20 hours ago, leeneeds said:

For years it has been obvious that the police and government can not come to a consensus 

on how to manage the mind numbing statistics and deaths, if external help would not be taken on board, then a royal decree may be the only way to get some common sense into drivers brains.                                                                                                            

Why would a royal decree be any more effective than an Art.44 decree or a "crackdown".  These are all just words, but unless the police actually do their job of enforcing siad decrees etc. nothing will change. The RTP have done jackshit for the past 80 years so why are they suddenly going to start in 2018?

These statistics are useless during the holidays because the number of deaths is generally the same over the whole year either it is holiday or not.

I agree 100% with BORZANY  the way they drive is this country

13 hours ago, Wake Up said:

Seems like the TVF criticism has really helped the last 10 years. Some of you take great pleasure in criticism and providing the perfect easy advice on what others should do. If you really cared you would actually do something productive and helpful.  But alas the easiest thing to do that requires no effort is to preach, bitch, moan and provide misinformation. Some of you are actually good at these nonproductive no effort activities. 

One of the expats here (not me thank you) for outsider PM would be a good start...couldn't do any worse! Ha!

On 4/14/2018 at 2:15 PM, darksidedog said:

This is just getting worse by the day. I had hoped after just 39 on day one, this year might finally be the turning point, but obviously any message about safe and responsible driving has not registered at all out there. It is truly tragic that this happens every year with no end in sight.

"Messages" about safety and responsibility not same your country Mr. You not understand Thai people. 

23 hours ago, thailandman123 said:

life is cheap. death destiny. can come back as a lizard. 

Died during songkran, come back as a water lizard. 

On 4/14/2018 at 1:03 PM, Jack Mountain said:

Still below average compared to the 26000 a year they promise all the time.

Last year was 22,000, or 60 a day.

 

Yesterday, after 2 "dangerous days" we were below the daily average. Now we're slightly ahead. Let's see how deadly the next 4 days are...

Absolutely correct    Even THAI people cannot understand THAI

 

Never do anything to-day if you can put it off until tomorrow 

 

Same same driver education and Traffic Laws enforcement

45 minutes ago, Somchai Logic said:

"Messages" about safety and responsibility not same your country Mr. You not understand Thai people. 

Stupid stupidity is difficult if not impossible to understand, and yes - we don't understand - why - because we are farang and farang don't know anything. 

5 hours ago, SABloke said:

The RTP have done jackshit for the past 80 years so why are they suddenly going to start in 2018?

 

One day, they're going to figure out how much revenue they can rake in with fines if they actually enforce traffic rules.  There are entire government entities back home that fund most of their their operations on traffic tickets.  And wait until insurance companies snap to the fact that they can charge exorbitant premiums when someone has a lot of points on their DL.  If only Thailand had a points system...

 

But I'm afraid that's one of those "be careful what you wish for" thingies.  My vision is drivers forced -by economics- to drive better.  But somehow, it'd end up being the worst of both worlds.

 

22 hours ago, ncc1701d said:

Is there a web site showing where each accident has been?

Go to Google Maps, Thailand. Choose Satellite, Street View for any street road or highway. 

Edited April 15, 20188 yr by MaxYakov

7 minutes ago, MaxYakov said:

Go to Google Maps, Thailand. Choose Street View for any street road or highway. 

 

But be patient.  There's a few spots where you'll have to wait an hour or 2.

 

don,t worry it will be over soon and they can do the same for the end of the year  party.

Really now, was anyone really serious about reducing the number of deaths and accidents in the worst country for driver's in the real World.....<deleted>.....?????

On 4/14/2018 at 7:18 PM, essox essox said:

does it really matter ???

Er, yes, it matters. If there are areas that are particularly prone to fatal car accidents, it would be nice to know where to avoid. it would also help government know where to focus on improving road safety. Most western countries have detailed information.

Edited April 16, 20188 yr by ncc1701d

I quite like all this cultural imperialism and concern/fear. It keeps all the farangs who drive like farangs off the road and therefore reduces potential accidents because they don't drive like Thais. 

Regardless of how well you planned for old age . No one can live forever!

It would be nice if this biennial ghoul-fest was accompanied by some intelligent conversation.

 

Instead it just becomes a group of expats self-compensating by deriding the entire Thai nation as "bad drivers"

3 minutes ago, Airbagwill said:

It would be nice if this biennial ghoul-fest was accompanied by some intelligent conversation.

 

Instead it just becomes a group of expats self-compensating by deriding the entire Thai nation as "bad drivers"

Well they are....

I cant see where they get the dates from for the holiday period. Last year it was over, went North to Chang Mai and got soaked again. Its a Thai Fest, their break, and im sick of the  Control Freak Whingers here too.

By the way,most of these accidents over the period are Microphone Fuzznut heads on Mo Cycles, the same lot who boost the figure all year round.Get over it.!

On 4/14/2018 at 4:01 PM, buffallobill said:

My wife drove the pick up to the market this morning,  with 5 kids and 2 adults in the back of our pick up,  non of them sat in the cab,  and the 2 adults sat on plastic chairs,   as the floor was wet,  I told the Mrs how dangerous it would be if she had an emergency stop,  she just said  "farang think too much" 

"and thai don't think"  would have been my response.

On 4/15/2018 at 10:24 AM, SABloke said:

Why would a royal decree be any more effective than an Art.44 decree or a "crackdown".  These are all just words, but unless the police actually do their job of enforcing siad decrees etc. nothing will change. The RTP have done jackshit for the past 80 years so why are they suddenly going to start in 2018?

It's not a job theyin are trained to do...they are a paramilitaryly trained force.

For those Thai Driving Critics, spend an hour watching Dash Cams on You Tube from Europe ,Ozz, n USA. So much for Licences mean much. Its time behind the Wheel that matters.

http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/songkran-holidays-now-claim-323-deaths-3140-injuries-five-days/

 

A total of 323 Songkran celebrants were killed and 3,140 others were injured in the past five days of the Songkran festival.

23 minutes ago, HAKAPALITA said:

For those Thai Driving Critics, spend an hour watching Dash Cams on You Tube from Europe ,Ozz, n USA. So much for Licences mean much. Its time behind the Wheel that matters.

Whilst I agree the licences mean very little especially after the tests an average aged expat took, but it would appear that after years behind the wheel many have learned absolutely nothing.

Like flat-earthers, they see, but have no idea what they are looking at.

Is there nobody in the proper position to take up matters at hand ?

 

How many more thousands of people need to get killed in Thai Roads for somebody to take honest, efficient steps that are not all that difficult to assess, establish and to enforce honestly !!??!

 

Very Sad.

A generalization slur has been removed also some off topic bickering and replies

Excuse my ignorance I have only resided here for 8 years,prior to that was a successful importer of Thai products for 29 Years

 

My other occupation was as a lecturer at Institute of Technology specialising in matters of training  and safety of all classes of drivers and including those on the water with power boats.

 

Complacency is a large part of Thai Culture.Full Stop

 

At least I know on which side my bread is buttered  ttl

 

"Complacency is a large part of Thai Culture.Full Stop"

it is a,symptom common amongst expats that they believe longevity in Thailand or contact with some Thai people automatically makes them an authority on the place and it's populace and display this with sweeping generalisations that when examined are totally meaningless.

I particularly contest the way some people bandy about the word "culture" as if it has some magical power to justify any theory they may come up with.

The problem is they may be skilled in their job but they simply dont have the skills to formulate a coherent opinion on the reasons/causes of Thailand's dreadful road safety record....or their record on many other issues come to that. Failing this they try to sum up a highly complex situation with banal generalisations about Thai people.

2 hours ago, Airbagwill said:

"Complacency is a large part of Thai Culture.Full Stop"

it is a,symptom common amongst expats that they believe longevity in Thailand or contact with some Thai people automatically makes them an authority on the place and it's populace and display this with sweeping generalisations that when examined are totally meaningless.

I particularly contest the way some people bandy about the word "culture" as if it has some magical power to justify any theory they may come up with.

The problem is they may be skilled in their job but they simply dont have the skills to formulate a coherent opinion on the reasons/causes of Thailand's dreadful road safety record....or their record on many other issues come to that. Failing this they try to sum up a highly complex situation with banal generalisations about Thai people.

Well considering that so often I have been told I do not understand Thais and that as a Farang how could I possibly understand or even tell them that they are wrong, even when they know they are. Then I WILL put it down to their culture , their attitude and the way they have been brought up. It encompasses Thainess at its best, and if you actually talk to many educated Thais what is wrong, they will admit privately it is Thainess or their attitude or culture. Not one will publically state it though. 

The nation as a whole do not like being told their wrong and look at the problems any one has telling off a Thai , even the Ambulance man who filmed a bad car , is supposedly being prosecuted for publishing the event and the patient died !! Which part of Thai culture is that then. It is not a banal generalisation it is a fact. Thais generally do not care about anyone else above themselves, proven time and time again !!!!!