recom273 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 I have been playing around with home automation recently, and looking to moving into swapping out a couple of light switches. Are the regular Thai backboxes the same size as US standard? Sent from my iPad using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 What size are US back boxes? Our boxes here are about 110mm x 70mm front panel fixings on 83mm centres, depth varies with type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Good exercise this, I hope the OP comes back and posts the US box sizes. However, based on my experience with Thai car rego plates that look the same style and size as US car rego plates, they're close but annoyingly different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Boxes seem about the same size fixings on 97mm centres. Annoyingly different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruit Trader Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 28 minutes ago, Crossy said: Boxes seem about the same size fixings on 97mm centres. Annoyingly different. Got to be careful with them US fittings as they have two centres. One for the back fixing and one for the front cover plate. You might find the back fixing is close to your 83 mmm. Also they use a stone age measuring system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recom273 Posted April 22, 2018 Author Share Posted April 22, 2018 This is so Thailand. All these RF / Wifi switches are made to AU / US / CH / UK spec .. These switches and technology are so cheap now, and experiment.It’s all experimentation at the moment, we are looking to buy our own place in the next year. The wifi light switches look good in US dimensions, so, If I have to buy a box of US backboxes then its better to find out sooner than later.I will post back when the switches arrive, thanks all.Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Crossy Posted April 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2018 Warning Will Robinson, warning! Don't forget that any US spec. kit will likely be 120V (no not the back boxes), connecting in Thailand will let out the magic smoke 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recom273 Posted April 26, 2018 Author Share Posted April 26, 2018 Warning Will Robinson, warning! Don't forget that any US spec. kit will likely be 120V (no not the back boxes), connecting in Thailand will let out the magic smoke These switches are the same innards, they just change the dimensions.Sent from my iPad using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recom273 Posted April 26, 2018 Author Share Posted April 26, 2018 After doing a little research, seems like the switches have a screw adjustment, I watched a Thai video with a guy fitting a broadlink rf switch, but, sonoff have a similar fixture that may allow for fitting into a Thai system.It’s enough to order a couple and take the risk.Sent from my iPad using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 6 hours ago, recom273 said: It’s enough to order a couple and take the risk. Yup, looks like that will fit a Thai box, it's also marked as 90-250V AC. Looks like you're good to go. IMPORTANT - Note the note that the N connection is needed for the switch to function, not all switch wiring takes a N to the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sometimewoodworker Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 12 hours ago, Crossy said: Yup, looks like that will fit a Thai box, it's also marked as 90-250V AC. Looks like you're good to go. IMPORTANT - Note the note that the N connection is needed for the switch to function, not all switch wiring takes a N to the box. I think that it's probably more likely usually there is no N taken to the box, here or in the UK it is standard to have a switched live only in the box what ever colours have been used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 11 minutes ago, sometimewoodworker said: I think that it's probably more likely usually there is no N taken to the box, here or in the UK it is standard to have a switched live only in the box what ever colours have been used. UK standard is no N at the box, most of our boxes have N, but only because I insisted. Broadlink products https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-Broadlink-TC2-3Gang-Wireless-Wifi-Connection-Wall-Touch-Panel-Light-Switch-Remote-Control-Via-Smart/32817514028.html don't need a neutral at the switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recom273 Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 UK standard is no N at the box, most of our boxes have N, but only because I insisted. Broadlink products https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-Broadlink-TC2-3Gang-Wireless-Wifi-Connection-Wall-Touch-Panel-Light-Switch-Remote-Control-Via-Smart/32817514028.html don't need a neutral at the switch.My switches also look good in my new build rental place, someone looks to have done a good job, all the colours are there, it would seem a waste of time not to finish them at the junction box.Like Crossy says, its all about insistence, when we take the plunge then I will know what to insist upon to have a stress free installation.BTW, I had already planned to go with the sonoff switches, these are wifi. The broadlink are RF, which need a broadlink hub to connect to your voice assistant. The wifi switches are discovered by the assistants without too much trouble,I will post back, as and when.Sent from my iPad using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 20 hours ago, sometimewoodworker said: I think that it's probably more likely usually there is no N taken to the box, here or in the UK it is standard to have a switched live only in the box what ever colours have been used. Question on the Chase yesterday. How many wire colours in a standard UK plug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimman Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, VocalNeal said: Question on the Chase yesterday. How many wire colours in a standard UK plug 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 18 minutes ago, VocalNeal said: How many wire colours in a standard UK plug Four. Three wires, four colours. So what was the "correct" answer? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) I said Four. Chaser said 3 got it wrong Edited April 28, 2018 by VocalNeal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wirejerker Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 I said 3 but the pedantic will see 4Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, Wirejerker said: I said 3 but the pedantic will see 4 The question was how many colours not wires. Nothing pedantic about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wirejerker Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Touchy?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, Wirejerker said: Touchy? Accurate Anyway, we are more than somewhat off-topic here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wirejerker Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 You started it. I been thinking what I missed for hoursSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 22 minutes ago, Wirejerker said: You started it. Really? Three is incorrect, four is correct. Four in Oz too. And for those who are wondering what the flip we are discussing, the colours are Brown, Blue, Green, Yellow. I was actually asked this at my first ever job interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wirejerker Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Okay knee jerk answer Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Wirejerker said: Okay knee jerk answer Truce! There are more important things in this world. Now what was the subject of the thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sometimewoodworker Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Swimman said: 3 Currently 3 wires 4 colours is only true for earthed appliances. Double insulated ones only have 2 wires 2 colours neutral and line. But if the wiring is old enough then 3 & 3 Edited April 28, 2018 by sometimewoodworker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimman Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, sometimewoodworker said: 3 wires 4 colours is only true for earthed appliances. Double insulated ones only have 2 wires 2 colours neutral and line. The question did specify a standard plug - are DI ones "standard"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sometimewoodworker Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Swimman said: The question did specify a standard plug - are DI ones "standard"? It is the appliances that are Double insulated not the plugs, and yes they are standard, they mostly use 3 pin plugs and if correctly supplied and with with a moulded on plug the "earth" pin is plastic Edited April 28, 2018 by sometimewoodworker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimman Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, sometimewoodworker said: It is the appliances that are Double insulated not the plugs, and yes they are standard Whatever you say! I am not an expert in these matters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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