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3 army privates charged with assault for beating up colleague

 

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Three army privates were this morning escorted by their superior to Lop Buri Muang district police station to acknowledge the charge of assault against one of their colleagues who is now unconscious at an army hospital in the province.

 

The three alleged assailants reportedly admitted they attacked the victim, Pvt Kacha Pacha, because they disliked him.  But the victim’s father, Mr Komchan, doubted their claim, saying he would consult a lawyer to file more charges against them.

 

Earlier, Army Commander-in-Chief General Chalermchai Sitthisart said that the incident was a normal assault case and disciplinary action had already been taken against them by their superior.

 

Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/3-army-privates-charged-with-assault-for-beating-up-colleague/

 

 
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It is a principle all over the world that an officer is responsible for the actions of the troop(s) under his/her command.

 

Except, it seems, in Thailand.

 

Why is there no punishment mentioned for their commanding officer?

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, rooster59 said:

But the victim’s father, Mr Komchan, doubted their claim, saying he would consult a lawyer to file more charges against them.

Sounds like the boy's father is a bright man.  Perhaps his son was just too smart for the army.   Pleading with friends not to have their sons join the army.  

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1 hour ago, rooster59 said:

The three alleged assailants reportedly admitted they attacked the victim, Pvt Kacha Pacha, because they disliked him.

gang mentality; the way many young thai males behave

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And we are supposed to believe that these 3 young men under the care and observation of superior officers just took it into their head to get together and beat a fellow soldier senseless. Is this how the army works?

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2 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said:

It is a principle all over the world that an officer is responsible for the actions of the troop(s) under his/her command.

 

Except, it seems, in Thailand.

 

Why is there no punishment mentioned for their commanding officer?

 

 

 

 

Yes it is. But if a culture of leaving the soldiers to "sort things out by themselves" is allowed to develop, "what happens in the barrack room stays in the barrack room", this sort of thing is likely to happen.

 

It is a result of bad leadership.

 

41 minutes ago, Lungstib said:

And we are supposed to believe that these 3 young men under the care and observation of superior officers just took it into their head to get together and beat a fellow soldier senseless. Is this how the army works?

 

Again, if weak leadership and bored unoccupied conscript soldiers are the norm, then this is exactly what can happen.

 

The conscript Soviet Armies were notorious for it in the 1980s, they called it the "rule of the grandfather's".  Senior classes of conscript bullying, extorting and terrorising their juniors.

 

Judging by reports of phone calls ordering him to do press-ups when at home on leave, then this has been going on for some time.

 

My impression (from my stepson and wife's nephews) is that once they have completed a cursory basic training routine the troops, if not used as serveants for seniors are kept penned up in barracks with little to do. There is little training or coherent activity. The officers and NCOs have limited experience, and in the case of the officers seem to largely ignore their soldiers. Bored young men, unsupervised and with little to do - this is the result.

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5 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said:

It is a principle all over the world that an officer is responsible for the actions of the troop(s) under his/her command.

In the time I spent in the military I learn one thing - sh*t rolls down-hill.  Officers would get a piece of paper in their service jacket; enlisted would get NJP or a court-martial.  No difference here at all.

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Assault? Assault? Seems a pitiful charge for beating a fellow half to death. 

This smells very wrong. Are these taking the rap for some higher ups who don't want to be accountable for the brutality of the 'discipline'. A short sentence in a comfortable jail in exchange for money and promotions? Who knows, but for the army to say this is 'a normal assault case and disciplinary action has already been taken' implies that this case will never see the inside of a court room.

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5 hours ago, Lungstib said:

Is this how the army works?

Yes, summed up nicely ? the stronger better equipped beat the daylights out of the weaker! the weaker the better, makes the victory more rewarding, or so it appears in history ?

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6 hours ago, yellowboat said:

Sounds like the boy's father is a bright man.  Perhaps his son was just too smart for the army.   Pleading with friends not to have their sons join the army.  

That's just a nasty uncalled for comment. 

That boy is unconscious in a hospital after being beaten by 3 seniors. Pleading with friends to not let their son's join the army is a common conversation in Thailand. 

Should they all be beaten unconscious ?

Shut your trap lest it be your son that gets a good beating. 

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56 minutes ago, greenchair said:

That's just a nasty uncalled for comment. 

That boy is unconscious in a hospital after being beaten by 3 seniors. Pleading with friends to not let their son's join the army is a common conversation in Thailand. 

Should they all be beaten unconscious ?

Shut your trap lest it be your son that gets a good beating. 

Quite apart from the fact that your post does not seem to make any sense, I think that the "nasty uncalled for comment" in fact came only from you. 

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8 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said:

It is a principle all over the world that an officer is responsible for the actions of the troop(s) under his/her command.

 

Except, it seems, in Thailand.

 

Why is there no punishment mentioned for their commanding officer?

 

 

 

 

 

Because Thailand is not part of the Real World. And it is a place where no-one is ever responsible for anything.

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In the Australian Army 1960 at Kapooka this punishment by having people beat the recruit up when indicated by a PI or Officer was common.  Several onto one....sometimes one after another sometimes not.

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10 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said:

It is a principle all over the world that an officer is responsible for the actions of the troop(s) under his/her command.

 

Except, it seems, in Thailand.

 

Why is there no punishment mentioned for their commanding officer?

 

 

 

 

Because as you have stated THIS IS THAILAND

subordinates take the rap the "big fish go free"

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15 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said:

It is a principle all over the world that an officer is responsible for the actions of the troop(s) under his/her command.

 

Except, it seems, in Thailand.

 

Why is there no punishment mentioned for their commanding officer?

 

 

 

 

 

And why does this stuff keep happening?

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10 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

And why does this stuff keep happening?

"Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it." George Santayana  .   Routines just do not change in Thailand.  The country is in the same old funk, year after year, improving ever so slightly or not at all. 

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Punishments to army personal that are a crime under the criminal code should be transparent and a matter of public record. 

What is the punishment for 3 men beating 1 man to unconsciousness? 

20 sit ups? 

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