Students ask Prayut to cancel student conduct regulations

[snoop1130]

Students ask Prayut to cancel student conduct regulations

By The Nation

 

Photo credit FB : Sa-nguan Khumrungroj

 

The Student Union of Thailand has called on junta leader PM General Prayut Chan-o-cha to cancel the controversial regulations controlling student conduct.

 

Citing a serious infringement on privacy and their rights to political expression, the union, led by activist Parit “Penguin” Chiwarak, submitted a letter asking the Education Ministry to cancel the plan on Friday. They carried banners saying “Stop taking away our freedom!”

 

The Cabinet had approved the Education Ministry’s revamp of the regulations on August 14, which prohibits students from public assembly that may cause disorder or are against good morals. It also bans inappropriate acts of affection, as well as acts that cause public nuisance. Violators would receive warnings, have their holistic points taken off, or undergo behavioural changing activities.

 

Once published in the Royal Gazette, the regulation will be fully enforced. 

 

The union found the prohibition of public gathering too broadly defined and may be aimed at taking away their freedom to express political ideas or organise political rallies. 

 

“What if public gatherings are interpreted to include expression of [political] ideas, how can students like us express our opinions about the government and the Education Ministry?” asked Parit. “We want the regulation cancelled and students’ rights protected,” he said.

 

Education Ministry spokesperson Karun Sakulpradit promised the regulation would never be used for political ends. 

 

He said public gatherings in the regulation did not include political expressions or actions, but target students engaged in brawls, speed racing and drugs. 

 

“The regulation will not be twisted [to achieve political purposes]. It is not a political agenda,” he confirmed.

 

Education Minister Dr Teerakiat Jareonsettasin gave assurances the new regulations were not a political move. The regulations needed to be revised in line with modern society, he said.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30352395

 

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[holy cow cm]

Violators would receive warnings, have their holistic points taken off, or undergo behavioural changing activities. 

What they are doing now will incite a behavioral change to revolt in the young students generation. And honestly, if my kids swung in an anti push back, I would support them to do so. This old fart junta better watch out. 

[Justgrazing]

28 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

led by activist Parit “Penguin” Chiwarak, 

" Penguin " hahaha .. They do love a daft nickname over 'ere .. 

[The Deerhunter]

16 minutes ago, holy cow cm said:

Violators would receive warnings, have their holistic points taken off, or undergo behavioural changing activities. 

What they are doing now will incite a behavioral change to revolt in the young students generation. And honestly, if my kids swung in an anti push back, I would support them to do so. This old fart junta better watch out. 

Yes.  We dont want them understanding too much about democratic rights.  That woul]d not be in public interest. I full understand the P.M.  He has a lot on his hands, fixing the country's traffic problems in 3 months and curing lower class poverty in 6 months.   It is a good thing we all now understand that the whole object of the regulations are just to stop them brawling and that they will never be perverted to political purposes. These ideas were very clearly described in a book written in 1948 by a chap George, "someone or other."

[kannot]

students  caused  all the trouble last time didnt  they..............Prayuth WATCH OUT

[kannot]

Just now, The Deerhunter said:

Yes.  We dont want them understanding too much about democratic rights.  That woul]d not be in public interest. I full understand the P.M.  He has a lot on his hands, fixing the country's traffic problems in 3 months and curing lower class poverty in 6 months.   It is a good thing we all now understand that the whole object of the regulations are just to stop them brawling and that they will never be perverted to political purposes. These ideas were very clearly described in a book written in 1948 by a chap George, "someone or other."

u forgot the  flooding.................

[rkidlad]

To which Prayut replied, “what do you think this is, a democracy?” 

 

Sadly, many people only take notice of injustices when it happens to them. It’s called the selfish gene. 

[Samui Bodoh]

This is all part of the Junta's Fun-Sucking agenda of control; on an almost daily basis there is a new rule, regulation, guideline, etc whereby Thais are being ordered how to behave.

 

"...The union found the prohibition of public gathering too broadly defined and may be aimed at taking away their freedom to express political ideas or organise political rallies. .."

 

Of course it is designed to take away the right of student protest; that is a threat to the Junta's reign. Yes, the prohibitions against sex get the headlines, but it is the removal of the freedom to demonstrate which is the aim.

 

"...Education Ministry spokesperson Karun Sakulpradit promised the regulation would never be used for political ends. 

He said public gatherings in the regulation did not include political expressions or actions, but target students engaged in brawls, speed racing and drugs. 

“The regulation will not be twisted [to achieve political purposes]. It is not a political agenda,” he confirmed..."

 

"It is not a political agenda". Hmm... 

 

Well, if you cannot trust the word of a Thai State Official, who can you trust?

 

This is a sad time to observe events in Thailand. Thais are like the proverbial frog in the pan of cool water, but whose temperature is starting to rise and eventually will boil the life out of them.

 

Thai people are generally good people and deserve better than this.

 

[Prairieboy]

It is probably a bad idea to upset the students (read 'New Voters') a few months before an election.  Historically students have effected changes to various political systems in several areas around the world.

[yellowboat]

10 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

“What if public gatherings are interpreted to include expression of [political] ideas, how can students like us express our opinions about the government and the Education Ministry?” asked Parit. “We want the regulation cancelled and students’ rights protected,” he said.

You tell him kids and don't back down.  They cannot be trusted nor should there even be trust, but the right of expression, which is not very popular with the current government.   The junta is twisted and is already twisting things by appointing MP's and allowing those friendly to their cause to engage in political activities.   If you do not stand up for yourselves, your futures will be far less prosperous

[pattayadgw]

just another nail in the coffin for 'FREEDOM' in LOS

[Number 6]

China social credit system is coming. China will manufacture and finance the gear. The junta will put the nation on the hook.

 

If the election doesn't happen and the junta remains in place, even with bogus election. Freedom and democracy are doomed. Once all the control is in place the real theft will begin.

 

Between the modernizing of the nation's infrastructure, Thailand 4.0, the atrocious education system, graduates with no direction and nation not pointed to STEM, the endemic corruption which will become institutionalized like the Philippines. Lack of opportunities for poor to middle class. The plastic, environment, resources... The nation is doomed.

 

The decent may be even more rapid when EM markets start coming unglued and we find out how much debt is held in dollars and what sort of npl are on bank books.

 

The model is China not Norway.

[worgeordie]

" are against good morals. It also bans inappropriate acts of affection, as well as acts that cause public nuisance"  Politicians telling others to have good morals !, really this must be the height of hypocrisy,

kissing on the cheeks or hugging someone,that is against the law ! you would have thought more

affection,caring,and love are what the World needs,these are the laws of  Isis.Thailand is hurtling

down the road to insanity.

regards worgeordie

[Lungstib]

Here we have the 'almost adults', students who have profited from 14 years of Thai education, young people who are considered old enough to make the decision to marry and have children, boys who are old enough to be asked to join the military and fight for their country, and they treat them like 10 year olds. These rules are an insult to young people who have worked to defeat the odds and try to have some influence over the direction this country takes. The fact that almost all males, all over 55 and nearly all with military training think they are the moral arbitrators of this country shows how far Thailand has strayed from anything like democratic governance.

[Number 6]

It has nothing to do with morality and everything to do with control. Quite Orwellian...

 

prohibits students from public assembly that may cause disorder

 

bans inappropriate acts that cause public nuisance.

 

Violators would have their holistic points taken off, - China Social Credit

 

undergobehavioural changing activities - RE-EDUCATION camp

 

 

[mikebell]

Do as I say; not as I do.

[sammieuk1]

Looks like the boys outnumber the girls in this protest for some reason?

[lvr181]

12 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Education Ministry spokesperson Karun Sakulpradit promised the regulation would never be used for political ends. 

And Earth is flat. 

[Hayduke]

 

Ah…we have the 'indecency personified' General lecturing young people on the meaning of ‘indecency’. What an absolutely perfect example of obscene irony and transcendent hypocrisy.

 

 

Edited August 18, 2018 by Hayduke

[saminoz]

Just more ineffective bullsh1t from the silly little general and his countless drones.

"public gatherings in the regulation did not include political expressions or actions, but target students engaged in brawls, speed racing and drugs."

Surely, the brawling, speed racing and drug use are already covered by existing laws?  If that is the case (and we know it is) then the only purpose of this draconian crap is exactly to defeat any potential expressions of political dissent!

It is almost funny that the same people moralising and trying to stop these students having a snog in public are probably the self same pervs who then go to karaoke bars to screw the underage hostesses, many of whom will be students trying to make a buck or two for the next generation smart phone!

This is another ridiculous layer of barely enforceable legislation on top of multiple other layers that they either can not, will not or don't want to enforce.

[nikmar]

".....behaviour changing activities...." 

 

Dear Christ.

[jenny2017]

 

       Insanity pure. Get rid of the junta now!

[holy cow cm]

2 hours ago, Number 6 said:

China social credit system is coming. China will manufacture and finance the gear. The junta will put the nation on the hook.

 

If the election doesn't happen and the junta remains in place, even with bogus election. Freedom and democracy are doomed. Once all the control is in place the real theft will begin.

 

Between the modernizing of the nation's infrastructure, Thailand 4.0, the atrocious education system, graduates with no direction and nation not pointed to STEM, the endemic corruption which will become institutionalized like the Philippines. Lack of opportunities for poor to middle class. The plastic, environment, resources... The nation is doomed.

 

The decent may be even more rapid when EM markets start coming unglued and we find out how much debt is held in dollars and what sort of npl are on bank books.

 

The model is China not Norway.

It is absolutely going the communist way. 

[connda]

13 hours ago, holy cow cm said:

Violators would receive warnings, have their holistic points taken off, or undergo behavioural changing activities. 

What they are doing now will incite a behavioral change to revolt in the young students generation. And honestly, if my kids swung in an anti push back, I would support them to do so. This old fart junta better watch out. 

These student will eventually become a voting block in the future.  Can you imagine a generation of disenfranchised students who have been squashed beneath the thumb of an authoritarian regime?  Eventually the graduates become adult members of society and start working towards the exact opposite of the type of ruling class that took away their basic rights of expression and association when they were students.  And the current regime thinks that Taksin and the Red Shirts posed a problem?  Just wait 5 year to a decade. 

Edited August 18, 2018 by connda

[connda]

3 hours ago, pattayadgw said:

just another nail in the coffin for 'FREEDOM' in LOS

Actually I think it's more like shaking a bottle of soda water then pounding a cock in the top with a hammer.  Most Westerners can immediately see how that would work out; most reactionary Thais, such as a narrow-minded, authoritarian military class, cannot. 
Over time, the results of this action will be the antithesis of what they expected. 

Edited August 18, 2018 by connda

[holy cow cm]

7 minutes ago, connda said:

These student will eventually become a voting block in the future.  Can you imagine a generation of disenfranchised students who have been squashed beneath the thumb of an authoritarian regime?  Eventually the graduates become adult members of society and start working towards the exact opposite of the type of ruling class that took away their basic rights of expression and association when they were students.  And the current regime thinks that Taksin and the Red Shirts posed a problem?  Just wait 5 year to a decade. 

But once the Junta is fully dug in like how China has done, no one can do anything about it.

[AGareth2]

13 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

or undergo behavioural changing activities.

attitude adjustment for children

[connda]

6 minutes ago, holy cow cm said:

But once the Junta is fully dug in like how China has done, no one can do anything about it.

I understand what you're saying, but TIT, which is to say "This ain't China."
Historically Thais eventually shake of the yolk of military rule. And I think this current myopic action by the junta will be adding fuel to the fire.
I'm being optimistic here, but I believe they are setting the stage for the rise of a civilian government in the future that will take steps to shackle the military's ability of ever stage another coup.  I could be wrong, but it will be interesting to watch it unfold.

Edited August 18, 2018 by connda

[robertthesculptor]

students smarter than old jealous men

[spidermike007]

Good on these students. Better yet? A nationwide protest by the students. If each and every student in the nation refused to attend school, until these draconian prohibitions were lifted, it would happen in a few days.

 

The goons in charge are focusing their efforts in all the wrong areas. They are trying to make Thailand a Quaker State. A land of purity. Total BS. Nonsense. Misplaced priorities, and wasted efforts. They should be focusing their efforts on traffic and public safety, easing import tariffs, making visa policy simpler, and more friendly, boosting Western tourism, real crackdowns on slavery, and illegal fishing instead of nonsensical hyperbole, cleaning up the water, the air, the rivers, and the beaches, and other things that actually improve lives.

 

Little P. Not making Thailand great again. And moving the nation backwards at an astonishing and alarming pace.