transam Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 53 minutes ago, Sheryl said: You can see a doctor without your passport. If you have one, show them a photocopy, or a dirver's license, otherwise just explain that your passport is at immigration. Don't make a host of assumptions about what the doctor will say/do and use that as an excuse not to go. It is not necessarily the case that you need an MRI. My Professor consultant in the UK over the years did MRI's on my shoulder and knee to see what was going on. The photos made everything clear ans stuff was sorted. I also had one done on my head, he said there is sod all we can do about that.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 On 4/21/2018 at 6:42 PM, poanoi said: i will, if and when i win lottery If it's the nerves in the back causing most of the pain , I suggest you buy some vitamin B6 and B12 tablets. You can buy them cheap at your local pharmacy . A vitamin B cure can do wonders to your back pain , I had a problem with L2 (2nd Lumbar Vertebra) in my back , a doctor told me I should do a pinhole surgery to remove a fragment that caused nerve damage. Instead I decided to wait and follow a strict diet and a strong dosage of vitamin B6 and 12. Within 6 months my pain had gone. It was really a miracle. But your case can be completely different so first you should talk to a specialist . But it doesn't hurt to try it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poanoi Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 5 hours ago, Sheryl said: You can see a doctor without your passport. If you have one, show them a photocopy, or a dirver's license, otherwise just explain that your passport is at immigration. Don't make a host of assumptions about what the doctor will say/do and use that as an excuse not to go. It is not necessarily the case that you need an MRI. if i go, i hope i can insist on mri, cause i already did xray and doctors couldnt do a thing to help beside offer me paracetamol at a cost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 What sort of doctors were these? Where? And how recently? You can certainly have an MRI if you want, you can even get one on your own before seeing doctor and bring it with you. Will be cheaper than doing it at the hospital. Here (Bang Na so convenient if coming by care from Pattaya) http://www.mrithailand.com/index.php?modules=article&parent_id=2&id=9 If the pain is lower back then what you want is MRI of lower spine without contrast Assuming the Xray was very recent bring it with you (to the doctor) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAZZDOG Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Look here man, you have been given reasonable options. Maintaining the status quo is not an option or you wouldn't be on here. Go see the doctor and the next day will be far better than today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poanoi Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, Sheryl said: What sort of doctors were these? Where? And how recently? You can certainly have an MRI if you want, you can even get one on your own before seeing doctor and bring it with you. Will be cheaper than doing it at the hospital. Here (Bang Na so convenient if coming by care from Pattaya) http://www.mrithailand.com/index.php?modules=article&parent_id=2&id=9 If the pain is lower back then what you want is MRI of lower spine without contrast Assuming the Xray was very recent bring it with you (to the doctor) hello, those doctors were just standard doctors at standard hospitals, like, the same doctor and hospital i would go to for any illness, and it was 25+ years ago for bangna, i already paid 27k to visa agency rather than risking having to suffer a trip to bkk ministry of foreign affairs or god forbid, a trip to laos, i pay anything not to have to walk, i worry a lot about travel to bkk, if i could i would charter an ambulance to minimize pain Edited April 23, 2018 by poanoi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Do I understand you correctly? You've had back for 25 years, & you alledge seeing a 'standard doctor',then but you're still in alot of pain, and everything it seems prevents you from consulting with another Doctor. Are you hoping to obtain Codeine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poanoi Posted April 24, 2018 Author Share Posted April 24, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, faraday said: Do I understand you correctly? You've had back for 25 years, & you alledge seeing a 'standard doctor',then but you're still in alot of pain, and everything it seems prevents you from consulting with another Doctor. Are you hoping to obtain Codeine? i'm hoping for nembutal, but now is a month since i paid and no sign of it, looks like another scam so i have to make a plan B Edited April 24, 2018 by poanoi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 H 20 minutes ago, poanoi said: i'm hoping for nembutal, but now is a month since i paid and no sign of it, looks like another scam so i have to make a plan B That stuff is a last resort as it does kill.... I suppose you have tried Diclofenac, which can buy easy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poanoi Posted April 24, 2018 Author Share Posted April 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, transam said: H That stuff is a last resort as it does kill.... I suppose you have tried Diclofenac, which can buy easy... i have most likely tried that one too, i seem to recognize the name, i remember one of them gave me horrible stomach pain. i dont want any mediocre treatment, it does nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, poanoi said: i have most likely tried that one too, i seem to recognize the name, i remember one of them gave me horrible stomach pain. i dont want any mediocre treatment, it does nothing. I was on them for years but you have to take something like Lansprol to sort the stomach out whilst on them.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Nembutal is not for pain relief. Take too much, & you will not wake up. I really have no idea what you are trying to achieve in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Strangely I have two ex wives that had lower back problems. They both were on pills for yonks, but then both went under the knife to sort stuff. One three times the other once... With my problem my consultant and friend would be totally honest with me regarding pain relief, he pointed out that he could give me stuff that would be a great help but could kill, or stuff where if l drank booze it may do the same, so the happy medium was Diclofenac. My condition was non operable, only for repair.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl sees all Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 (edited) I reckon a good stretching routine would help. Also try ginger. Or ginger wine. Stay away from strong painkillers. They only mask the problem. Edited April 24, 2018 by owl sees all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, owl sees all said: I reckon a good stretching routine would help. Also try ginger. Or ginger wine. Stay away from strong painkillers. They only mask the problem. Pain killers are exactly that, and thank heavens we have them, if we didn't l would have been bed ridden with my incurable disease... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl sees all Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, transam said: Pain killers are exactly that, and thank heavens we have them, if we didn't l would have been bed ridden with my incurable disease. Different circumstances transam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 minute ago, owl sees all said: Different circumstances transam. My ex wife laid face down on the floor for near six months, the only position where relief from pain was reduced, but she needed pain killing pills to help out.. Without the pills there would have been constant tears.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poanoi Posted April 24, 2018 Author Share Posted April 24, 2018 40 minutes ago, faraday said: Nembutal is not for pain relief. Take too much, & you will not wake up. I really have no idea what you are trying to achieve in this thread. this is plan B, at first it was a new wunderantiinflammation, now its somehow reaching the hospital in bkk with as little walk as possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl sees all Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, transam said: My ex wife laid face down on the floor for near six months, the only position where relief from pain was reduced, but she needed pain killing pills to help out.. Without the pills there would have been constant tears. Of course transam. Pain killers are a great aid to people in pain. I took a slug in the army and suffered for years; painkillers were on the menu daily. I reckon in this specific case (OP), normalising the back would be the priority. Stretching and natural stuff could help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEVUP Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 So you paid 27,000 to an agency I certainly cant see anything stopping you from going to a good Doc/Specialist , & getting the full works to find the problem & sought the out come I'm sure they could have one of those hospital transport companies that ferry patients around come & get you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeray Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 On 20/04/2018 at 2:46 PM, poanoi said: between my shoulders came from carrying a piano and get stuck on a doorstep, i think a piece of my spine got pushed inwards, and that in turn causes my ribs to dislocate from time to time. the bigger issue came later when i was lifting heavy during working, i was sort of bending forward and lift with my back rather than my legs since i was too exhausted to move my feet. i can only stand or walk for a few minutes a day, and these days i also get pain from sitting or laying down, i can not escape the pain no matter how i do If you are carrying a gut, get rid of it. Speaking from experience, I blew off my gut and realized after how much it had been affecting my back. And traditional Thai yoga can do wonders too. If you use turmeric as suggested above, mix it with black pepper which activates the turmeric. A super hot shower, as hot as you can take it in the pain area is of great help too. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poanoi Posted April 24, 2018 Author Share Posted April 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, neeray said: If you are carrying a gut, get rid of it. Speaking from experience, I blew off my gut and realized after how much it had been affecting my back. And traditional Thai yoga can do wonders too. If you use turmeric as suggested above, mix it with black pepper which activates the turmeric. A super hot shower, as hot as you can take it in the pain area is of great help too. Good luck. yes, i know about the hot shower relief :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, poanoi said: yes, i know about the hot shower relief :) Are you carrying a beer belly...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poanoi Posted April 24, 2018 Author Share Posted April 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, transam said: Are you carrying a beer belly...? yes, i added a lot of fat in my misery in cambodia, feeding on icecream chocolate and cookies since cambodians dont do meat. i didnt drink a single drop of alcohol in that god forsaken shithole tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, poanoi said: yes, i added a lot of fat in my misery in cambodia, feeding on icecream chocolate and cookies since cambodians dont do meat. i didnt drink a single drop of alcohol in that god forsaken shithole tho Well for sure that weight will be "pulling" on your lower back. Time to get your head in gear and get rid of it, every little helps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimman Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 hour ago, poanoi said: i'm hoping for nembutal, This medication is not available (legally) in Thailand and is not a treatment for back pain. I wonder if you have been used to using Pentobarbital(Nembutal) obtained elsewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poanoi Posted April 24, 2018 Author Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Swimman said: This medication is not available (legally) in Thailand and is not a treatment for back pain. I wonder if you have been used to using Pentobarbital(Nembutal) obtained elsewhere? i bought it online a month ago, last i heard from them was they had received my $500, and then nuffing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 46 minutes ago, poanoi said: this is plan B, at first it was a new wunderantiinflammation, now its somehow reaching the hospital in bkk with as little walk as possible Your posts are becoming more bizarre. Why on earth would you take Nembutal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachproperty Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 The guys a troll.....a pill popping troll He just wants to know if there any drugs available at your local pharmacy.....Answer NO! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Yes, almost certainly a troll. That was why I mentioned Codiene. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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