TurkAussie Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, cyberfarang said: But not one of the by-standers bothered to even approach the woman to see if she was alright or try to comfort her in any way. They seemed more interested in the damage to the vehicle. Actually the cameraman and the motorbiketaxi guy go to her first and stay around her the whole time, I think they have both seen this sort of thing a lot and the reason they don’t touch her is because they know they might make it worse if they do! Anything can kill her at this point if the right first aid is not implemented just turning her over could paradise her for life or kill her in many ways depending on her injuries! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithpa Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 4 hours ago, Sydebolle said: Glad that the nurse made it; the Nissan driver should be locked up for quite some time, settle the hospital bill and a tidy amount and never allowed ever to sit behind a steering wheel. Even if the brakes "failed" I could not hear the horn or anything. Jeeezzzz! Could you see the car come to an abrupt halt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAZZDOG Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Not a difficult solution, especially in Thailand. In Florida this would be considered reckless driving, speeding or both. Reckless driving the ticket would be THB$ 57000 speeding 27,000. Insurance would go up 50% and you would get 3 points against your license. This might get more than a few morons to wake up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simtemple Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 https://m.facebook.com/search/photos/?q=bad driving in thailand&source=filter&isTrending=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Saw a accident a few weeks back where a motor bike rider was thrown some distance. But in this case it was brain failure, or lack of them, guy on very noisy bike, bombs up the road, two minutes later comes back the other way saw him come back down the road at speed, overtakes a car on the zigzag of a pedestrian crossing , totally on the wrong side of the road smashes into the front of an oncoming car, saw him flying though the air and was surprised he was still alive, not sure if he made it to hospital alive as apart from multiple fractures I would suspect serious internal injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sicky Posted February 5, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2018 We all hope that this lady recovers fully from her ordeal and we wish her well. Comments from many posters here, demonstrate their profound frustration at the dangers of Thailand's roads and almost a disbelief that it continues. I think we all know that the dangers are the result of a lack of adequate policing. Tonight, driving into Hua Hin from Bangkok, a police Honda Accord almost rear-ended me in the outside lane. I didn't have a space to pull over for him, at least not for a few seconds. So, he drove right up to my tail, inches away from me, just the same as any other bad driver, until I moved over for him. I wasn't driving slowly. Some months ago, turning off the main Rama 2 highway, another police car (liveried Honda Accord again), appeared to forget his turn-off, but at the final last moment shot around the front of a slow-moving heavy goods vehicle in the left lane, rather than braking in the middle lane and then exiting behind it, consequently almost driving at a 90 degree angle to exit from Rama 2 Road before the exit lane ended, and almost hitting the side of my car as I had turned-off behind the truck and was already on the filter lane exiting. This is the police! That's what they are prepared to do and prepared to set that kind of example to other motorists of how to drive on the road! I often see police ignoring tailgaters in the outside lane. They also ignore continual lane-changers and "weavers". Until this Thailand "police" promotes good driving practices and takes bad drivers and life-threateners to task, this country will always have dangerous roads. There isn't a driving ethic in Thailand; it doesn't exist. Furthermore the police do not promote good driving practices. Driving from Ratchburi to Bangkok last month, there'd been a vehicle breakdown in the right hand lane on a sharp bend to the right. Police were there and they'd erected emergency lighting and a couple of cones. However, they'd put the emergency lighting on the bend itself, rather than before the bend. Me and several others, didn't realise there'd been an accident, until the last moment, when all of us suddenly needed to change from outside lane to left lane. The pick-up truck in front of me jammed-on his brakes suddenly, presumably because he thought it was a police roadblock, rather than changing lanes gracefully, as he could have done, because there was nothing whatsoever in front of him. I almost rear-ended him. The two of us managed to get into the left lane. How we managed it, I honestly don't know. Perhaps the guy had some amulets swinging from his rear-view mirror. Thanks buddy. Police nearly caused an accident there for us -- I'm sure they cause countless others on Thailand's roads every day with their roadblocks at dangerous locations, and their disregard for safety. Good luck to all those others who drive on Thailand's dangerous roads every day and stay safe. All the best. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarangJon Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 I am shocked man. Thats what its called first aid in Thailand. Just do nothing and let her die. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 21 hours ago, jackdd said: Probably busy playing with her phone instead of looking at the street, as soon as she hit the motorbike the brakes seemed to work. Exactly, brakes worked fine when she got to them. Lie first, blame something else than oneself. Not paying attention. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BwindiBoy Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Complete ignorance all round. Brakes worked, car driver didn't. By-standers remained just that - they stood by and did next to <deleted> all. Pathetic! Lack of education, coupled with bad culture cause this, Person filming even captures the victim moving her leg, yet nobody reacts! Disgraceful! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catman20 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 13 hours ago, cookieqw said: They line up across all lanes as being at the front is safer, they’re off quick and only just get caught by the cars at the next lights, that to me is safe use of road really ? first tell that to the young lady and 2nd you need a refresher course in road safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catman20 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 14 hours ago, Russell17au said: So it is the bike riders fault because she is stopped in the left hand lane? Rubbish! SunsetT i know its not the bike riders fault at all but why was she not nearer the curb side ? in the uk we are taught slower moving traffic keeps to the left in Thailand all these bikes seem to want to be in the fast lanes all the time, i see them on the Sukumvite daily. being in the middle of the road is asking for trouble with these people behind the wheel. posted before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerojero Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Very dodgy brakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattd Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 12 hours ago, Russell17au said: But how do you educate the old drivers that are already set in their own ways. Agreed that teaching the older generation cannot be achieved, however, it is not an excuse, the Government NEEDS to start educating the young now, it has to start sometime and it will take years to filter through, road safety has been discussed on TVF thousands of times and I think we all agree that it is a combination of a lot of things, not just one or two, that WILL eventually makes the difference, unfortunately Thailand currently doesn't do anything except let people die needlessly in incidents. Enforcement is one of the ways, the trouble is that the open corruption and lack of enforcement has most of the population believing that they can do pretty much anything they want, they have a disdain for the law that is deeply ingrained and it is not just on the roads. This morning I watched the full length video of this incident (not calling it an accident, coz it was totally avoidable) and this video goes a long way to showing why the young lady nurse was positioned where she was, bearing in mind Thai culture and fear of uniforms, the car that was beside her had only just pulled up at the lights and as mentioned by others, the policeman was trying to cadge cash of the young boys. I have the link to this, not sure if it would be allowed to post on here, or fair on her Stepdad either. I was very glad to read from the lady's stepdad that she is not too seriously hurt and do hope that her recovery is quick and full. IMHO one of the probable reasons that the road death statistics are going up is the use of mobile devices whilst driving / riding, you will see the use of these constantly whilst traveling on the roads here, even on the motorway etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post davidst01 Posted February 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2018 On 2/5/2018 at 9:16 AM, Bobobirdiebuddy said: And the cop just sauntering over as if nothing to it. Does not even go to the victim. Typical. exactly. Just shocking. Scary attitude by incompetent authorities. I didnt see anyone quickly pick up the phone to the ambulance. Stupid people 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Skeptic7 Posted February 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2018 #1 Life is CHEAP in Thailand, cars are not. #2 Such a common everyday occurrence here that no reaction at all by the onlookers...especially the worthless "poleet". #3 Thais by far the worst and most negligent, careless drivers on Earth #4 Brakes work fine when actually applied #5 Mobile phone trumps everything else #6 Thai apathy to life...any/all life..is appalling 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell17au Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, catman20 said: i know its not the bike riders fault at all but why was she not nearer the curb side ? in the uk we are taught slower moving traffic keeps to the left in Thailand all these bikes seem to want to be in the fast lanes all the time, i see them on the Sukumvite daily. being in the middle of the road is asking for trouble with these people behind the wheel. posted before. We are not in the UK or any other country so the laws of the UK have nothing to do with the Laws here. For a starter she was in the left hand lane not the fast lane, which is all she had to be in, there is NO law that states she must be in the left side of the left lane. Have a good look at the video and if she had been in the left side of the left lane as you wanted her to be, she would be dead. By being where she was saved her life because if you have a look at the video where the car stops is along side 2 poles, now have a look at where the girl is laying, now remember she was in the right hand side of the left lane, now move her to the left of the car and she would have hit one of those poles or the curb. Edited February 6, 2018 by Russell17au 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell17au Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 6 hours ago, FarangJon said: I am shocked man. Thats what its called first aid in Thailand. Just do nothing and let her die. The best thing for them to do was not to touch her unless they were trained and qualified in first aid otherwise they could do more damage to her and even kill her. Same as in Australia not everybody has first aid training. Do you have your first aid certificate? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boedog Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 <deleted> Check see if the cars ok dont help the poor woman whos on the ground, thai mentality, lm a first responder in first aid duty of care you must help but not in this country, life is worth nothing 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stoker58 Posted February 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2018 To all the first aid experts here, the first thing you do with a casualty like this is talk to them to check if they're conscious. If they're not responsive you check for breathing and circulation, because if they're not breathing and/or don't have a pulse then any spinal injuries they might have just aren't going to matter. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell17au Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Boedog said: <deleted> Check see if the cars ok dont help the poor woman whos on the ground, thai mentality, lm a first responder in first aid duty of care you must help but not in this country, life is worth nothing It is alright to critisize but as a first responder you should know that if you are not first aid trained or qualified then it is better if you do not touch the injured person because you could make their condition worse. All members of any volunteer rescue associations are trained and certified first responders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell17au Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Stoker58 said: To all the first aid experts here, the first thing you do with a casualty like this is talk to them to check if they're conscious. If they're not responsive you check for breathing and circulation, because if they're not breathing and/or don't have a pulse then any spinal injuries they might have just aren't going to matter. The big problem is that the majority of the public do not know how to do this and they have a natural instinct to try and move the person. Many people do not know where to check for the pulse and how to check and many make the mistake of using their thumb. This was proved in a place called Gosford in NSW, Australia where a medical dummy was set up in a shopping centre by members of the local rescue squad and the Gosford hospital for the general public to show their knowledge of how to help a family member in a collapse in their home and two of the things was to take the pulse of the person and to check the persons breathing. The majority of general public did not know how to perform these two simple tasks, they did not know how to check a persons pulse and they did not know how to check if a person was breathing and this is in a country that is classed as a first world country. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren84310 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Applied the brakes but didn't work..... What a load of B******t!!!...... hope the poor woman makes a full recovery and learns not to wait in such a precarious position on the road in future, anywhere normal ok, but here's not normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dinooz57 Posted February 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2018 Praews condition has improved remarkably and can now remember everything, her life her family etc. Truly a miracle, it is amazing how much the human body can endure, I guess youth and being relaxed at the time of impact all helps, it just wasn't her time to go, maybe because Thailand needs more people like herself, ironically she spends her working life caring for the sick, injured and infirmed but in her time of need was left alone, I understand the ramifications of moving an injured person but just to have another human sit beside you and assure you everything will be ok and help is on its way or even to lay a blanket or jacket on her and at least show some compassion. 9 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Psimbo Posted February 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2018 Poor lady does everything right, (stopped at a red, helmet on) taken out by an ***-**** who clearly wasn't watching the road ahead. A B500 fine and all back to normal. Really annoys me as someone who's on the road everyday and sees these idiots causing mayhem. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattd Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 25 minutes ago, dinooz57 said: I understand the ramifications of moving an injured person but just to have another human sit beside you and assure you everything will be ok and help is on its way or even to lay a blanket or jacket on her and at least show some compassion. First of all, I am sincerely glad that she is making a good recovery. I totally agree with your comment above, I must admit that some comments in that regard on here are amazing, from the videos that I have seen, nobody appeared to show her any compassion whatsoever and it was absolutely nothing to do with them worried about moving her, half of them wouldn't have a clue about that part. I find that difficult to understand, as a human being. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidst01 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Dumbo policeman.... takes so long to go down to the person. Should be stripped of his uniform. Useless idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell17au Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Thank you for the update on your step-daughter and it is great to see her improving. As much as I agree with this part of your post about no one comforting her at the scene. "I understand the ramifications of moving an injured person but just to have another human sit beside you and assure you everything will be ok and help is on its way or even to lay a blanket or jacket on her and at least show some compassion." This is something that is quite common, we call it the "shock syndrome" because you would be surprised at how many accidents that I attended where the people just stood around and did nothing in the way of comforting the injured and that was in Australia, they seem to be in a world of disbelief and they just cannot do anything. Keep the chin up mate, she will be fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinooz57 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 7 minutes ago, Russell17au said: Thank you for the update on your step-daughter and it is great to see her improving. As much as I agree with this part of your post about no one comforting her at the scene. "I understand the ramifications of moving an injured person but just to have another human sit beside you and assure you everything will be ok and help is on its way or even to lay a blanket or jacket on her and at least show some compassion." This is something that is quite common, we call it the "shock syndrome" because you would be surprised at how many accidents that I attended where the people just stood around and did nothing in the way of comforting the injured and that was in Australia, they seem to be in a world of disbelief and they just cannot do anything. Keep the chin up mate, she will be fine Thanks mate, you have no idea how relieved myself and family are that Praew can continue her very productive life, very proud of her attitude, ambition and achievements and she would have been not only a loss to us, but a loss to Thai society. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell17au Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, dinooz57 said: Thanks mate, you have no idea how relieved myself and family are that Praew can continue her very productive life, very proud of her attitude, ambition and achievements and she would have been not only a loss to us, but a loss to Thai society. Mate, anything I can do just PM me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 19 hours ago, Russell17au said: I would say that they reason that you do not see them going after speeding motorist is because they do not have anything that will catch the motorist with, they cannot catch anyone without the right equipment. IMHO the video is all that is needed in this instance to determine the speed of the car before the collision. Pretty clear the driver would have run the red light if the scooter had not been there. The speed cameras I see on the Chiang Mai - Chiang Rai road don't seem to do anything. There used to be four, now there is only two - presumably the others are dead for lack of maintenance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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