Novichok: Murder inquiry after Dawn Sturgess dies

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Novichok: Murder inquiry after Dawn Sturgess dies

 

Police have launched a murder inquiry after a woman exposed to nerve agent Novichok in Wiltshire died.

 

Dawn Sturgess, 44, died in hospital on Sunday evening after falling critically ill on 30 June.

 

Charlie Rowley, 45, who was also exposed to the nerve agent in Amesbury, remains critically ill in hospital.

 

Full story: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-44760875

 

-- © Copyright BBC 2018-07-09

[malibukid]

another slap in the face for Teressa May

Edited July 9, 2018 by malibukid

[Proboscis]

1 hour ago, malibukid said:

another slap in the face for Teressa May

Although we cannot prove it yet, all the circumstantial evidence points to this being the residue from the attack on the Russian father and daughter earlier this year. Think about it for a second - why would the Russians launch an attack against a two people who no one knowns with no known connection to Russia during their charm offensive that is the World Cup?

 

So, how is this a slap in the face for Teressa May?

[sup3r1or]

I wouldn't trust a word the UK government says: the background to this is the woman and her partner are heroin addicts.

[sammieuk1]

9 minutes ago, sup3r1or said:

I wouldn't trust a word the UK government says: the background to this is the woman and her partner are heroin addicts.

Drug addicts maybe nerve agent addicts absolutely not. 

[evadgib]

8 minutes ago, sammieuk1 said:

Drug addicts maybe nerve agent addicts absolutely not. 

Feedback from their community suggests they found something attractive to their lifestyle and handled it.

Edited July 9, 2018 by evadgib

[GroveHillWanderer]

9 minutes ago, sup3r1or said:

I wouldn't trust a word the UK government says: the background to this is the woman and her partner are heroin addicts.

What is it that you don't believe? That she has died? You seem to believe the stories about her being a heroin addict, for instance. So you seem perfectly prepared to believe some information about this story but not other parts of it. On what basis do you decide which bits are true and which aren't? 

[Credo]

15 minutes ago, sup3r1or said:

I wouldn't trust a word the UK government says: the background to this is the woman and her partner are heroin addicts.

What a ridiculous statement.   Do heroin addicts deserve to be poisoned with a nerve agent?   Perhaps cigarette smokers deserve it also?

 

The only relevance their addiction has to the situation is that it might help in retracing where they had been.   There probably isn't a need to check the local Church.   

 

And the fact that they were heroin addicts has nothing to do with what the UK government says.  Perhaps the gov't made up the fact that they are heroin addicts?

[lanista]

The laboratories at PD  where the nerve agent was tested is only a few miles away from both the infection sites.

Sounds like there is a much stronger case for UK bungling/incompetence  than accusing the Russians with no evidence.

BOJO seems to have gone quiet along with all those 'imports' in the House of Commons.

[Srikcir]

1 hour ago, Proboscis said:

why would the Russians launch an attack against a two people who no one knowns with no known connection to Russia during their charm offensive that is the World Cup?

There can be a number of possibilities:

• one or both did have some Kremlin connection
• the spread of Novichok was far greater than believed in the attack on the Skripos
• the attack on Sturgess and Rowley was a case of mistaken identity
• the attack on Sturgess and Rowley was a test run in preparation for an attack on another known Kremlin "problem"

More investigation is needed, including M-16 to search for any relevant communications before and after the attack.

As far as Russia behaving itself during a World Cup event, one need only look to Russia's corruption in the Olympics.

 

[tumama]

1 hour ago, Srikcir said:

There can be a number of possibilities:

• one or both did have some Kremlin connection
• the spread of Novichok was far greater than believed in the attack on the Skripos
• the attack on Sturgess and Rowley was a case of mistaken identity
• the attack on Sturgess and Rowley was a test run in preparation for an attack on another known Kremlin "problem"

More investigation is needed, including M-16 to search for any relevant communications before and after the attack.

As far as Russia behaving itself during a World Cup event, one need only look to Russia's corruption in the Olympics.

 

That's assuming they had any involvement in the first attack. Which is a bit of a stretch given no plausible motive has so far been put forward.

 

Much more plausible this was done by a nation wanting to hurt Europe Russia relations.

[Thingamabob]

I hope a root and branch investigation of personnel and procedures at Porton Down is underway. If not, why not ? 

[metisdead]

An off topic trolling post has been removed as well as the replies. 

[dick dasterdly]

22 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

I hope a root and branch investigation of personnel and procedures at Porton Down is underway. If not, why not ? 

In view of what has happened, I'm sure both Porton Down and (to a lesser extent, the govt.....) are very concerned to ensure that there is no link between PD laboratories and the contaminations.  So I've no doubt that an investigation is being carried out.

 

Whether we will ever be told the truth (IF PD was responsible for the contaminations) is more than unlikely as PD is already extremely controversial.