How to get a 10 year visit visa on a 5 year Thai passport ?

[Denim]

Heading says it all. I was thinking about getting my wife a 10 year visit visa to the UK as I have a lot of elderly relatives and may need to return to the UK in a hurry. My wife , naturally would like to come so the 10 year visa seems like a good idea.

 

However..... the last two Thai passports she has had are only valid for 5 years. If you get the 10 year visa can it be transferred from an old passport to a new one or is there some other process ?

 

Thanks in advance for any insights.

[ubonjoe]

Not sure about the UK but other countries will issue a 10 year visa and then when a new passport is issued both passports are used on entry to use the visa in the old passport.

[Denim]

Just now, ubonjoe said:

Not sure about the UK but other countries will issue a 10 year visa and then when a new passport is issued both passports are used on entry to use the visa in the old passport.

Thanks for that ubonjoe. Makes sense.

 

I hear Thais will soon be getting 10 year passports but not sure exactly when.

[theoldgit]

With the UK you travel with your valid visa in the expired passport, that’s sufficient.
You can pay to have the vignette transferred to your new passport but it’s not necessary and quite expensive.
Ten year visas are fairly difficult to obtain, not impossible but fairly difficult.



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[Denim]

4 minutes ago, theoldgit said:

With the UK you travel with your valid visa in the expired passport, that’s sufficient.
You can pay to have the vignette transferred to your new passport but it’s not necessary and quite expensive.
Ten year visas are fairly difficult to obtain, not impossible but fairly difficult.



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I previously could not be bothered. However, both my 84 year old mother and 105 grandmother are currently ill and I may need to go in a hurry. My wife would like to come but that slows things down a bit.

 

A 10 year visa if obtainable would probably be enough until its my turn to buy the farm.

My wife has been twice before with no problems but the tooing and froing from Bangkok is a hassle.

[theoldgit]

My wife, as my girlfriend, had two six month visas, then a two year one and following our marriage she then get a five one.
I have no evidence to confirm that ten year ones are difficult, mainly hearsay.
You’re right, a longer term visa gives you the flexibility to travel at short notice if there’s a need, but they’re not really cost effective unless you use them regularly.


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[Denim]

1 minute ago, theoldgit said:

My wife, as my girlfriend, had two six month visas, then a two year one and following our marriage she then get a five one.
I have no evidence to confirm that ten year ones are difficult, mainly hearsay.
You’re right, a longer term visa gives you the flexibility to travel at short notice if there’s a need, but they’re not really cost effective unless you use them regularly.


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Agreed....that's why I never bothered as felt I would not get use out of them. Now with a whole bunch of people on deaths door I'm rethinking it.

Once you look at it from the value point of view the 10 year one seems much better value than the 5 year one especially if you factor in the wasted money going to and fro from Bangkok, and staying in hotels for each separate standard application.

[LukKrueng]

20 hours ago, Denim said:

Thanks for that ubonjoe. Makes sense.

 

I hear Thais will soon be getting 10 year passports but not sure exactly when.

I was told the beginning of next year....

[BarnicaleBob]

After she gets her new Thai passport, have her take it and the old one to the Thai passport office and they will put a stamp in the new one stating the old passport contains her visa.  Then she presents both passports upon entry.   I've done this with my wife and it works.

[7by7]

2 hours ago, BarnicaleBob said:

After she gets her new Thai passport, have her take it and the old one to the Thai passport office and they will put a stamp in the new one stating the old passport contains her visa.  Then she presents both passports upon entry.   I've done this with my wife and it works.

 

As said above, as far as the UK is concerned a valid visa is still valid even if the passport the vignette is stuck into has expired. From Transfer your visa from your passport

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If your passport has expired

You can still use the valid visa in your expired passport, but you’ll need to show your expired passport and your new passport when you’re travelling to and from the UK.

If you’re in the UK, you can apply for a BRP instead.

If you’re outside the UK, you can transfer your visa to your new passport.

Transferring the visa currently costs £154, so most people don't bother and simply carry both passports, showing them both when required.

 

I don't know how much it costs to get the stamp from the Thai passport office to which you refer; doubtless cheaper than £154. But why bother when there is absolutely no need for it? Particularly as such a stamp will become redundant when the visa expires before the new passport does!

 

[realenglish1]

My wife has a 10 year USA visa However her passport will expire before that She just carries the expired passport with the USA visa and show they the new passport with the old one that has the visa

Very simple

[allen303]

On ‎5‎/‎5‎/‎2018 at 12:55 AM, Denim said:

Thanks for that ubonjoe. Makes sense.

 

I hear Thais will soon be getting 10 year passports but not sure exactly when.

Several weeks ago was on Thai TV News that Thailand was going to 10 year PP later this year

[theoldgit]

Sorry to be pedantic but you haven’t “a couple of six month visas for your wife over the years”, you may have done all the donkey work and maybe even paid for the visas, but your wife was the applicant and it’s her that needs to meet the requirements.
Sorry again, now back to the question.
For your wife to be granted a visa with a ten year validity she need to satisfy the Entry Clearance Officer in Bangkok, next month in Delhi, that there’s a reasonable need to travel to the UK over an extended period and that her circumstances are unlikely to change during that period.
Longer term visas are normally issued to those with a previous history of travel to the UK, my wife had two six month visas and a two year one before she got a five year one. Longer term would be not be considered for an initial application, this is not a hard and fast rule, or even a rule, I’m sure some applicants have received longer term visas far earlier.
I’m not sure that the use of an agent would be easier, your wife either qualifies or she doesn’t, and in any case your wife would still need to attend the Visa Application Centre in Bangkok. That said, a reasonable agent, I would only suggest a couple in Thailand, might guide you through the process and advise you if the application is likely to fail, remember that if the UKVI issue a visa with a shorter validity there is no refund of the extra fees.
I’m going to split this thread and start a new topic.


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[Tongjaw]

59 minutes ago, theoldgit said:

Sorry to be pedantic but you haven’t “a couple of six month visas for your wife over the years”, you may have done all the donkey work and maybe even paid for the visas, but your wife was the applicant and it’s her that needs to meet the requirements.
Sorry again, now back to the question.
For your wife to be granted a visa with a ten year validity she need to satisfy the Entry Clearance Officer in Bangkok, next month in Delhi, that there’s a reasonable need to travel to the UK over an extended period and that her circumstances are unlikely to change during that period.
Longer term visas are normally issued to those with a previous history of travel to the UK, my wife had two six month visas and a two year one before she got a five year one. Longer term would be not be considered for an initial application, this is not a hard and fast rule, or even a rule, I’m sure some applicants have received longer term visas far earlier.
I’m not sure that the use of an agent would be easier, your wife either qualifies or she doesn’t, and in any case your wife would still need to attend the Visa Application Centre in Bangkok. That said, a reasonable agent, I would only suggest a couple in Thailand, might guide you through the process and advise you if the application is likely to fail, remember that if the UKVI issue a visa with a shorter validity there is no refund of the extra fees.
I’m going to split this thread and start a new topic.


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Thanks for the info. 

[Denim]

Yes.....I wouldn't bother applying for a 10 year UK visa if your wife has not been before. Too risky.  My wife has also been to the UK on previous occasions and we have always shortened our journey rather than lengthening it. Plan for four weeks but get homesick after three.

[cnx355]

You can check with the Thai passport Offices. I read  in one of the English newspaper that  in July they will start the new Thai passport with a 10 year validity.

The Ministry  wait to finish the contract with the previous company that provided the  passport.

 

 

 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

On 5/8/2018 at 7:13 PM, cnx355 said:

You can check with the Thai passport Offices. I read  in one of the English newspaper that  in July they will start the new Thai passport with a 10 year validity.

The Ministry  wait to finish the contract with the previous company that provided the  passport.

 

The latest official estimate now is mid-2020.... which means they're running right on schedule Thai style!!!  

[UKresonant]

On 5/5/2018 at 1:22 PM, Denim said:

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A 10 year visa if obtainable would probably be enough until its my turn to buy the farm.

My wife has been twice before with no problems but the tooing and froing from Bangkok is a hassle.

That’s why the wife got the 10 year one, to much time and hassle to go to Bangkok, once you find you have a need to the UK, she is in old &new passport mode now hopefully a 10 year Visa in a 10 year passport in 2024.

[UKresonant]

On 1/5/2020 at 12:02 PM, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

The latest official estimate now is mid-2020.... which means they're running right on schedule Thai style!!!  

It’s a pity, we’re going down to London soon to do the Daughters passport renewal, would have been better if it were a 10 year one. But not worth hanging on as the date may well slip again..