Just now, BobBKK said:

 

I'd agree that if MSM was barred for biased reporting there would be no US MSM there at all.

As I said before, every single one of them is biased, so why not bar them all? 555

Frankly, is it being biased to think that Trump is a moron, a liar, and has very little moral conscience?

1 minute ago, candide said:

Frankly, is it being biased to think that Trump is a moron, a liar, and has very little moral conscience?

I think ignoramus rather than moron. And he is a huckster of genius.

If you want to see the close correlation and cooperation between the Trump Admin and Fox News, you need only look to Trump's recent pick earlier this month for his latest new WH Communications Director. Like Fox, Shine is a living walking example of political bias in a supposed news organization.

 

 

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Bill Shine (born July 4, 1963) is the current White House Deputy Chief of Staff for Communications in the administration of U.S. President Donald Trump.^[1][2][3] Most of his career was spent as a producer and executive at Fox News. Most recently, he was co-president of Fox News, a position he held for 9 months before he was forced out on May 1, 2017.

 

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Shine worked alongside of Fox chairman and chief executive officer Roger Ailes for two decades. After Ailes left Fox, the new executive chairman, Rupert Murdoch, named Shine and Jack Abernethy as co-presidents of Fox News in August 2016.^[23][24] Shine headed the network's news and programming operations.

Shine was named in at least four lawsuits against Fox alleging sexual harassment or racial discrimination by the company.^[25]

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Shine_(television_executive)

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

I think ignoramus rather than moron. And he is a huckster of genius.

A very stable huckster.

Trump Prayut same fight!

6 hours ago, TonyClifton said:

CNN has no right to be there.

I've read through 5 pages of comments and no one seems to caught a very important fact.

• "Collins wasn't just left in the room with Trump and Junker on behalf of CNN. She was the pool reporter on behalf of all the TV networks." (my bold)
• "These were questions from the TV pool reporter, which means this [barring Collins from Rose Garden event] is effectively an action taken against all the TV journalists covering the White House." - NBC Kasie Hunt.

https://money.cnn.com/2018/07/26/media/kaitlan-collins-white-house-rose-garden/index.html

Hence support from FOX to stand with CNN and all the other TV journalists being represented by Collins.

21 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

I think ignoramus rather than moron. And he is a huckster of genius.

To be honest and impartial, I recognise he is a very very good huckster.

7 hours ago, TonyClifton said:

Good. CNN has no right to be there. Press releases and press briefings are for the American People, not CNN or any other misbehaved misanthropic news non-reporter.

Sent from my Star Trek Communicator.
 

 

 

Tony, are you OK to tell us if you're an American citizen or speaking as an outsider meaning a non-citizen?

 

 

17 minutes ago, candide said:

To be honest and impartial, I recognise he is a very very good huckster.

 

 

He didn't fare so well with his selling steaks  through Sharper Image   but he had a great  excuse for that.

 

He seems skilled at offering  excuses.

41 minutes ago, riclag said:

"Sanders, in her own statement, defended the decision and claimed that Collins had “shouted questions and refused to leave despite repeatedly being asked to do so” at the end of the Oval Office event".

https://wtop.com/tv/2018/07/white-house-bars-cnn-correspondent-from-open-press-event/

"Despite what fake news CNN is saying, the exchange was chaotic, with Collins being the main disruptor. A visibly annoyed Trump was sitting adjacent to Junckter as Collins screamed asking the president, “Did Michael Cohen betray you?”

"President Trump has already responded to the leaked Cohen tape, and Collins surely knows that, her screaming the question was nothing more than activism, not reporting".

https://bigleaguepolitics.com/out-out-out-fake-news-cnn-reporter-banned-from-white-house/

 

She's a Reporter? I  would use that term loosely ! I've watched her performances in the WH press meetings! She ranks third to Jim Acosta and April Ryan as far as speaking out of turn , asking questions when not called on and screaming out questions after a press conference,while the vast majority of real reporters, act professional and courteous .Perhaps if she acted like the majority,she wouldn't of been shut out.

Even these guys

8 hours ago, TonyClifton said:

Good. CNN has no right to be there. Press releases and press briefings are for the American People, not CNN or any other misbehaved misanthropic news non-reporter.

Sent from my Star Trek Communicator.
 

So you're saying that it's ok for the Trump propagandist reporters to be there and not one of the world's most respected media outlets?

What on earth is happening in your country? (Besides likely chaos in the near future)

7 hours ago, stevenl said:

Which is related to excluding CNN how?

 

7 hours ago, stevenl said:

Which is related to excluding CNN how?

You'll get a sore jaw from too many tongue in cheek comments!!

Can't imagine Bill Shine getting a job anywhere but the TrumpWH? 

 

Of course, it was a female reporter who was dragged into the principal's office.

 

 

14 minutes ago, Jonnapat said:

So you're saying that it's ok for the Trump propagandist reporters to be there and not one of the world's most respected media outlets?

What on earth is happening in your country? (Besides likely chaos in the near future)

Media Meltdown!Some might say hysterical! She didn't get sidestepped for being cooperative ,quite the opposite

1 minute ago, riclag said:

Media Meltdown!Some might say hysterical! She didn't get sidestepped for being cooperative ,quite the opposite

What's hysterical is your Pavlovian urge to defend the indefensible when it comes to the man-child. Even Fox News condemns this action.

Care to comment on that?

6 minutes ago, riclag said:

What does the tariffs got to do with  the correspondent was excluded,topic!!

 

Somebody's Russian to English translator needs updating.

 

 

4 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

 

Somebody's Russian to English translator needs updating.

 

 

I have no idea what your talking about

28 minutes ago, riclag said:

I have no idea what your talking about

 

Well played.

 

 

3 hours ago, Srikcir said:

I've read through 5 pages of comments and no one seems to caught a very important fact.

• "Collins wasn't just left in the room with Trump and Junker on behalf of CNN. She was the pool reporter on behalf of all the TV networks." (my bold)
• "These were questions from the TV pool reporter, which means this [barring Collins from Rose Garden event] is effectively an action taken against all the TV journalists covering the White House." - NBC Kasie Hunt.

https://money.cnn.com/2018/07/26/media/kaitlan-collins-white-house-rose-garden/index.html

Hence support from FOX to stand with CNN and all the other TV journalists being represented by Collins.

Which is why all American journalists should show unity and make some protest at the next White House press conference.

 

For me, I think that they should all wear T- shirts with "Je Suis Charlie" emblazoned on the back and conduct the whole press conference with their backs to the podium.

1 hour ago, riclag said:

What does the tariffs got to do with  the correspondent was excluded,topic!!

Because it shows you're using a ludicrously biased source. 

And to prove that, here's a video link to Kaitlin Collins asking those questions. The loud shouting noise is not coming from her. Maybe you got confused by that.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4742140/kaitlan-collins-questions

 

 

1 hour ago, bristolboy said:

Because it shows you're using a ludicrously biased source. 

And to prove that, here's a video link to Kaitlin Collins asking those questions. The loud shouting noise is not coming from her. Maybe you got confused by that.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4742140/kaitlan-collins-questions

 

 

 

I guess that Trump, Sanders and riclag would call that fake news.

7 hours ago, sikishrory said:

You can't just hide behind a facade of being "open and free press" when it suits you. 

CNN are biased and have not stopped trying to discredit Trump since before he was even elected. 

open and free press likeTrump loves it 

"President Trump joked during the summit in Singapore this week that North Korean state TV was even more lavish in its praise for that country's leader than Fox News is for him—and that a news anchor who came up on screen while he watched should get a job on U.S. television. Trump really does seem to know the value of having a TV network that will never criticize him, and that has millions of fans whose very identities seem tied up in their viewership."

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a21552604/trump-fox-news-white-house-lawn/

The Trump-Fox News Feedback Loop Is Now Complete " 

Trump has lately evolved into a sort of de facto head of programming at Fox, calling hosts to praise their analysis or to suggest new messaging. “What he usually does is he’ll call after a show and say, ‘I really enjoyed that,’” one former Fox anchor said. “The highest compliment is, ‘I really learned something.’ Then you know he got a new policy idea.”

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/02/sean-hannity-donald-trump-nunes-memo

 

 

 

 

Edited July 26, 20188 yr by Opl

Off-topic posts, posts from an unreliable source and troll posts removed along with replies.   Stay on topic or face a suspension.  

 

17 hours ago, ehs818 said:

The US Constitution guarantees a free press. After all of his lies, and those of  his spokespeople, it's time for the entire WH Press Corps to BOYCOTT this administration. Ignore his statements and report about his lies. Where are his taxes? Let's see more stories on what he is doing that is inconsistent with his Constitutional Duties. Boycott this trash.

Please remember that while in theory the freedom of the press serves a purpose in a democratic society, that press as never before is now big business. The blood hounds in the WH press corps resemble little in the way of journalists. They are blood suckers looking for the story that will make the news cycle for the next 24 hours and thus insure viewership on the networks or readership of the newspapers,  making it possible to sell advertising and in the end profit for the news organization.  If the press corps boycotted the WH for a week, I think the American public would find it a relief.  Just think of a week without the crap. It would be like a vacation.  Trump should give us a week without tweets as well.

 

Honestly, I would be happy if the WH limited its press briefings to once a week and photo ops to just that, photos and no reporters. The issue at hand with this particular reporter seems she did overstep propriety and didn't seem to know how to tone it down a little.  I have often thought that when the press are allowed in to a meeting between two international leaders they should keep their questions relevant to the persons and subject at hand.  Reporters asking questions of Trump about Stormy Daniels, etc. when he is having a joint press conference with an international leader is just poor form if you ask me, and disrespectful of the other person.  It's plain rude.

1 hour ago, Trouble said:

Honestly, I would be happy if the WH limited its press briefings to once a week and photo ops to just that, photos and no reporters. The issue at hand with this particular reporter seems she did overstep propriety and didn't seem to know how to tone it down a little.  I have often thought that when the press are allowed in to a meeting between two international leaders they should keep their questions relevant to the persons and subject at hand.  Reporters asking questions of Trump about Stormy Daniels, etc. when he is having a joint press conference with an international leader is just poor form if you ask me, and disrespectful of the other person.  It's plain rude.

 

Thank you for laying out what YOU think the appropriate rules of journalistic conduct should be. I'm sure you have many years of experience in journalism and political public affairs as the basis for your opinions.

 

The bottom line here is, White House journalists are forced to shout questions and raise questions at other-topic events because leaders like Trump don't often hold general press conferences or other events where they can civilly be asked questions at large by various journalists.

 

And of course, Trump in particular doesn't want to expose himself to general questions because they would invariably tend toward issues about his lying, dealing with the Russians, extramarital affairs, etc etc. -- none of which he ever wants to talk about in any setting where he can be challenged.

 

So instead, he hides behind his Twitter account where it's a one-way conversation, where he can issue his partisan, inflammatory pronouncements and not have to answer for the things he's saying.  And amid all that, you want to blame journalists for being rude and disrespectful. Perhaps instead, you should be demanding better from your elected leaders.

 

The TDS is showing it's colors again. The reporter covering a meeting on trade between Europe and America chose to ask questions designed to embarass Trump, and which had nothing to do with the meeting topic.  A sensible reporter would have sought information of the meeting. Instead this lady, well known for her liberal leanings, sought to embarass the President before his counterpart. She was rightfully punished.

2 hours ago, Trouble said:

I have often thought that when the press are allowed in to a meeting between two international leaders they should keep their questions relevant to the persons and subject at hand

I'm inclined to agree with you on this point. Not very polite to ask embarrassing and unrelated questions in the company of a dignitary. Only proper to keep to matters of immediate relevance.

And what neither of you seem to understand is this same exact practice has been commonplace in covering the White House for years, through administrations of both parties. It's the way business is done in DC, and everyone involved understands that for the reasons I've explained above.

 

The only difference is, this Administration, feeling under siege and having no respect for the institutions of free speech and a free press, has decided to lash out and try to attack its critics -- this latest episode with the journalist, the recent talk about trying to strip various former intelligence officials of their security clearances, Trump's incessant efforts to try to de-legitimize the news media.

 

It's all part of an orchestrated campaign to try to insulate and protect Trump from anyone with influence who would dare to criticize him or call him to task for his misdeeds. It's the actions of an autocrat and a would-be dictator who's running the U.S.  And amid all that, you want to talk about the manners of the news media, when Trump is in the midst of selling out U.S. interests to Russia, cozying up to dictators, lying incessantly.

 

And your response to all that is -- the White House should have less media availability....  BTW, since he's been president or even before, since when has Trump been polite with anyone? 

32 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

And what neither of you seem to understand is this same exact practice has been commonplace in covering the White House for years, through administrations of both parties. It's the way business is done in DC, and everyone involved understands that for the reasons I've explained above.

 

If I am one of the people you are referring to as "neither of you", let me be clear. This is an opinion forum. I am merely stating my opinion about the decorum that I think should be exercised in a press briefing, past, present and future.

And let me be perfectly clear again. If you think that I am in any way defending this wannabe, autocratic, dictator, insecure whimp named Trump, you obviously have not read any of my many posts. The sooner he is ousted or better yet, tossed in jail, the happier I will be.