Heroes one and all: Thai media hails seven British divers key in cave rescue

[Jingthing]

I seriously doubt they would even want to travel right now. They want to go home. If it was two weeks from now it could be different. Being alive and saved is really a Hollywood ending enough.

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[anon789561]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

I seriously doubt they would even want to travel right now. They want to go home. If it was two weeks from now it could be different. Being alive and saved is really a Hollywood ending enough.

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world cup final would have been the hollywood ending but i doubt i'd want to be stuck in a plane for the first time after such an ordeal. but for young footie kids like that. they'd be running to the plane i reckon. 

[roo860]

And tickets to Qatar 2022 but only if they stop visiting caves

[emoji106]

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[JAZZDOG]

52 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I seriously doubt they would even want to travel right now. They want to go home. If it was two weeks from now it could be different. Being alive and saved is really a Hollywood ending enough.

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You must be kidding, three days from now those boys be busting a nut to get on that plane. World Cup Baby!!

[JAZZDOG]

3 hours ago, ThreeEyedRaven said:

 

Why not do both to some degree? Set up a welcome home party for them and screen it into the World Cup Final pre-match show. The kids will feel part of it and it will reach out to the world. Apparently they have been invited to Man Utd anyway, so this would be a great ending to a riveting show, while they fully recover. Being from humble backgrounds though, they might want to just be themselves and play football on the local park and not think about any of it, ever again. I wouldn't want to pay that price for being a celebrity.

Screw that, Putin will gladly send his jet to CM and have them back in 24 hours. For those Wild Boars missing the chance to go to the WC would be far worse than going back in that cave. Besides the only reason they agreed to go diving was they were promised a trip to the game. Leave them kids alone!

[neeray]

• These beautiful words showed up today, published by Canada's MACLEANS Magazine. Makes me damn proud of my association with Thailand. I post here to share with fellow TVF members.

 

"MAE SAI, THAILAND • When people in Thailand say goodbye, occasionally they say this: “We will come together when the nation needs us.”

For more than two weeks, twelve of the country’s boys and one of their men have been encased in a dark mountain, hoping someone would bring them into the light of day. Their nation needed them so the people of Thailand came together. And now, to each and every boy who braved an entrapment and escape attempt that transfixed the world, there is no need to say goodbye

Before the soccer players sat huddled in the cave that should have killed them, their coach would take some of them to another cave, which lay at the back of the Mae Sai temple. The cave’s entrance is a black wound surrounded by blue vases and gilt figurines cutting into a wall of jagged rock. The kids would light a candle, they would slip into the dark, and they would pray.

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The temple got busier after the kids disappeared. Monks and villagers left wicks flickering for them just outside the opening of this cave. The old bald nun who has sold offerings for a decade said she’d never seen so many laid down. Mae chee Pim’s baskets of glass beads are running low. And the villagers offered promises: A lot of people say they swore to Buddha that they’ll become vegetarians if he spares the children’s lives. Thailand is about to become a barnyard animal’s paradise.

But in this country, people offer more than thoughts and prayers when their kids are in danger.

They started with food. When they donated too much of that to the rescuers and support workers, it was rubber boots, ponchos, and headlamps instead. Some sang songs, some took school lessons on how to welcome their classmates back, some gave money to the families to let them sit outside the cave, waiting.

And time—they gave hours and hours of that. At the camp outside the cave, Warne Srichai said she took a week away from her job as a nanny to keep the camp’s toilets clean. Ubol Kankham, normally chairwoman of a medical organization, picked up wrappers around the road everyday. Hundreds of others have bussed in from neighbouring farms and flown across the country just so they could tie a yellow kerchief around their neck and ask what had to be done.

When their nation needed them, these people weren’t going to sit around alone.

Was it their king that inspired him? That’s what some of their hats say, a jaunty blue ball-cap also used by volunteers at King Bhumibol Adulyadej’s cremation last year, with a badge stuck to the front showing a smiley cartoon-family cleaning house: “I work for Father.” In a nation with deep divisions between cities and the countryside, the monarchy—even led by a new king—makes many people feel that they are home.

Still, one 2016 study showed that Buddhism matters even more to Thai national identity than the king. Important cultural figures matter. Language matters somewhat too.

And then there are the boys.

Beyond Thailand’s borders, the world is eclipsed by the dark side of nationalism. This dense, rock-hard, let-no-one-in version of collective spirit has smashed apart continental unions. It has bludgeoned trade pacts. It has set vigilantes upon migrants. It has stolen children from their mother’s arms and it has stuck them in cages and it has not bothered to record their names. 

For the children in the cave—Titan, Mig, Dom, Pong, Mark, Tern, Bew, Adul, Note, Nick, Tee, and Night—nationalism demanded more. It said that even a country’s weakest members are worth everything it’s got. Everyone was welcome to be a part of the mission to bring them out. Everyone had to come home.

“Food for all! Even foreigners!” called out yellow-kerchiefed Phawut Wong Chai at a tent on Saturday, handing around plates of rice.

So in a rescue operation that led a group of children through water when they didn’t have the first idea of how to swim, not one boy was left behind. They were all in this together: in unthinkable danger, and in impossible survival. Around the television screens, the radios and the newspapers of Thailand, from the river plains of the south to the steam-covered mountains of this, the north, everyone else was with them too. When the ambulances drove the boys from the cave, people followed even then, cheering.

Under the towering gold Buddha that sits beside the temple cave, candlelight bounces off a dark mass of rock, cutting through a fog of incense: if it wasn’t set against all this suffocating blackness, it couldn’t be seen so clearly. At the temple, candles are used to ask for something. One wonders what purpose they’ll serve now. The people in Mae Sai kept saying this is everything they wanted.

Their kids needed them, and the nation came together to bring them back into the light. But then, they always were the light. Twelve small boys started a fire under a country, illuminated what it means to show up when your presence is required, and even if these children had been forced to say goodbye, the world could have only been left a little brighter for it."

[Basil B]

1 hour ago, JAZZDOG said:

And tickets to Qatar 2022 but only if they stop visiting caves

If England win the World Cup maybe they will come to Thailand to play a friendly match with the Thai Team to raise funds for youth football in Thailand and maybe a cave training and rescue centre.

 

[Jingthing]

You must be kidding, three days from now those boys be busting a nut to get on that plane. World Cup Baby!!

I'm not kidding but you're tripping.

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[JAZZDOG]

6 hours ago, vogie said:

I just hope they can make it to Moscow to see England beat France. ???

They better make it,  likely the Wild Boars will be the only Thai team ever with the chance to take the field at World Cup Final ! They would be remembered 100 years from now.

[Thechook]

Great job by all but Australia isn't part of Britain anymore, they included the Australian doctor/diver in the British group.  Well done to everyone involved

[Thechook]

I like the governors comment to international media on the news, My operation is my greatest achievement so far.

[Jingthing]

35 minutes ago, JAZZDOG said:

They better make it,  likely the Wild Boars will be the only Thai team ever with the chance to take the field at World Cup Final ! They would be remembered 100 years from now.

But they won't make it, will they?

Maybe they can do some kind of recognition of the team and international youth football during the opening, even with the Thai national anthem?

If I was FIFA I would do something. 

Also, I really do you think you're tripping.

Have some understanding for what they've been through. YOU might want them to make it, but you're assuming they would nearly be up for it in a few days. They're focused on being well enough for some pad krapow.

Edited July 10, 2018 by Jingthing

[JAZZDOG]

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

But they won't make it, will they?

Maybe they can do some kind of recognition of the team and international youth football during the opening, even with the Thai national anthem?

If I was FIFA I would do something. 

Also, I really do you think you're tripping.

Have some understanding for what they've been through. YOU might want them to make it, but you're assuming they would nearly be up for it in a few days. They're focused on being well enough for some pad krapow.

Lighten up, it is mostly in jest and relief they are ok. I think everybody can chill and relax and not be so uptight about every post. By the way FIFA was notified the boys would not be attending due to health concerns. We still need to hit FIFA up for a rain check for QATAR 2022. With your permission of course, HaHa

[JAZZDOG]

45 minutes ago, Thechook said:

Great job by all but Australia isn't part of Britain anymore, they included the Australian doctor/diver in the British group.  Well done to everyone involved

Same for all the Americans and we are not part of Britain anymore either.

[BangkokSausage]

You must be kidding, three days from now those boys be busting a nut to get on that plane. World Cup Baby!!

Yeah it's weird. Lots of posts last few days insisting they are better off in hospital. I think it's called old man disease.. So old they forgot how resilient kids can be.

[stanleycoin]

13 minutes ago, JAZZDOG said:

Lighten up, it is mostly in jest and relief they are ok. I think everybody can chill and relax and not be so uptight about every post. 

Yes your right. it's time for some light hearted banter.

 

But shame on all the negative / bickering sad act posters,  over the last few days, across many threads about this rescue mission.

who just could not keep there big mouths shut.

You all know who you are, Toss pots. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 10, 2018 by stanleycoin

[sanemax]

6 minutes ago, BangkokSausage said:

2 hours ago, JAZZDOG said:

You must be kidding, three days from now those boys be busting a nut to get on that plane. World Cup Baby!!

Yeah it's weird. Lots of posts last few days insisting they are better off in hospital. I think it's called old man disease.. So old they forgot how resilient kids can be.

The kids have been isolated in a cave for two weeks , now they are in quarantine in hospital .

   Doctors can access them as to whether they are fit enough to travel  , they may just want to go home and be with their family .

[sanemax]

8 minutes ago, stanleycoin said:

Yes your right. it's time for some light hearted banter.

But shame on all the negative / bickering sad act posters,  over the last few days, across many threads about this rescue mission.

who just could not keep there big mouths shut.

 

It was worse last week when some posters with offering "RIPs" and "Condolences" , although those posters havent been seen for a while .

[neeray]

13 minutes ago, sanemax said:

It was worse last week when some posters with offering "RIPs" and "Condolences" , although those posters havent been seen for a while .

Ditto ...... And what about those posters who were laying odds on some losses if the rescue went ahead in "dive" form. Such totally ridiculous posts !

[Damrongsak]

As for the divers, be they Brit, Aussie, American, Thai or whatever ... I found a great comment on a conservative web site in the U.S.:

 

" I know this is not PC and as a female I should not post this but-—after having seen the tiny little areas the rescuers has to navigate through I am shocked both the rescuers and their huge balls could fit through. ?   Amazing job, best news ever."

 

Anyone have a way to pass this on to the divers/rescuers? 

[happy chappie]

I think it's time for the Thai media to pack up and jump on a plane down to Phuket where nearly 50 people are dead and the search is on for more still missing.i can't believe that so much attention has been given to this cave rescue and the real disaster has taken 2nd place.yes it's great news that they were all rescued but lets not forget this massacre of people including many children.

[Spidey]

1 hour ago, JAZZDOG said:

Same for all the Americans and we are not part of Britain anymore either.

CNN, last night, gave the main credit to the Thais. Even stated that the doctor who stayed with the boys was Thai (Australian). Of the international group, primary credit was given to the Americans (of course) followed by a mention for the Australians. No mention of British involvement. Not that I or the British cave divers, who led the mission, could give a stuff. Brits aren't glory hunters.

[greenchair]

8 hours ago, DanaDeLuxe said:

My special thanks go out to Vernon Unsworth! He chose to take action while being at the right place in time. And though they succeeded all the way through! Hat's off!

And also to the governor for a flawless job in coordinating and accepting the help from all directions, Thai and international!

 

Yes, the governer was also key to this whole operation. He was open to every idea , calm and steadfast throughout the ordeal. He really brought this whole thing together and it most likely would be a different story with someone else. His name should be right up there with the brits. The seven brits and their leader that brought these boys home. 

Well done narongsak osottanakorn.

 

 

[lamyai3]

7 minutes ago, Spidey said:

CNN, last night, gave the main credit to the Thais. Even stated that the doctor who stayed with the boys was Thai (Australian). Of the international group, primary credit was given to the Americans (of course) followed by a mention for the Australians. No mention of British involvement. Not that I or the British cave divers, who led the mission, could give a stuff. Brits aren't glory hunters.

There's been extensive news reportage over the past week or so, and especially since the boys were first found. I can assure you that the international news media from all over (including CNN) has given proper credit to the Brits. How could they not, given the initial conversation that happened. I found coverage on this whole story to show news media at it's very best, that every presenter and on the spot reporter was genuinely horrified at the situation the kids and their rescuers faced, and the cooperation of all parties concerned. It's been the most tense and uplifting story I can remember in a long time, with very little in the way of negativity or finger pointing so far. 

[Spidey]

1 minute ago, lamyai3 said:

There's been extensive news reportage over the past week or so, and especially since the boys were first found. I can assure you that the international news media from all over (including CNN) has given proper credit to the Brits. How could they not, given the initial conversation that happened. I found coverage on this whole story to show news media at it's very best, that every presenter and on the spot reporter was genuinely horrified at the situation the kids and their rescuers faced, and the cooperation of all parties concerned. It's been the most tense and uplifting story I can remember in a long time, with very little in the way of negativity or finger pointing so far. 

I can assure you that the CNN reporting, last night, was as I stated.

[greenchair]

1 hour ago, JAZZDOG said:

Same for all the Americans and we are not part of Britain anymore either.

There weren't any Americans in the main dive team that brought them out. Altogether there were dozens of divers from many nationalities. But this story is about the 6 brit and 1 Australian that were instrumental in bringing them out. 

Sorry to your ego, but none of them were American. ?

[lamyai3]

37 minutes ago, happy chappie said:

I think it's time for the Thai media to pack up and jump on a plane down to Phuket where nearly 50 people are dead and the search is on for more still missing.i can't believe that so much attention has been given to this cave rescue and the real disaster has taken 2nd place.yes it's great news that they were all rescued but lets not forget this massacre of people including many children.

Sadly, all disasters aren't created equal. Road accidents and overloaded ferries setting out against the advice of weather warnings are two a penny in this region and while tragic, tend to be too common to make much of an impact on the news cycle. Here's another ferry disaster in which a similar number died in Indonesia just a couple of days earlier:

 

https://edition-m.cnn.com/2018/07/04/asia/indonesia-ferry-sinking-intl/index.html

[Spidey]

5 minutes ago, greenchair said:

There weren't any Americans in the main dive team that brought them out. Altogether there were dozens of divers from many nationalities. But this story is about the 6 brit and 1 Australian that were instrumental in bringing them out. 

Sorry to your ego, but none of them were American. ?

Just wait for the Hollywood movie to come out. Americans will lead the mission, get the boys out and American doctors will save their lives. Wouldn't be surprised if they give Ego Musk a vital part to play in the rescue.

[ukrules]

8 hours ago, evadgib said:

http://www.caverescue.org.uk/

Their 'donate' button works ?

I can confirm that the donate button does work.

[lamyai3]

5 minutes ago, Spidey said:

I can assure you that the CNN reporting, last night, was as I stated.

I don't disbelieve you, but much of the international coverage I've seen has also been on CNN. This is a print edition, but it's not untypical of the coverage I saw on their TV news. I'm English myself and I have no complaint about the way they've covered this story in recent days. 

https://edition-m.cnn.com/2018/07/10/asia/thai-cave-rescue-international-intl/index.html