Any good 2 stroke specialist in Pattaya?

[Richyba]

Hi all new to the forum, first post. I know my bike isn't going to be to everyone's taste but I have a well loved Honda Phantom 2 stroke (the early Ta150 model) I originally hired it about 8 years ago and subsequently bought it from the hire lady I loved it so much. The thing is much like myself it ain't getting any younger and these are quite a trick little engine (practically the same as an NSR 150) so it would be great to find an enthusiastic 2 stroke specialist to get the best out of it. I know they'll be hyper bike riders laugh and tell me to bin the old thing but it's so comfortable and fun that I don't want to, we are just back an 800km spin to Koh Chang and the Chanthaburi coast and the old thing never missed a beat. While I'm on the subject if anyone knows where there is another for parts I would like to buy it even if it hasn't a book, parts are getting scarce now. By the way I'm not one of these phantom owners that fancies themselves as easy rider, I have a Kawasaki W650 at home in Ireland, here's a pic of my beast to prove there's no tassels to be found ?  

[papa al]

papa knows an old guy on the dark side with one.

It's in pretty nice shape.

His health is going down and he'd probably sell.

 

PM me your ph#.

[Agusts]

Although this ad below does not say 150cc , 2 stroke, you can see the radiator from the photos.

 

I bet he takes any offers now, he has been trying to sell it for a while and brought the price down:

 

https://bangkok.craigslist.co.th/mcy/d/honda-phantom-great-bike/6442285367.html

 

https://bangkok.craigslist.co.th/mcy/d/honda-phantom-must-see/6477869299.html

 

https://bangkok.craigslist.co.th/mcy/d/honda-phantom-must-see/6477869299.html

 

It's funny he fails to mention what the bike spec is, think the buyer will be that stupid or blind, amazing, people advertising like that... !!!?

[Richyba]

5 hours ago, Agusts said:

Although this ad below does not say 150cc , 2 stroke, you can see the radiator from the photos.

 

I bet he takes any offers now, he has been trying to sell it for a while and brought the price down:

 

https://bangkok.craigslist.co.th/mcy/d/honda-phantom-great-bike/6442285367.html

 

https://bangkok.craigslist.co.th/mcy/d/honda-phantom-must-see/6477869299.html

 

https://bangkok.craigslist.co.th/mcy/d/honda-phantom-must-see/6477869299.html

 

It's funny he fails to mention what the bike spec is, think the buyer will be that stupid or blind, amazing, people advertising like that... !!!?

Thanks for that, that looks mint probably too good for parts in fact possibly better than mine but mine has sentimental value ? 

[VocalNeal]

Great bike!

Well the engine is essentially the same as an NSR 150R(R) or 150SP.  OK I'm sure the porting is different but... 

Exact what did you have in mind for the motor? It will be hard to find a different pipe for it. R, RR or SP might have a different size carb? 

If you go too far you'll lose what little bottom end you have. 

You can buy a high compression head for it. That might help. Cleaning out the exhaust will help. 

How much do you think you will need to spend? 

Go to Bira race track on a Monday morning. Find the retired German guy working on bikes and wearing no shirt. Ask him if he knows a good 2-stroke mechanic. 

If all you want is s new set of rings or a new barrel and piston Honda should be able to do that.

 

Edited February 28, 2018 by VocalNeal

[papa al]

2 hours ago, VocalNeal said:

Great bike!

Well the engine is essentially the same as an NSR 150R(R) or 150SP.  OK I'm sure the porting is different but... 

Exact what did you have in mind for the motor? It will be hard to find a different pipe for it. R, RR or SP might have a different size carb? 

If you go too far you'll lose what little bottom end you have. 

You can buy a high compression head for it. That might help. Cleaning out the exhaust will help. 

How much do you think you will need to spend? 

Go to Bira race track on a Monday morning. Find the retired German guy working on bikes and wearing no shirt. Ask him if he knows a good 2-stroke mechanic. 

If all you want is s new set of rings or a new barrel and piston Honda should be able to do that.

 

Did OP indicate that he wanted to modify the bike?

[Richyba]

15 hours ago, Agusts said:

Although this ad below does not say 150cc , 2 stroke, you can see the radiator from the photos.

 

I bet he takes any offers now, he has been trying to sell it for a while and brought the price down:

 

https://bangkok.craigslist.co.th/mcy/d/honda-phantom-great-bike/6442285367.html

 

https://bangkok.craigslist.co.th/mcy/d/honda-phantom-must-see/6477869299.html

 

https://bangkok.craigslist.co.th/mcy/d/honda-phantom-must-see/6477869299.html

 

It's funny he fails to mention what the bike spec is, think the buyer will be that stupid or blind, amazing, people advertising like that... !!!?

 

2 minutes ago, papa al said:

Did OP indicate that he wanted to modify the bike?

I would consider a little mod but I don't really want to loose what torque it has for massive power at 10000rpm, it just needs a bit of fettling I suspect possibly a piston and barrel and the RC servo sorted which seems not to be working, it's still rideable but not as good top end so someone who knows and loves these amazing little engines would be the answer, I can weild a spanner but big diesels are my thing and besides it's too hot, thanks for all the help so far, it's really appreciated ? 

[canthai55]

RC servo will help low end torque quite a bit.

A new carb can do wonders too - yours most probably the stocker, and carbs do wear out.

Does it have one throttle cable or 2 - a pull open pull closed setup ?

Can not go wrong with a new Mikuni - I put on all my bikes. Easy to set up, parts everywhere.

The exhaust pipe is most probably full of carbon. May help to remove it.

Full synthetic 2 stroke oil will cut down on carbon buildup a lot.

[Richyba]

Thanks for that, yep it's the original carb and it's a single cable pull type, I think there is oil lines going to the carb to, so I guess it would be a like for like replacement, I'm sure the exhaust will be full of carbon, I must look into synthetic oil for it, as an aside I once owned a Norton Commando and appalled the purists by binning the twin carbs and fitting a single Mikuni, it idled lovely and pulled like a train, the rest of it was still crap though! Thanks for your suggestions all food for thought, people think I'm mad but I love keeping old stuff going and its perfect for me when I'm here. 

Edited February 28, 2018 by Richyba

[thaiguzzi]

46 minutes ago, Richyba said:

Thanks for that, yep it's the original carb and it's a single cable pull type, I think there is oil lines going to the carb to, so I guess it would be a like for like replacement, I'm sure the exhaust will be full of carbon, I must look into synthetic oil for it, as an aside I once owned a Norton Commando and appalled the purists by binning the twin carbs and fitting a single Mikuni, it idled lovely and pulled like a train, the rest of it was still crap though! Thanks for your suggestions all food for thought, people think I'm mad but I love keeping old stuff going and its perfect for me when I'm here. 

One of the best, if not the best, Commando mod....

The best Brit twins for the street are single carb versions of Enfield, BSA, Norton, and Triumph...

Just that, particularly Triumph, with the splayed head, the twin carbs look great parked up....

[Agusts]

If you can read Thai (or use Google Translate) here is another two Phantom 150cc cheap options (if not expired old ads):

 

http://www.mocycdd.com/mocycdetail/3203-Phantom-150cc-18000

 

http://www.salemocyc.com/มอเตอร์ไซค์มือสอง-ยี่/honda-phantom-150-ccเดิมๆสภาพดีสีสวย-2

 

Watch for scams, never send money until you seen the goods.....

 

Edited February 28, 2018 by Agusts

[Richyba]

Thanks for the help guys, unfortunately I have to head back home tomorrow night but I will keep looking back here and keep a look out for that elusive Phantom Ta150 lying somewhere, preferably without a book or damaged but complete and also any more suggestions for a good 2 stroke specialist would be appreciated, thanks again ? 

[kaorop]

Im a 2 stroke person..Currently have 5 and recently sold 4 others including 2 NSR150SPs..

 

A Thai mate picked up one of those phantoms in vgc for 5k.

I didnt know they had similar mtrs to the nsr, but for sure they tuned it for more tractible power.

 

Good luck with the hunt, i dont think thais rate that model so they should be cheap..

[Richyba]

Thanks for that hopefully I'll find one, I thought I had the other day there is a really rough one covered in dust at the back of the dealer in Pattaya Thai, it was there last year this time and they wanted 17k then, after much persuasion this year they told me they would sell it, the price? 20k of course and no offer considered ? I suppose the face the tyres are now perished and flat plus the thick layer of dust and debris has added 3k, I've been in the motor trade all my life but these people amaze me, keep an eye out folks a 5k one would be lovely ?