Samut Sakhon pub raided, 123 test positive for drugs

[rwdrwdrwd]

13 hours ago, Henrik Andersen said:

This can only come from a drug user 

harmless fun..... 

Overdose of fun 

As opposed to an underdose of life experience, and a propensity to judge others. I know which I'd prefer.

MDMA is decriminalised in plenty of very pleasant jurisdictions (Portugal, the Czech Republic, Spain, Italy, Uruguay among others), and undergoing medical trials in many more - the US might be next to approve it http://thescienceexplorer.com/brain-and-body/mdma-could-be-sold-legal-fda-approved-drug-just-5-years

[thai006]

what happened to the people who get positif about drug ? 

[Henrik Andersen]

9 hours ago, rwdrwdrwd said:

As opposed to an underdose of life experience, and a propensity to judge others. I know which I'd prefer.

MDMA is decriminalised in plenty of very pleasant jurisdictions (Portugal, the Czech Republic, Spain, Italy, Uruguay among others), and undergoing medical trials in many more - the US might be next to approve it http://thescienceexplorer.com/brain-and-body/mdma-could-be-sold-legal-fda-approved-drug-just-5-years

Nonsense it is not decriminalized in any counties only weed is 

 

[The manic]

10 hours ago, rwdrwdrwd said:

As opposed to an underdose of life experience, and a propensity to judge others. I know which I'd prefer.

MDMA is decriminalised in plenty of very pleasant jurisdictions (Portugal, the Czech Republic, Spain, Italy, Uruguay among others), and undergoing medical trials in many more - the US might be next to approve it http://thescienceexplorer.com/brain-and-body/mdma-could-be-sold-legal-fda-approved-drug-just-5-years

Good comment. The neurotic anti drug brigade are more deluded than recreational drug users. They are ill informed, deluded hypocrites, high on their own virtuous opinions. They perpetuate a broken system by their ignorance. Non of them are concerned with harm reduction just hate promotion. Legalisation, taxation, and education is the way forward.  Prohibition,  supported by morons, criminals and hypocrites leads to police corruption, the destruction of trust in the police, the peversion of the legal system, the undermining of families and communities and a whole host of detrimental effects. The war on drugs is a war on people.

[The manic]

On 8/13/2018 at 1:34 PM, Henrik Andersen said:

The owner knows, mostly when people use drugs and dance they drinking water or soda and, it is still up to the owner to control his customers 

So if people dont consume the drug alcohol they they are assumed to be criminals! What a bizarre idea. But most anti drug campaigners are equally deluded and out of touch with reality and tainted with a cruel judgementalism which might make them feel better about themselves and their flawed personality.

[rwdrwdrwd]

1 hour ago, Henrik Andersen said:

Nonsense it is not decriminalized in any counties only weed is 

 

You have no idea what you are talking about. Why do you even bother commenting without ensuring your blinkered view is correct? It's literally a a 1 minute google search to prove you are wrong.

Firstly, "decriminalization" means "not sanctioned under criminal law" - It does not mean "legal", civil penalties can still be in levied, but not criminal penalties. "Civil penalties" means fines or behavioral orders, never "prison" and nothing that leads to a "criminal record".

1. Portugal decriminalized the possession of small amounts for personal use of ANY drug in 2001
2. Uruguay never previously criminalized it, but 'expressly' decriminalized the possession of small amounts for personal use of ANY drug in 1974
3. Ecuador decriminalized the possession of small amounts for personal use of ANY drug in 2013
4. Mexico decriminalized the possession of small amounts for personal use of ANY drug in 2009

5. Spain decriminalized the possession of small amounts for personal use of ANY drug in 2015

6. Italy decriminalized the possession of small amounts for personal use of ANY drug in 1990

7. Brazil decriminalized the possession of small amounts for personal use of ANY drug in 2006

8. Norway's parliament voted to decriminalize possession of small amounts for personal of ANY drug in 2017

9. In 2009 the Argentine Supreme court ruled it was "unconstitutional to prosecute citizens for having drugs for their personal use - 'adults should be free to make lifestyle decisions without the intervention of the state'"

10. In 1994 the German Federal Constitutional Court ruled that drug addiction was not a crime, nor was the possession of small amounts of drugs for personal use.

Free bit of advice - when you suspect another person is talking nonsense, it's a good idea to verify that is the case before stating it.

[The manic]

27 minutes ago, rwdrwdrwd said:

You have no idea what you are talking about. Why do you even bother commenting without ensuring your blinkered view is correct? It's literally a a 1 minute google search to prove you are wrong.

Firstly, "decriminalization" means "not sanctioned under criminal law" - It does not mean "legal", civil penalties can still be in levied, but not criminal penalties. "Civil penalties" means fines or behavioral orders, never "prison" and nothing that leads to a "criminal record".

1. Portugal decriminalized the possession of small amounts for personal use of ANY drug in 2001
2. Uruguay never previously criminalized it, but 'expressly' decriminalized the possession of small amounts for personal use of ANY drug in 1974
3. Ecuador decriminalized the possession of small amounts for personal use of ANY drug in 2013
4. Mexico decriminalized the possession of small amounts for personal use of ANY drug in 2009

5. Spain decriminalized the possession of small amounts for personal use of ANY drug in 2015

6. Italy decriminalized the possession of small amounts for personal use of ANY drug in 1990

7. Brazil decriminalized the possession of small amounts for personal use of ANY drug in 2006

8. Norway's parliament voted to decriminalize possession of small amounts for personal of ANY drug in 2017

9. In 2009 the Argentine Supreme court ruled it was "unconstitutional to prosecute citizens for having drugs for their personal use - 'adults should be free to make lifestyle decisions without the intervention of the state'"

10. In 1994 the German Federal Constitutional Court ruled that drug addiction was not a crime, nor was the possession of small amounts of drugs for personal use.

Free bit of advice - when you suspect another person is talking nonsense, it's a good idea to verify that is the case before stating it.

The anti drug loonies are more deluded than any recreational drug user and thus high on their own bigotry are immune to logic or facts. They peddle hate and ignorance. 

[rwdrwdrwd]

1 minute ago, The manic said:

The anti drug loonies are more deluded than any recreational drug user and thus high on their own bigotry are immune to logic or facts. They peddle hate and ignorance. 

 

 

[rwdrwdrwd]

17 minutes ago, The manic said:

The anti drug loonies are more deluded than any recreational drug user and thus high on their own bigotry are immune to logic or facts. They peddle hate and ignorance. 

They are also, ironically, often the root cause of serious substance abuse (as opposed to recreational use) in youngsters. They often raise children in an environment where it is repeatedly emphasized simply that "drugs are bad", no analysis or explanations of the shades of grey, drugs are all bad and they are all just as bad as each other. Often when their kids encounter weed through their peers as young adults (which is inevitable) and discover that none of the horror stories appear to be true, they quickly and eagerly shift on to much harder drugs without any sense of moderation or consideration - after all, they have been taught that drugs are all bad and all the same, and yet weed seemed fine after all, smack is probably fine too.

Have literally seen this happen to kids I knew growing up, it was, without exception, either the children that basically had received no parenting whatsoever or those came from very strict authoritarian homes that ended up as people with very serious addiction issues - injecting heroin and smoking crack by the age of 20, a number of them now dead, some in their early 20s.

[Henrik Andersen]

2 hours ago, The manic said:

So if people dont consume the drug alcohol they they are assumed to be criminals! What a bizarre idea. But most anti drug campaigners are equally deluded and out of touch with reality and tainted with a cruel judgementalism which might make them feel better about themselves and their flawed personality.

deluded and out of touch with reality 

sorry but it can only come from drug lovers 

In the reality drugs make people addicted and for meny people it ruins they lives and the family too 

 

[The manic]

15 minutes ago, Henrik Andersen said:

deluded and out of touch with reality 

sorry but it can only come from drug lovers 

In the reality drugs make people addicted and for meny people it ruins they lives and the family too 

 

Propaganda fed to the gullible and preached by self righteous  bigots who have no concern for harm reduction.  The main proponents of the anti drug laws are criminals, lazy cops, the ignorant and puritanical zealots. Hundreds of thousands of people in Europe use recreational drugs after work or at the weekend. They come from all walks of life and many different backgrounds including, doctors, lawers, construction workers, media people, IT workers etc. The damage to them is caused by ill informed bigots and the legal system. Most civilised countries know that deciminalation is the route to harm reduction. But the enraged anti drug bandwagon have no interest in harm reduction but instead spread hate,fear and lies to make them feel better about themselves. If somebody has a genuine problem they need help not persecution. 99% of drug users lead normal lives and they should not be persecuted either. FYI it's freedom of choice I love not drugs. I do not use drugs. Gave up 30 years ago but I know that the war on drugs is a bulls**t waste of time and usually is a war on the most vulnerable members of society.

[rwdrwdrwd]

10 hours ago, Henrik Andersen said:

deluded and out of touch with reality 

sorry but it can only come from drug lovers 

 In the reality drugs make people addicted and for meny people it ruins they lives and the family too   

Just like smoking, alcohol, and sugar.

Perhaps society should aim to educate people how to research, judge based upon evidence, and (should they choose to partake in any of the myriad of unhealthy activities, legal or not, that exist) consciously moderate their intake of them or exposure to them. Much more effective than attempting to "ban everything" - an authoritarian approach that never has, and never will, work.

Thankfully the world is quickly changing, and society is increasingly recognising the right of individuals to make their own choices in life. It's a shame the modern world has left you behind.

The only deluded and out of touch person in this discussion is you, demonstrated by your earlier knee-jerk and entirely factually incorrect statement.

I look forward with bated breath to your next pathetic, badly phrased, barely considered and bizarrely formatted dismissive rebuttal.

[The manic]

37 minutes ago, rwdrwdrwd said:

Just like smoking, alcohol, and sugar.

Perhaps society should aim to educate people how to research, judge based upon evidence, and (should they choose to partake in any of the myriad of unhealthy activities, legal or not, that exist) consciously moderate their intake of them or exposure to them. Much more effective than attempting to "ban everything" - an authoritarian approach that never has, and never will, work.

Thankfully the world is quickly changing, and society is increasingly recognising the right of individuals to make their own choices in life. It's a shame the modern world has left you behind.

The only deluded and out of touch person in this discussion is you, demonstrated by your earlier knee-jerk and entirely factually incorrect statement.

I look forward with bated breath to your next pathetic, badly phrased, barely considered and bizarrely formatted dismissive rebuttal.

Well said. Absolutely sound view point.