JAS21 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 We have MY15 ... the seal has gone again ... now have done 25K Kms ... previously replaced at about 15K Kms. Apparently only a small proportion of 3.2Ltr engines have this fault ... also applies to BT50. Confirmed today that at the first change the revised torque settings were used. Am told that Ford don't fit Grade 'A' seals and the dealer is not allowed to ... must use the Ford Part. It is a seven hour job to change and a special Ford Tool is required apparently. Anyone else has this seal fail? ... you will know if yours has failed by looking on your drive or looking/feeling in the area below the seal ... fortunate to have the extra two years warranty and even more fortunate to not live in Phuket. Think that I will contact Ford Customer Service but guess am wasting my time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 I reckon there will be an after market fix as it seems to be a common fault.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 6 hours ago, JAS21 said: Think that I will contact Ford Customer Service but guess am wasting my time. Don't think, do it and show it all over Media outlets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAS21 Posted February 10, 2018 Author Share Posted February 10, 2018 14 minutes ago, Kwasaki said: Don't think, do it and show it all over Media outlets. NanLaew has just told me that someone in Australia has possibly found a fix ... hope to get the info 'Lessons in Life' have taught me to 'don't burn your bridges' ... well not initially anyway ... and our Ford dealership is one of the best IF not the best and it has an english speaking Product Specialist ....... but thanks for the suggestion ....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 https://ford.oemdtc.com/3339/engine-oil-leak-3-2l-duratorq-tdci-2015-2018-ford-transit 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAS21 Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share Posted February 11, 2018 1 hour ago, transam said: https://ford.oemdtc.com/3339/engine-oil-leak-3-2l-duratorq-tdci-2015-2018-ford-transit Thanks TA ... I will talk to the dealership Product Specialist next week about thst update ... Service this morning Ford Battery now 27 months use ... still going strong according to their test device... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 28 minutes ago, JAS21 said: Thanks TA ... I will talk to the dealership Product Specialist next week about thst update ... Service this morning Ford Battery now 27 months use ... still going strong according to their test device... I ended up getting 40 months out of a cheap lead acid by lifting the hood, the others lasted 24 months... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredob43 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 46 minutes ago, transam said: I ended up getting 40 months out of a cheap lead acid by lifting the hood, the others lasted 24 months... You have been lucky I have never got more that 15 months on any of my Toyo batteries and that's on 3 new lumps. New Toyo is now coming up to 11 months old, so expecting a dud one any time soon. And yes I do lift the hood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAS21 Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share Posted February 11, 2018 51 minutes ago, transam said: I ended up getting 40 months out of a cheap lead acid by lifting the hood, the others lasted 24 months... Gee Trans ... please don't start that topic again ... yes I always lift the hood whenever possible and every time I get home ...mine usually do 3 years + 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAS21 Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share Posted February 11, 2018 1 minute ago, fredob43 said: You have been lucky I have never got more that 15 months on any of my Toyo batteries and that's on 3 new lumps. New Toyo is now coming up to 11 months old, so expecting a dud one any time soon. And yes I do lift the hood. The Fortuner engine bay runs extremely hot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredob43 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Just now, JAS21 said: The Fortuner engine bay runs extremely hot Two Fortuners one Vigo. All batteries went their way rapidly after the first year. Will post when this one goes T/Ts up. Am surprised that this one has lasted so long as the Lump is auto electric everything. So battery gets a real bashing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAS21 Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share Posted February 11, 2018 1 hour ago, fredob43 said: Two Fortuners one Vigo. All batteries went their way rapidly after the first year. Will post when this one goes T/Ts up. Am surprised that this one has lasted so long as the Lump is auto electric everything. So battery gets a real bashing. I have a CTEK and use it ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 On 2/10/2018 at 6:27 PM, Kwasaki said: Don't think, do it and show it all over Media outlets. What is he going to do, complain about something that is covered, and being replaced, under warranty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 (edited) On 2/11/2018 at 11:45 AM, transam said: I ended up getting 40 months out of a cheap lead acid by lifting the hood, the others lasted 24 months... On 2/11/2018 at 12:37 PM, fredob43 said: You have been lucky I have never got more that 15 months on any of my Toyo batteries and that's on 3 new lumps. New Toyo is now coming up to 11 months old, so expecting a dud one any time soon. And yes I do lift the hood. On 2/11/2018 at 12:38 PM, JAS21 said: Gee Trans ... please don't start that topic again ... yes I always lift the hood whenever possible and every time I get home ...mine usually do 3 years + Lifting the bonnet is even more effective apparently. Seriously, though, can that really have any beneficial effect when at that stage the engine is cooling down as it's turned off and the heat in that area is dissipating. 99% of the time the battery is cooking under the closed bonnet and they are obviously designed to be able to cope with the heat there. Do you lift the bonnet when you're stuck in traffic? Edited February 12, 2018 by Just Weird 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Just now, Just Weird said: Lifting the bonnet is even more effective apparently. Seriously, though, can that really have any beneficial effect when 99% of the time the battery is cooking under the closed bonnet and they are obviously designed to be able to cope with the heat there? Do you lift the bonnet when you're stuck in traffic? When the engine is running the fan is shifting hot air. When the car is in motion air is shifted out of the engine bay...When you park up the under hood temp increases before it cools down... This is really easy stuff to understand chap... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 1 minute ago, transam said: When the engine is running the fan is shifting hot air. When the car is in motion air is shifted out of the engine bay...When you park up the under hood temp increases before it cools down... This is really easy stuff to understand chap... I was asking a serious question, no need to be condescending. How long is the temperature rising for...long enough for opening the bonnet to have any significant effect on the longevity of the battery? If that was really the case wouldn't car and battery manufacturers suggest that everyone does that when parking their car? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 19 minutes ago, Just Weird said: I was asking a serious question, no need to be condescending. How long is the temperature rising for...long enough for opening the bonnet to have any significant effect on the longevity of the battery? If that was really the case wouldn't car and battery manufacturers suggest that everyone does that when parking their car? Manufacturers don't give a toss about battery longevity, they care about speed of factory assembly and costs, that's why the battery is usually under the hood..Telling granny to lift the hood on parking isn't really a good selling point, is it chap... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAS21 Posted February 12, 2018 Author Share Posted February 12, 2018 1 hour ago, transam said: Manufacturers don't give a toss about battery longevity, they care about speed of factory assembly and costs, that's why the battery is usually under the hood..Telling granny to lift the hood on parking isn't really a good selling point, is it chap... Thought we agreed to ignor ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 1 hour ago, transam said: Manufacturers don't give a toss about battery longevity, they care about speed of factory assembly and costs, that's why the battery is usually under the hood..Telling granny to lift the hood on parking isn't really a good selling point, is it chap... Neither is it necessary. Chap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Just Weird said: Neither is it necessary. Chap. I post here my test findings for others to read, as it seems you have never tried my test I don't see as you can comment.. Now as you regard yourself as an expert on heat stuff, tell me, does a turbo inter-cooler work if a ride is stationary...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 20 minutes ago, transam said: I post here my test findings for others to read, as it seems you have never tried my test I don't see as you can comment.. Now as you regard yourself as an expert on heat stuff, tell me, does a turbo inter-cooler work if a ride is stationary...? It is not the contents of your posti9ng but the condescending tone that is irritating. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 1 minute ago, stevenl said: It is not the contents of your posti9ng but the condescending tone that is irritating. You mean..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAS21 Posted February 12, 2018 Author Share Posted February 12, 2018 1 hour ago, stevenl said: It is not the contents of your posti9ng but the condescending tone that is irritating. That is a rather harsh comment and not justified I think BUT recently I have noticed some weied and irritating comments from others ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 19 hours ago, transam said: You mean..... I mean comments like " This is really easy stuff to understand chap... ", " Telling granny to lift the hood on parking isn't really a good selling point, is it chap... " and "Now as you regard yourself as an expert on heat stuff, tell me, does a turbo inter-cooler work if a ride is stationary...?" can be seen as and are also IMO condescending. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vogie Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 17 hours ago, JAS21 said: That is a rather harsh comment and not justified I think BUT recently I have noticed some weied and irritating comments from others ... I agree, it is a harsh comment, Transam is very knowledgeable and tries very hard to share his knowledge with others. But some members don't have a clue, but for some reason feels its ok to offer advice when they haven't a clue and as my dear old granny used to say 'some people on here would make a parson swear. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAS21 Posted February 13, 2018 Author Share Posted February 13, 2018 (edited) 55 minutes ago, vogie said: I agree, it is a harsh comment, Transam is very knowledgeable and tries very hard to share his knowledge with others. But some members don't have a clue, but for some reason feels its ok to offer advice when they haven't a clue and as my dear old granny used to say 'some people on here would make a parson swear. Wow ... talk about hitting the nail on the head ... I would have liked to have seen him offered a 'mods' job but guess he upset too many ducks in the past ... Edited February 13, 2018 by JAS21 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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