16 minutes ago, geriatrickid said:

Is North Korea threatening anyone since the meeting? Has it launched missiles  at Japan or intruded into South Korea territory? Lil Kim has been well behaved since he met Trump.

Obviously you don't understand the long game 

Just let's hope he follows through with this. We should have nuked Tehran, Islamabad and Mecca decades ago.

33 minutes ago, geriatrickid said:

Is North Korea threatening anyone since the meeting? Has it launched missiles  at Japan or intruded into South Korea territory? Lil Kim has been well behaved since he met Trump.

He really is the best boy in class

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/north-korea/north-korea-has-increased-nuclear-production-secret-sites-say-u-n887926

37 minutes ago, geriatrickid said:

You conveniently  forget that Iran   was behind multiple terror attacks in Europe including  bombings in  the UK and Germany. You forget that Iran has threatened to  send missiles against the UK and France. Yo forgetvthat  Denmark was condemned.  

 

What exactly did I state was incorrect? Are you denying that Iran funds Hizbollah and has  supported the shiite state within Lebanon? Are you denying that Iran has not backed shiite militants in Iraq?  Are you denying the fact that Iran financed  Islamic Jihad? Are you denying the  incarceration of human rights activists in Iran, or the murder of thousands, or the recent murder of the biologist?

Lack of balance in your statement, and not willing to see there is more than one sided factbook. 

 

Previous history where both sides trying to outplay the other parts, with allies and enemies. It is a deleted chess game with to many players on the bord

47 minutes ago, geriatrickid said:

You conveniently  forget that Iran   was behind multiple terror attacks in Europe including  bombings in  the UK and Germany. You forget that Iran has threatened to  send missiles against the UK and France. Yo forgetvthat  Denmark was condemned.  

 

What exactly did I state was incorrect? Are you denying that Iran funds Hizbollah and has  supported the shiite state within Lebanon? Are you denying that Iran has not backed shiite militants in Iraq?  Are you denying the fact that Iran financed  Islamic Jihad? Are you denying the  incarceration of human rights activists in Iran, or the murder of thousands, or the recent murder of the biologist?

You seem to forget that Trump's biggest buddy (only buddy??) has European targets in its sights for its real not imagined nuclear weapons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

 

Are you denying that USA funds the apartheid state of Israel? Whose defense  is precisely what this brouhaha is all about.

Other countries should take notice, if they mess with the US they should expect an All CAP Twitter response.

Why is this clown still alive?

2 hours ago, Srikcir said:

And/or the law was very specific - applied to only permanent performers and not to visiting performers. Looks like the police tried to bend the law.

Yeah, that is why the other girls stayed in jail, but somebody had to know the law.

37 minutes ago, dexterm said:

You seem to forget that Trump's biggest buddy (only buddy??) has European targets in its sights for its real not imagined nuclear weapons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

 

Are you denying that USA funds the apartheid state of Israel? Whose defense  is precisely what this brouhaha is all about.

Israel not Apartheid state. Jews and Arab share buses, toilets, restaurants, seat in parliament.  Your comment Marxist Wahabit, Salafist judaphobia.  Racist rubbish.

41 minutes ago, dexterm said:

You seem to forget that Trump's biggest buddy (only buddy??) has European targets in its sights for its real not imagined nuclear weapons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

 

Are you denying that USA funds the apartheid state of Israel? Whose defense  is precisely what this brouhaha is all about.

It gives the same amount of financial aid to Egypt. That's an Arab Muslim country in the MENA BTW.You seem short on fact and long on jew hate and anti USA propaganda.

1 hour ago, The manic said:

Israel not Apartheid state. Jews and Arab share buses, toilets, restaurants, seat in parliament.  Your comment Marxist Wahabit, Salafist judaphobia.  Racist rubbish.

I would love to discuss Israel's latest Nation State Basic Law passed just last week, which now entrenches Israel's apartheid. But perhaps another more appropriate thread.

 

Please don't confuse and conflate criticism of Israel and Zionism with anti Semitism. 

Edited July 23, 20187 yr by dexterm

9 hours ago, geriatrickid said:

You forget that Iran has threatened to  send missiles against the UK and France.

Missiles that Iran doesn't yet possess.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/iran-parades-missiles-and-jets-in-a-warning-to-us-uk-france-2018-4

Missiles that UK, France and the USA do possess as well as Israel and Saudi Arabia.

Trump's repetitive threats of regime change in Iran are conducive to igniting an arm's race in the Middle East of "the likes that the world has never seen."

Wonder what Kim Jong-un thought when he read Trump's tweeted threat towards non-nuclear Iran. Full speed ahead with dismantling North Korea's nuclear program? Fat chance.

 

What a chaotic and incoherent mess Trump has made of US foreign relations!

11 minutes ago, Gecko123 said:

Wonder what Kim Jong-un thought when he read Trump's tweeted threat towards non-nuclear Iran. Full speed ahead with dismantling North Korea's nuclear program? Fat chance.

 

What a chaotic and incoherent mess Trump has made of US foreign relations!

I can promise you, there is not fat chance he is giving up his Nuclare! 

 

Libya is a good example of great chaos after decades with blockades, trheat of dissaster, fabricated news, and full on chaos after intervened by the west! 

 

What is true and not in this world is hard to know, and truth is a fine line of lies. Just ask @geriatrickid 

 

He know the truth about real Israel, and all the fabricated news against Israel, so why shouldnt it be the other way as well? Believing anything else would be at the best an illusion. 

Edited July 24, 20187 yr by Hummin

An off-topic post has been removed.  

 

The topic isn't about Libya and the 'fake news' comments aren't going to cut it.  

 

8 minutes ago, Scott said:

An off-topic post has been removed.  

 

The topic isn't about Libya and the 'fake news' comments aren't going to cut it.  

 

Inside the article, it was a statement from Gaddaffi and whats going to happen! 

 

How their society was, and how western propaganda made it possible to start an conflict, as they did with Iraq, and now want to do with Iran! It is a chain of happenings leads to this one! 

 

"Gaddafi wrote, “They want to do to Libya what they did to Iraq and what they are itching to do to Iran. They want to take back the oil, which was nationalized by these country’s revolutions. They want to re-establish military bases that were shut down by the revolutions and to install client regimes that will subordinate the country’s wealth and labor to imperialist corporate interests. All else is lies and deception.”

 

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-884508

Edited July 24, 20187 yr by Hummin

Just could not help but think of Grandpa Simpson when I saw that tweet.  Of course it's merely a distraction from Manafort's trial and all the other sh!t that's raining down on Trump lately.

 

I think we can all agree that the Middle East is a complete basket case with so many conflicting parties that it would take a lifetime to sort out. My gripe is the sheer hypocrisy of Trump who, when Obama was in power, took to Twitter with these little gems:

 

I predict that President Obama will at some point attack Iran in order to save face! — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 16, 2013

 

Don't let Obama play the Iran card in order to start a war in order to get elected–be careful Republicans! — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 22, 2012

 

Now that Obama’s poll numbers are in tailspin – watch for him to launch a strike in Libya or Iran.He is desperate. — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 9, 2012

 

I always said @BarackObama will attack Iran, in some form, prior to the election.— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 16, 2012 

 

In order to get elected, @BarackObama will start a war with Iran.— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 29, 2011

 

@BarackObama will attack Iran in the not too distant future because it will help him win the election. If the… (cont) — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 14, 2011

 

What we REALLY have to worry about is that 'bomb another country to save your own declining popularity' is a gambit that may have crossed his mind once or twice in the past and one he may now call upon in the future. 

 

On 7/23/2018 at 9:57 PM, geriatrickid said:

Is North Korea threatening anyone since the meeting? Has it launched missiles  at Japan or intruded into South Korea territory?

When have the DPRK ever launched missiles at Japan? How many Japanese cities have they destroyed so far?

On 7/23/2018 at 11:32 PM, Hummin said:

He really is the best boy in class

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/north-korea/north-korea-has-increased-nuclear-production-secret-sites-say-u-n887926

How about real facts and not uncorroborated allegations?

There is documented evidence that the key test sites are shut down and being dismantled.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/24/north-korea-satellite-images-show-dismantling-of-missile-test-facilities-report

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/07/23/politics/north-korea-satellite-images-38-north-sohae/index.html

 

The North is delivering on its undertaking,. This doesn't mean we have to love the man, but it does mean we have to recognize that the nuke testing sites are going.

 

Iran needs to do the same and to stop threatening the USA.

 

Again, I remind you that North Korea has not engaged in one act of intentional hostility against South Korea, Japan or the USA since the meeting with Trump. NOT ONE.

Considering the fact that these acts, minor and serious, occurred on a daily basis, it is an accomplishment.

 

7 hours ago, baboon said:

When have the DPRK ever launched missiles at Japan? How many Japanese cities have they destroyed so far?

North Korea  launched its missiles at Japan. Those were not Issan firecrackers.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/north-korea-latest-missile-test-ballistic-launch-trump-kim-jong-un-news-updates-a8080946.html

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/14/north-korea-files-another-ballistic-missile-japan-residents/

 

18 minutes ago, geriatrickid said:

How about real facts and not uncorroborated allegations?

There is documented evidence that the key test sites are shut down and being dismantled.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/24/north-korea-satellite-images-show-dismantling-of-missile-test-facilities-report

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/07/23/politics/north-korea-satellite-images-38-north-sohae/index.html

 

The North is delivering on its undertaking,. This doesn't mean we have to love the man, but it does mean we have to recognize that the nuke testing sites are going.

 

Iran needs to do the same and to stop threatening the USA.

 

Again, I remind you that North Korea has not engaged in one act of intentional hostility against South Korea, Japan or the USA since the meeting with Trump. NOT ONE.

Considering the fact that these acts, minor and serious, occurred on a daily basis, it is an accomplishment.

 

And what did Iran do after the deal was signed? 

 

A are a bit one side minded in this world, arent you?

1 hour ago, geriatrickid said:

I remind you that North Korea has not engaged in one act of intentional hostility against South Korea, Japan or the USA since the meeting with Trump.

 

Just out of curiosity, why didn't you say "since the meeting with the South Korean president"?

1 hour ago, geriatrickid said:

How about real facts and not uncorroborated allegations?

There is documented evidence that the key test sites are shut down and being dismantled.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/24/north-korea-satellite-images-show-dismantling-of-missile-test-facilities-report

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/07/23/politics/north-korea-satellite-images-38-north-sohae/index.html

 

The North is delivering on its undertaking,. This doesn't mean we have to love the man, but it does mean we have to recognize that the nuke testing sites are going.

 

Iran needs to do the same and to stop threatening the USA.

 

Again, I remind you that North Korea has not engaged in one act of intentional hostility against South Korea, Japan or the USA since the meeting with Trump. NOT ONE.

Considering the fact that these acts, minor and serious, occurred on a daily basis, it is an accomplishment.

 

Yes, acts on a daily basis provoked by USA foreign policy. And now USA foreign policy wants credit for stopping those acts. You're falling for it, I'm not.

 

USA should stop threatening Iran, the present problems are caused by the USA, not by Iran.

Edited July 25, 20187 yr by stevenl

2 hours ago, geriatrickid said:

North Korea  launched its missiles at Japan. Those were not Issan firecrackers.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/north-korea-latest-missile-test-ballistic-launch-trump-kim-jong-un-news-updates-a8080946.html

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/14/north-korea-files-another-ballistic-missile-japan-residents/

 

Missiles which were in outer space when over Japan, en route to the ocean. Not "at" Japan at all.