54 minutes ago, seancbk said:

 

No, but I'd expect to be able to park outside my shop.   What if I needed to do regular deliveries and needed to be parked there to pickup/drop-off stuff?  

It's common courtesy to leave the spot outside a shop for the owner. 

Unless there is a parking meter outside the shop, everywhere I've lived in Asia treats spaces outside shops as for the use of the shop.

I think you are already living too long in this country. You have lost your sense of justice. There is no law here that guarantees the space outside from a shop house or other property to its owner. 

 

If you need this space you could ask the government. Maybe they will rent it to you...:)

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Edited July 13, 20187 yr by andre47

The OP is totally right, but...

 

You cannot change a whole country. Too many people here are thinking that they can do what they want and they believe only in the law of the strongest.

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Edited July 13, 20187 yr by andre47

Try double parking (blocking one lane), 

I think this is acceptable as I see it so often.

Probably a healthy option also - less risk to your life.

3 minutes ago, digbeth said:

1 hour ago, seancbk said:

 

No, but I'd expect to be able to park outside my shop.   What if I needed to do regular deliveries and needed to be parked there to pickup/drop-off stuff?  

It's common courtesy to leave the spot outside a shop for the owner. 

Unless there is a parking meter outside the shop, everywhere I've lived in Asia treats spaces outside shops as for the use of the shop.

 

Where do your customers park then? in front of other people's business?

 

I expect most customers to be on foot, having parked in a proper car park somewhere.    

 

1 hour ago, seancbk said:

If I owned or rented a shop I would consider the parking out front to be mine.   

 

You might consider it to be yours but its obviously not.Delivery vehicles are used to double parking while they load/unload.

 

One of the reasons my trips to the old city in our car are limited to about once a month now is there is no parking anywhere.

 

I've even taken to parking in some temples and dropping 20 baht in the donation box and walking away with a feeling of guilt !

 

it's an unwritten rule.

 

confrontational foreigners again trying to impose their will.

 

 

I think the OP and some other posters actively seek out angry shop owners.

 

Carrying bolt cutters and removing chains? I call BS that never happened probably

a rage fuelled fantasy after being shooed off by an upstart Thai.

 

The only time I have had an issue parking outside back shop a guy came out and ushered me forward 

6 feet and we both carried on with our day.

4 hours ago, Trujillo said:

Is that an actual photo of you in your avatar? 

 

Did you explain the law to them in Thai? If not, you might as well be clucking like a chicken for all the good it would do you. 

 

Having said that, I feel your pain. At some point, however, you should understand that your car will be "keyed" by someone, or your tires slashed. Just FYI.

As I've said before Thais can be very vindictive people. Take extra care if you cross someone. 

1 hour ago, seancbk said:

 

No, but I'd expect to be able to park outside my shop.   What if I needed to do regular deliveries and needed to be parked there to pickup/drop-off stuff?  

It's common courtesy to leave the spot outside a shop for the owner. 

Unless there is a parking meter outside the shop, everywhere I've lived in Asia treats spaces outside shops as for the use of the shop.

Is that what happens any other place in the world, that the shop owner also owns the space outside his shop? Where are customers supposed to park if the owner has a car there. Ridiculous, never known anywhere where that space is reserved for the owner.

Edited July 13, 20187 yr by giddyup

Nice to hear somebody has the balls to act like that and doesn't shit his pants for every local (or any other foreigner).

Edited July 13, 20187 yr by FritsSikkink

47 minutes ago, seancbk said:

 

I expect most customers to be on foot, having parked in a proper car park somewhere.    

 

You mean the same car park where you should park your car?

Edited July 13, 20187 yr by giddyup

4 hours ago, cornishcarlos said:

 

Thais also choose how to deal with their experiences, which will at some stage result in you ending up in   or worse...

 

Good luck with the next one, is it really worth it ??

i admire the OP but as you say 1, is it really worth it 2,  hospital/jail 3, they damage your car 

17 minutes ago, Jonnapat said:

As I've said before Thais can be very vindictive people. Take extra care if you cross someone. 

because their childish and cowards

OP definitely got the minerals

27 minutes ago, shy coconut said:

I think the OP and some other posters actively seek out angry shop owners.

 

Carrying bolt cutters and removing chains? I call BS that never happened probably

a rage fuelled fantasy after being shooed off by an upstart Thai.

 

The only time I have had an issue parking outside back shop a guy came out and ushered me forward 

6 feet and we both carried on with our day.

And many Thai's have guns which would trump bolt cutters anytime. That said I tend to agree with your assessment, likely a fantasy post from the op. 

4 hours ago, colinneil said:

Hells teeth Jock the battle of Bannockburn is long past, you trying for a battle Jock versus Thai?

Aye, but the boys in skirts can fight one on one, unlike most Thais.

4 hours ago, Trujillo said:

I would never put a photo of myself as an avatar. This world contains people who can get offended at slight matters and knowing what you look like means it may be possible to find you. 

 

 

The guy in the avatar just looks like most farangs (the face I mean, unless there's the absence of a fat belly and tattoos).

How many guys could pick out that avatar photo in Bangkok or Pattaya?

4 hours ago, Vacuum said:

I would not believe everything I read on a internet  forum.... For all we know, OP could be a lady.

A lady using boltcutters to cut a chain?

1 minute ago, possum1931 said:

A lady using boltcutters to cut a chain?

No power involved.

44 minutes ago, shy coconut said:

I think the OP and some other posters actively seek out angry shop owners.

 

Carrying bolt cutters and removing chains? I call BS that never happened probably

a rage fuelled fantasy after being shooed off by an upstart Thai.

 

The only time I have had an issue parking outside back shop a guy came out and ushered me forward 

6 feet and we both carried on with our day.

 

2 hours ago, giddyup said:

Why, do you maintain the roads and curbs?

No, he cleans up the dumps left by the Chinese.

Just now, Grumpy Old Man said:

 

Don't leave home without it. 

This is not just Thai business owners .Many bars and restaurants foreign managed do exactly the same thing .However much you disagree its best to fined another place to avoid paint damage to your car . 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They own the sidewalks unless "the law" removes them temporarily. then they return. If a "member of the public" push any of their "fake Junk or poisoned food stand' to get by, then you could be subject to verbal or physical abuse.You'll never change attitude here in a million years

Edited July 13, 20187 yr by markaoffy

2 hours ago, royalmice said:

When in Rome, do as the Roman's do

Even when it comes to driving and riding a motorbike??️

3 minutes ago, markaoffy said:

They own the sidewalks unless "the law" removes them temporarily. then they return. If a "member of the public" push any of their "fake Junk or poisoned food stand' to get by, then you could be subject to verbal or physical abuse.You'll never change attitude here in a million years

OP is not talking about sidewalks. It's about a public road which he pays tax for to use.

This thread attracted some hilarious responses!

Thank you for the humour.

just walk in to there shop, look at a few things, toli, how much, do you have it in purple, no , wrong color and to much, then get on with what you are doing, i have never had a problem!