Guest Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, vogie said: I wouldn't worry too much about your rudeness, maybe you were just born like that. Don't worry, I'm born and educated in this way. I don't care too much about the PC talk. I care far more of the way we humans see each other. Born this way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citybiker Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 All critic is good, well those based on facts. That's how we improve, not demolish the society. If it requires another autocratic person to get in to the power, to keep the wheels running, so be it. I know very little of that world. I know, in my technical world view, I do appreciate the folks who make things work well, regardless how popular they are during the night out. Simply keeping the wheels running is substandard within Brussels level.It's MS expect more than just treading water, you've also previously stated it has prime hard core politicians, autocratic politicians maybe exactly where the EU is going wrong.But then again, as proved it's primarily in denial when it comes to policy challenges, reform requests and self governance.Sent from my SM-T555 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 1 hour ago, oilinki said: All critic is good, well those based on facts. That's how we improve, not demolish the society. If it requires another autocratic person to get in to the power, to keep the wheels running, so be it. I know very little of that world. I know, in my technical world view, I do appreciate the folks who make things work well, regardless how popular they are during the night out. "At least he made the trains run on time"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 32 minutes ago, citybiker said: Simply keeping the wheels running is substandard within Brussels level. No it's not and I'm sure you as well understand that occasionally we do have to ignore some small things to be able to go forward. I certainly had to do so few times on my career. Nothing really meaningful naturally, but things I didn't like to be hidden as I personally like the pure truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 10 minutes ago, JAG said: "At least he made the trains run on time"! I really couldn't care less about your internal problems. We make the similar jokes of my country's train system, which seems to halt when there are leaves on the track. Neither we see the essential infrastructure when it works well. Did you notice the well paved road you drove today? Of course you didn't.. because it's well working infrastructure. This doesn't mean we should improve our infrastructure. The same applies to EU. Let's start improving, instead of complaining, shall we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citybiker Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 No it's not and I'm sure you as well understand that occasionally we do have to ignore some small things to be able to go forward. I certainly had to do so few times on my career. Nothing really meaningful naturally, but things I didn't like to be hidden as I personally like the pure truth. You'd have to narrow the focus in reference what's being tangibly ignored however it's still not an excuse or acceptable, especially within the EU.It's evident were agreeing to disagree, thus move on.Sent from my SM-T555 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, oilinki said: I really couldn't care less about your internal problems. We make the similar jokes of my country's train system, which seems to halt when there are leaves on the track. Neither we see the essential infrastructure when it works well. Did you notice the well paved road you drove today? Of course you didn't.. because it's well working infrastructure. This doesn't mean we should improve our infrastructure. The same applies to EU. Let's start improving, instead of complaining, shall we? I rather think you missed my point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 1 hour ago, oilinki said: In the past we have had quite a few examples of the inner circle keeping some personal behaviours hidden from public view, as the reining leaders were doing their tasking jobs. In Finland, our president climbed a palm tree, while being fully intoxicated. At the time it was published, it was considered fun behaviour ? Churchill was a drinker. Roosevelt was in a wheelchair. Those naturally were the war times, but the well known 'secrets' were buried under, due the work these people did. We used to be more forgiving towards people's disabilities, in public. Perhaps we should start roll back and become similar human beings once again? Even if in today's world we can see everything in real time. Can't compare those times with today, also JFK would not get away with his behaviour anymore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jayboy Posted July 14, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2018 3 hours ago, stevenl said: Anybody who thinks he can be drunk there and at the same time be supported by the PM's of all those NATO countries is not thinking very clearly. Seems more like anti EU posts than reasonable thought out posts. Google the subject.He has been a drunk for many years as countless reports over the last few years confirm.I don't blame him but pity him and hope he can make a recovery.I do blame the EU for covering up and for lying now.Maybe the lack of any public accountability hasn't helped. Is that reasonably enough thought out for you? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, stevenl said: Can't compare those times with today, also JFK would not get away with his behaviour anymore. Can and do. As far as I know, the behaviour of being reasonable has not gone away, even if our todays's media is fast to crucifix anyone who have even thought of wrongdoing. Al Franken as an example. Meanwhile I truly hope, the people who are in real power, are able to do their work, regardless of petty mishaps they might have. If they aren't, they are likely to be subjected to Trump piss tape type of blackmail. That makes the problem to another dimension. I do want our societies to stop being sissies and start being humanistic, like we used to be. Yes, we still can improve the equality in our societies, yes we still can improve the wellbeing among all of us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 11 minutes ago, jayboy said: Google the subject.He has been a drunk for many years as countless reports over the last few years confirm.I don't blame him but pity him and hope he can make a recovery.I do blame the EU for covering up and for lying now.Maybe the lack of any public accountability hasn't helped. Is that reasonably enough thought out for you? Not reasonably thought out, nothing to do with him being drunk at this meeting as is being suggested now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post otto69 Posted July 15, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2018 Of course he is an alcoholic and unfit to be president. Thus he is very prone for blackmail. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post colinneil Posted July 15, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2018 So Junkers was having a problem with sciatica. Sciatica does not make you fall about like that, just a drunken fool getting p++sed on taxpayers money. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ivor bigun Posted July 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2018 If he was not drunk then i am the most handsome man in Pattaya.he is a disgrace. Mind you a bottle of whiskey at lunch gives me sciatica as well Sent from my SM-A720F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 On 7/14/2018 at 6:43 PM, citybiker said: Tasteless speculation? The usual pathetic default Brussels reply. Harsh truth harder to swallow for the EU than a drunk at work... Sent from my SM-T555 using Tapatalk They're just bare faced liars. Over and over again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 On 7/15/2018 at 3:44 PM, otto69 said: Of course he is an alcoholic and unfit to be president. Thus he is very prone for blackmail. He works for Mrs Merkel and does as he's told. Her former Stassi training would mean she knows how to exploit his weaknesses. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citybiker Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 They're just bare faced liars. Over and over again.Which part, the accusations or the denial? Unsure which elements are being focused on. Sent from my SM-A500FU using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 1 minute ago, citybiker said: Which part, the accusations or the denial? Any counter evidence to prove it's lies? Sent from my SM-A500FU using Tapatalk The denial - that's what I replied to. Try and keep up. He's been pissed more than once. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citybiker Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 The denial - that's what I replied to. Try and keep up. He's been pissed more than once. I'm fully up to speed on the media reports of junkers odd tipple thanks. Junker will soon be gone, sooner the better IMO. Sent from my SM-A500FU using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Just now, citybiker said: I'm fully up to speed on the media reports of junkers odd tipple thanks. Junker will soon be gone, sooner the better IMO. Sent from my SM-A500FU using Tapatalk Not before time. He'll be replaced with an equally malleable puppet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citybiker Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Not before time. He'll be replaced with an equally malleable puppet. Unfortunately we equally concur on that issue.IMO The puppet master (Merkel) is the core problem.Sent from my SM-A500FU using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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