Crossy Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Jake brakes, exhaust brakes, electric retarders are unknown here because they cost money (often quite a lot of money). Simple low-gear engine braking is also unheard of, it does not cost anything other than training. Sadly changing the habit of a lifetime (riding the brakes down hill) is incredibly difficult (in the West as well as in Thailand). That said, let's train new drivers in how to descend hills safely, eventually all drivers will know how. I know, I'm still dreaming 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post a977 Posted April 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, Crossy said: Jake brakes, exhaust brakes, electric retarders are unknown here because they cost money (often quite a lot of money). Simple low-gear engine braking is also unheard of, it does not cost anything other than training. Sadly changing the habit of a lifetime (riding the brakes down hill) is incredibly difficult (in the West as well as in Thailand). That said, let's train new drivers in how to descend hills safely, eventually all drivers will know how. I know, I'm still dreaming Most European truck makers supply retarder brakes as standard equipment, it's just Thais don't know what to do with extra lever, they already having trouble with indicator lever. too many levers how can I read facebook????????? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thongkorn Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 42 minutes ago, Crossy said: Jake brakes, exhaust brakes, electric retarders are unknown here because they cost money (often quite a lot of money). Simple low-gear engine braking is also unheard of, it does not cost anything other than training. Sadly changing the habit of a lifetime (riding the brakes down hill) is incredibly difficult (in the West as well as in Thailand). That said, let's train new drivers in how to descend hills safely, eventually all drivers will know how. I know, I'm still dreaming Speed retarder are fitted standard on 99% of trucks no extra cost . Just no training how to use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, Thongkorn said: Speed retarder are fitted standard on 99% of trucks no extra cost . Just no training how to use them. If this is actually the case for locally manufactured vehicles, there's even less of an excuse. Unfortunately I don't read Thai too well and the page won't translate with Google. http://www.hinothailand.com/page_hino_car.php?cid=365&a=6&lang=eng Any mention of retarders and the like (I do see ABS) ? EDIT This page suggests it's true and I stand corrected. http://www.hinothailand.com/page_hino_car.php?cid=363&a=4 How many drivers know what the "RET" switch does I wonder? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pieeyed Posted April 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2018 Brake failure my ass. He was driving to fast and when confronted with the road going to one lane due to road construction he could not slow down fast enough so he headed for the barrier. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kannot Posted April 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2018 19 minutes ago, Thongkorn said: Speed retarder are fitted standard on 99% of trucks no extra cost . Just no training how to use them. cant help the" Driver retarder" though 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakename Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 That guy was sure a hero! Wow, it doesnt take much to be a hero on the roads here! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somchai Logic Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 14 hours ago, kannot said: Can u imagine this in Thailand 1 the kid would be dead 2 he would probably have hit the filming driver also 3 every car behind would have been wrecked also Yet here no cars wrecked and the brakes on that truck were incredible. Every part of this video (except the kids) shows some kind of intelligent reaction. Something you will NEVER see here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Ive found the lever which all Thai lorry drivers need fitted and should use regularly..suggest every 3 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kwonitoy Posted April 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2018 I once rode in a pipe truck north hauling 42" sections of pipe north of Kanchanaburi ONE time (due to my pickup breaking down) The driver treated the brake pedal just like you hear them using the accelerator. Full on throttle....coast....full on throttle....coast Comes to a long downhill section full on brake....coast....too fast....full on brake.... coast... no motor engagement at all By the time we got to yard I was soaked in sweat and my hands hurt from grabbing the dash and door, walking back by trailer I could feel the heat from the tractor duals and trailer duals like a bonfire. The amount of trucks lost on the mountain road going up to Ban E Tong on the Burma border was unbelievable, 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, Somchai Logic said: Every part of this video (except the kids) shows some kind of intelligent reaction. Something you will NEVER see here Indeed, and the truck driver was likely off the gas (and possibly covering the brake) having seen the bus dropping off kids, he reacted amazingly quickly. Also note the car in front of the truck had moved as far to his right as he could. "Anticipation" sadly not a word in many Thai driver's dictionaries 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatboy Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 can you imagine one of these so called truck drivers behind the wheel of the NEW EXPRESS TRAIN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Media1 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 22 hours ago, Maverell said: Why is it so many vehicle in Thailand have 'brake difficulties or failure' ? 55555555 lack of service or poor driving. Pick one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thongkorn Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 9 hours ago, kwonitoy said: I once rode in a pipe truck north hauling 42" sections of pipe north of Kanchanaburi ONE time (due to my pickup breaking down) The driver treated the brake pedal just like you hear them using the accelerator. Full on throttle....coast....full on throttle....coast Comes to a long downhill section full on brake....coast....too fast....full on brake.... coast... no motor engagement at all By the time we got to yard I was soaked in sweat and my hands hurt from grabbing the dash and door, walking back by trailer I could feel the heat from the tractor duals and trailer duals like a bonfire. The amount of trucks lost on the mountain road going up to Ban E Tong on the Burma border was unbelievable, Did you get your Licence in Thailand you never coast any vehicle because you are not in control of the vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 On 12/04/2018 at 5:13 AM, Sir Dude said: Good driving skills...pfft! Blind luck that it didn't end in a horror show more like. Good driving skills would be to check the breaks before setting out... and see his truck got regular maintenance from qualified truck engineers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwonitoy Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Thongkorn said: Did you get your Licence in Thailand you never coast any vehicle because you are not in control of the vehicle. I was the passenger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingle 60 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Thais have no idea what low gears i.e. 1 and 2 on automatics are for, just like they have no idea what mirrors and indicators are for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nong38 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Are brake failure and brain failure connected in some mysterious way both seem to be part of the Thai psyche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assayer Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 On 4/12/2018 at 11:48 AM, ratcatcher said: I wonder if tractor units are fitted with engines using Jake brake systems in Thailand. I agree with your comment, I have never heard the familiar sound of a Jake brake in use on any downhill sections of Thai highways. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkfjCJClWVA I think I remember reading that engine brakes are not allowed in Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 9 hours ago, assayer said: I think I remember reading that engine brakes are not allowed in Thailand Possibly "Jake" brakes are not, they can be hideously noisy on a badly designed (read every Thai truck) exhaust system, but my earlier link to the Hino website suggests there is some sort of engine retarder fitted to their big (that's a UK big) tractor units. This could be a simple exhaust brake (a butterfly in the exhaust system, still rather noisy) or a hydraulic or electric retarder, both are silent in operation but costly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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