Bangkok Bombing Trial Remains Stalled 3 Years On

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Bangkok Bombing Trial Remains Stalled 3 Years On

By Jintamas Saksornchai, Staff Reporter

 

A powerful blast left a scene of devastation and killed 20 people Aug. 17, 2015, at Bangkok's Erawan Shrine. More than 100 were injured.

 

BANGKOK — Three years to the day after a deadly terror attack hit the heart of cosmopolitan Bangkok, the trial of two men accused of the crime has made little progress, with only eight witnesses of hundreds of planned witnesses taking the stand.

 

Justice has progressed slowly for the case against Adem Karadag and Yusufu Mieraili, two Chinese ethnic Uighurs accused of planting a bomb that exploded in the Erawan Shrine on August 17, 2015, killing 20 and injuring dozens of mostly Chinese visitors during peak evening hours.

 

Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/featured/2018/08/17/bangkok-bombing-trial-remains-stalled-3-years-on/

 

-- © Copyright Khaosod English 2018-08-17

[canopus1969]

So the question is, what are the authorities trying to cover up 

[off road pat]

17 minutes ago, canopus1969 said:

So the question is, what are the authorities trying to cover up 

The fact that there were something like a dozen cameras at the premisses and most were dummies or not working !?!?

Edited August 17, 2018 by off road pat

[NonthaburiBear]

scapegoat maybe ?

[PatOngo]

Talk to Sek Loso, he reckons he knows who did it.

[johng]

Maybe they are still looking for a translator after the first one was arrested ?

[Oziex1]

We all posted at the time our suspicions on the arrests, and then there was the intrepid RTP paying themselves the reward money!

 

Did it themselves to distract from something or other. there were a few other blasts around the same time.

[kotsak]

[DoctorG]

Justice delayed is justice denied.

[lamyai3]

Quelle surprise... 

[eggers]

What's the delay in conducting the trial?

Incompetence or cover up??

Maybe both!!

The article gives no details or reasons, usual un-informed reporting!! 

Journalists might as well not bother at all..... 

Edited August 18, 2018 by eggers

[Samui Bodoh]

"...Thai authorities struggled with framing an attack that targeted tourists, threatening a vital economic engine. Investigators refused to use the word terrorism and never adequately explained the motivation, dismissing it as the work of criminals angry with their crackdown on human trafficking.

Most analysts concluded the attack was the work of Uighur militants in revenge for the military government’s forcible return several months earlier of more than 100 Uighurs to China against their will..."

 

I suspect that the above is the problem; Thailand does not want to admit to terrorism on its soil due to concerns that it might affect tourism numbers. Further, Thailand doesn't want to label the Uiger's cause as terrorism as that might lend some legitimacy to their claims and anger China. At the moment Thailand is wholly dependent (economically) on China allowing its citizens to visit Thailand; if China closed the tourism feeder tube, even for a short time, the effects on Thailand's economy would be horrendous (see China's recent closure of its citizens visiting S Korea and the economic effects of that action).

 

Soooo, no one in Thailand will admit to the true reasons for the crime, but still have to prosecute it anyway.

 

Any one remember the board game 'Twister'?

 

Edited August 18, 2018 by Samui Bodoh
Lack of coffee

[Emster23]

17 hours ago, canopus1969 said:

So the question is, what are the authorities trying to cover up 

If you want a shorter answer, might ask "What aren't authorities trying to cover up?"

[lvr181]

18 hours ago, canopus1969 said:

So the question is, what are the authorities trying to cover up 

Nah, it is more important to deal with kids and public affection. 

[peperobi]

Many peoples are probably not very interesting to find out the truth!

[lvr181]

17 hours ago, off road pat said:

and most were dummies or not working !?!?

Nearly correct - I would have reworded that and said that the dummies (not cameras) are now not working. ?

[Loaded]

The bomb was part of an internal conflict. The erawan shrine was destroyed once before while shinwatra was pm. It controls Thailand's astrological destiny.

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[connda]

No concept of a 'right to a speedy trial' her in the LOS.

[Cadbury]

18 hours ago, canopus1969 said:

So the question is, what are the authorities trying to cover up 

My theory is this.

The RTP initially claimed the bombers had fled the country. They then decided to offer US$84,000 reward for their capture. Having set the reward in place they then hatched a plan to their greedy hands on the reward for  themselves. That meant they had to make a quick arrest and find some likely non-Thai villains and put them in the frame. Job done.

After paying themselves the reward money they left the prisoners to rot in jail without having the evidence to convict them; and that is where they still sit.

[Khun Paul]

50 minutes ago, peperobi said:

Many peoples are probably not very interesting to find out the truth!

Sadly that is more like the truth, many do not care, life has moved on and Thais despite their claim, do not want to upset anyone, especially the Chinese and as the so-called perpetrators are from a minority which are also being hounded by the Chinese Government, they are in fact non-persons in the eyes of Thai Authorities, they treat them the same as Myanmar refugees, with scant regard. least said soonest mended. RTP happy , they got the cash, Government happy, they are seen as good guys. JUSTICE takes a back seat, which here seems to be more normal than most realise . 

[anon537687643]

I’m sure the Thai judiciary will find guilty whoever is put before it!


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[mike324]

25 minutes ago, Cadbury said:

My theory is this.

The RTP initially claimed the bombers had fled the country. They then decided to offer US$84,000 reward for their capture. Having set the reward in place they then hatched a plan to their greedy hands on the reward for  themselves. That meant they had to make a quick arrest and find some likely non-Thai villains and put them in the frame. Job done.

After paying themselves the reward money they left the prisoners to rot in jail without having the evidence to convict them; and that is where they still sit.

 

Thats chump change if you know how much more they get from other channels. Its just smokes and mirrors.

 

I think its either really terrorism due to the deportation of Uygurs, or its political reasons for a certain group to stay in power longer in Thailand. I believe its a mix between the 1st and 2nd, 1st is reasons due to China or influences by China to make the Uyghurs look bad and dangerous, set up or not we would never know. China is going great lengths to achieve what they want and get what they want around the world. Given how corrupt Thailand is, the 2nd reason comes in play, those who want to hold on to power.

[RT555]

If my family was on of the 20 killed... I would be asking and protesting some SERIOUS QUESTIONS. 

But then it most likely isn't anyones family from the Thai Government. 

 

Edited August 18, 2018 by RT555

[BigC]

Death penalty and hurry up

 

[Krataiboy]

“It’s because the military court system is different from normal ones" . . . 

 

Tell us about it - not to mention the many Thais who have been through the experience since the brasshats seized power.

 

A couple of questions come to mind:

 

1 If the accused men are (eventually) found innocent, will they be financially compensated for their years of incarceration? 2 And if freed,  will they be deported into the hands of a Chinese regime which is ruthlessy dissidents among the Uighuir minority?

 

Unfortunately, I suspect we and they already know the answers.

[Redline]

I think they are waiting until the suspects commit “suicide”.

[micmichd]

4 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said:

"...Thai authorities struggled with framing an attack that targeted tourists, threatening a vital economic engine. Investigators refused to use the word terrorism and never adequately explained the motivation, dismissing it as the work of criminals angry with their crackdown on human trafficking.

Most analysts concluded the attack was the work of Uighur militants in revenge for the military government’s forcible return several months earlier of more than 100 Uighurs to China against their will..."

 

I suspect that the above is the problem; Thailand does not want to admit to terrorism on its soil due to concerns that it might affect tourism numbers. Further, Thailand doesn't want to label the Uiger's cause as terrorism as that might lend some legitimacy to their claims and anger China. At the moment Thailand is wholly dependent (economically) on China allowing its citizens to visit Thailand; if China closed the tourism feeder tube, even for a short time, the effects on Thailand's economy would be horrendous (see China's recent closure of its citizens visiting S Korea and the economic effects of that action).

 

Soooo, no one in Thailand will admit to the true reasons for the crime, but still have to prosecute it anyway.

 

Any one remember the board game 'Twister'?

 

Maybe the label "terrorism" isn't appropriate for anything. 

One side's "terrorist" is the other side's freedom fighter, and Thailand is neutral.

[Get Real]

6 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said:

"...Thai authorities struggled with framing an attack that targeted tourists, threatening a vital economic engine. Investigators refused to use the word terrorism and never adequately explained the motivation, dismissing it as the work of criminals angry with their crackdown on human trafficking.

Most analysts concluded the attack was the work of Uighur militants in revenge for the military government’s forcible return several months earlier of more than 100 Uighurs to China against their will..."

 

I suspect that the above is the problem; Thailand does not want to admit to terrorism on its soil due to concerns that it might affect tourism numbers. Further, Thailand doesn't want to label the Uiger's cause as terrorism as that might lend some legitimacy to their claims and anger China. At the moment Thailand is wholly dependent (economically) on China allowing its citizens to visit Thailand; if China closed the tourism feeder tube, even for a short time, the effects on Thailand's economy would be horrendous (see China's recent closure of its citizens visiting S Korea and the economic effects of that action).

 

Soooo, no one in Thailand will admit to the true reasons for the crime, but still have to prosecute it anyway.

 

Any one remember the board game 'Twister'?

 

Really good and well thought of conclusion. 

[wvavin]

You should know what you would be getting if there is anything that happened in this country. Is this still considered a news?

[IAMHERE]

Does the skytrain travel nearly over the Erewan Shrine on the route between Nana and MBK ?