Need help for well filtration system

[SlyouThai]

Hello everyone , i bought a house recently and right now the system is : a well with a pump sending water to a big blue tank . From this bluetank an other pressure pump to send water to the house. Thats it.

I didnt pay attention to that before buying ( huge mistake i know ). I saw they put a direct pipe from the roof to the blue tank , without any filtration system whatsoever to keep leafs etc  . Meaning all the bad stuff from the roof were falling directly inside the tank..... (a dead animal could have... )

I emptied the tank and at the bottom was a huge amount of very dirty water and black stuff everywhere. We cleaned the tank and i took off the pipe coming from the roof.

 

I do not want to drink the water , i dont need a system allowring me to do that. But i think even for showers etc its necessary to have at least some filtration system somewhere no ?

 

What should i install ? and before the tank or after ?

 

Thanks a lot.

[BEVUP]

after the tank, as any small particles from the well pump (which should have a mesh cage & non return valve on the end of the well pipe ) or ect.

You will always get minute particles from any source,( that build up over quite a time ) that is why the outlet of the tank for the pump maybe up 200 mm from bottom with a lower drain plug.

Just go look in some big hardwares 

As there are many choices depending on how well you want the water, but a simple Cartridge filter would do the trick (again depending on what you want )

[SlyouThai]

last time in homepro someone recommended this

http://mazuma.co.th/shop/water-purifier/s19-122-20lc/

 

15K baths . would that be good for my situation ?  Would be well -pump-tank -mazuma - house pump

 

 

[SlyouThai]

19 minutes ago, BEVUP said:

after the tank, as any small particles from the well pump (which should have a mesh cage & non return valve on the end of the well pipe ) or ect.

 

not sure about that at all. The pump isnt submersible . Its on the floor next to the well and there is a long  small pipe going to water level with a floating stuff next to it. you mean if i take out this long pipe i should have a mesh cage and non return valve at the end of it ?

Edited May 8, 2018 by SlyouThai

[BEVUP]

8 minutes ago, SlyouThai said:

you mean if i take out this long pipe i should have a mesh cage and non return valve at the end of it ?

Yes 

The mesh grating wouldn't be to fine & the non return allows the water to remain in the well line so the pump will draw water immediately 

But if your pump seems to be working ok I wouldn't worry to much

Because as mentioned, no matter where you get you water from you are going to end up with sediment settled on the bottom of the tank.

It may takes years before you need to worry & come to think about it must be about 4 yrs for mine (getting water from city ) & I dont see the water coming out brownish in the house

[SlyouThai]

i read that the blue tank are crap because let uv lights goes through and offcourse thats what i have. Must be 15 years old i guess i should change it for a sandstone tank at the same time .

 

So do you use a filtration system for your house ? the water is clear but im just wondering if its not dangerous to not filter anything.

[Fruit Trader]

Now that you are down to well water only, don't you think it would be a good idea to find out what is left to be filtered (if anything) before a shop taps you for 15k.

 

Maybe run the system for while to observe bad odours check tank for sediment and nasty brown stains.

[SlyouThai]

5 minutes ago, Fruit Trader said:

Now that you are down to well water only, don't you think it would be a good idea to find out what is left to be filtered (if anything) before a shop taps you for 15k.

 

Maybe run the system for while to observe bad odours check tank for sediment and nasty brown stains.

im just looking for informations im a noob :) The water in the house was always clear and didnt smell anything special even before we cleaned the tank. Maybe i can go with that and thats enough because i dont plan to drink it. Im just not sure if that wasnt dangerous or something like that ; brushing teeths and shower with  totally unfiltered water from well.

Edited May 8, 2018 by SlyouThai

[BEVUP]

7 minutes ago, SlyouThai said:

So do you use a filtration system for your house ?

No 

We are in a Moo Baan (gated complex ), water coming from city (korat )

No problems doing anything except drinking

As Fruit Trader said just assess it 

I doubt if you need a 15,000 bht filter

 

[carlyai]

I think you need to get the well water tested first. If you don't know what's in your well water you won't know what type of filters to buy.
Where I live I initially had a simple system like yours. My shower tiles started dis-coloring, so I had the water tested and installed the correct filters.

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[Fruit Trader]

6 minutes ago, SlyouThai said:

im just looking for informations im a noob :) The water in the house was always clear and didnt smell anything special even before we cleaned the tank. Maybe i can go with that and thats enough because i dont plan to drink it. Im just not sure if that wasnt dangerous or something like that ; brushing teeths and shower with  totally unfiltered water from well.

You are satisfied with the visual look and it smells ok but you are worried about bacteria.

The only way to satisfy your curiosity is to send a sample for testing.

 

[SlyouThai]

ok guys thanks .

[bankruatsteve]

If you will not use for drinking, the only reason to filter would be to remove things that are crunchy (like sand) that would foul your pump and/or faucets.  But that's not likely unless drawing from a river or open pond.  If the water is foul smelling, I wouldn't use it for anything.  We have a blue tank but it doesn't get direct sunlight and a cap or two of bleach once in a while effectively controls algae.

[carlyai]

If you use water with a high ferric content, you eventually get a rust stain on your bricks, tiles etc,. So if you water your plants you could end up with stains around the area.

If you will not use for drinking, the only reason to filter would be to remove things that are crunchy (like sand) that would foul your pump and/or faucets.  But that's not likely unless drawing from a river or open pond.  If the water is foul smelling, I wouldn't use it for anything.  We have a blue tank but it doesn't get direct sunlight and a cap or two of bleach once in a while effectively controls algae.

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[Pogust]

15 hours ago, bankruatsteve said:

 and a cap or two of bleach once in a while effectively controls algae.

Well green algae is actually cleaning the water for you. It eats the bad organic stuff you don't want and leave a perfectly clean water. If there is some light coming into the tank the algae will grow and feed on anything it can get out of the water. This is the old way of cleaning water in tanks, and how rainwater is collected for drinking. Just keep a mesh over the top so unwanted bigger things don't get in. Usually you also divert the first rainwater away from the tank as it cleans the roof before collection.

 

In a well there might be minerals you don't want and that's another story.

[Fruit Trader]

3 hours ago, Pogust said:

Well green algae is actually cleaning the water for you. It eats the bad organic stuff you don't want and leave a perfectly clean water. If there is some light coming into the tank the algae will grow and feed on anything it can get out of the water. This is the old way of cleaning water in tanks, and how rainwater is collected for drinking. Just keep a mesh over the top so unwanted bigger things don't get in. Usually you also divert the first rainwater away from the tank as it cleans the roof before collection.

 

In a well there might be minerals you don't want and that's another story.

Our booklet for monitoring a chlorine dosing pump and its contact tank includes watching out for algae growth which it says can be can become toxic. A quick search seems to confirm that algae in water tanks is best avoided.

If the algae in our yard hose is anything to go by I would not want those green slimy chunks entering my house toxic or not.

[kamalabob2]

I recently visited a Buriram Village home that has well water for the supply. The Carbon and resin tanks have an automatic timer for backwashing. UV light to kill bacteria. Then another Hitachi water pump to provide water pressure in a expat home with two bathrooms. Every province has incompetent and overpriced water filter companies. Most provinces have at least one water filter shop with staff who have proper training and will back up their work. Going back the day after a water filter system is installed to check with the home owner that he is 100% happy with the operation of the water purification system helps assure ongoing satisfaction in my Isaan experiences. 

[FaFaHead]

On 5/9/2018 at 10:53 PM, kamalabob2 said:

I recently visited a Buriram Village home that has well water for the supply. The Carbon and resin tanks have an automatic timer for backwashing. UV light to kill bacteria. Then another Hitachi water pump to provide water pressure in a expat home with two bathrooms. Every province has incompetent and overpriced water filter companies. Most provinces have at least one water filter shop with staff who have proper training and will back up their work. Going back the day after a water filter system is installed to check with the home owner that he is 100% happy with the operation of the water purification system helps assure ongoing satisfaction in my Isaan experiences. 

What is the contact info for this company. I can’t make it out from the labels. I would like info on this system. 

[kannot]

On 5/8/2018 at 1:40 PM, SlyouThai said:

Hello everyone , i bought a house recently and right now the system is : a well with a pump sending water to a big blue tank . From this bluetank an other pressure pump to send water to the house. Thats it.

I didnt pay attention to that before buying ( huge mistake i know ). I saw they put a direct pipe from the roof to the blue tank , without any filtration system whatsoever to keep leafs etc  . Meaning all the bad stuff from the roof were falling directly inside the tank..... (a dead animal could have... )

I emptied the tank and at the bottom was a huge amount of very dirty water and black stuff everywhere. We cleaned the tank and i took off the pipe coming from the roof.

 

I do not want to drink the water , i dont need a system allowring me to do that. But i think even for showers etc its necessary to have at least some filtration system somewhere no ?

 

What should i install ? and before the tank or after ?

 

 

This really depends on the quality of water from that well, get it tested, place in BKK does it for about 4-5000 baht. You may like me need NO filtering at all

Mine was very clean I have zero filters and two  wells, both  supply me with water, the only problem I have is its very hard but this isnt really a problem if you keep shower heads  clean etc as  the minerals only come out with evaporation so only where they can be cleaned up easily

[sometimewoodworker]

1 hour ago, kannot said:

Mine was very clean I have zero filters and two  wells, both  supply me with water, the only problem I have is its very hard but this isnt really a problem if you keep shower heads  clean etc as  the minerals only come out with evaporation so only where they can be cleaned up easily

They also deposit on the inside of water heaters, pots and kettles, so not only with evaporation.

[kamalabob2]

Ruben of H2o water filtering in Buriram has a showroom near London Steak Restaurant, very near Big C. He encourages a water test prior to selling and installation of water filters. I have known Ruben for over ten years and he has scores of satisfied expat customers in Buriram Province. Sometimewoodworker is spot on mentioning how minerals can impact fittings and appliances. I never wanted to buy a water filter system, yet having clean water has been a huge factor in minimal washing machine repairs and zero dish washing machine repairs. I have never had to replace or repair a Teka, VRH or Cotto tap in my home as the water is clean. I do not drink the tap water very often, and it seems worthwhile to backwash the water filters at my home. 

[kannot]

On 9/24/2018 at 1:02 PM, sometimewoodworker said:

They also deposit on the inside of water heaters, pots and kettles, so not only with evaporation.

correct, i only have 1 water  heater, mostly unused and easy to swap out, 1 changed in 5 years, as  opposed to the  cost of water softening its way cheaper

[FaFaHead]

On 9/23/2018 at 11:41 PM, FaFaHead said:

What is the contact info for this company. I can’t make it out from the labels. I would like info on this system. 

Again guys...are there any water purification companies such as the one with the tank system shown in Chiang Mai? I have Googled and nothing. 

 

Thanks!

[goltec]

http://www.h2owatersystems.co.th   ,   www.water-filter-buriram.com

 

www.facebook.com/h2owatersystemsthailand

[FaFaHead]

8 hours ago, goltec said:

http://www.h2owatersystems.co.th   ,   www.water-filter-buriram.com

 

www.facebook.com/h2owatersystemsthailand

Thank you. 

[Lacessit]

Water from a well may or may not have pathogens from local effluent discharge. Filtration is necessary to remove any solids which will foul pumps and valves.

In terms of human consumption, the safest and simplest course is to boil the water.

[goltec]

On ‎9‎/‎29‎/‎2018 at 7:17 PM, Lacessit said:

Water from a well may or may not have pathogens from local effluent discharge. Filtration is necessary to remove any solids which will foul pumps and valves.

In terms of human consumption, the safest and simplest course is to boil the water.

Are you a water filtration specialist Lacessit ??? I don't want to step on your toes... but be careful with what you advice to others if you are not sure what you are talking about please.   

so called "deep wells" in Thailand are 90% of all cases about 40m deep which are therefor shallow wells and should be considdered pontentially dangerous when it comes to pathogens.

A "real" deepwell is more than a hundred meters deep.

Besides that well water can contain (and in most cases it does) harmful chemicals wich you CAN NOT remove by boiling (!!!) . especially in agricultural areas there is besides the naturally occuring chemicals, run off after rainfall containing hazardous traces of pesticides and fertilizers.

Turning your well water into clean and safe drinking water requires reverse osmosis and some  other filtration steps.

 

 

 

[FaFaHead]

On 10/14/2018 at 9:40 AM, goltec said:

Are you a water filtration specialist Lacessit ??? I don't want to step on your toes... but be careful with what you advice to others if you are not sure what you are talking about please.   

so called "deep wells" in Thailand are 90% of all cases about 40m deep which are therefor shallow wells and should be considdered pontentially dangerous when it comes to pathogens.

A "real" deepwell is more than a hundred meters deep.

Besides that well water can contain (and in most cases it does) harmful chemicals wich you CAN NOT remove by boiling (!!!) . especially in agricultural areas there is besides the naturally occuring chemicals, run off after rainfall containing hazardous traces of pesticides and fertilizers.

Turning your well water into clean and safe drinking water requires reverse osmosis and some  other filtration steps.

 

 

 

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