Prayut orders his Article 44 orders compiled, some to be made permanent laws

[rooster59]

Prayut orders his Article 44 orders compiled, some to be made permanent laws

By The Nation

 

Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha has apparently lost count of the orders he has issued as the chief of the National Council for Peace and Order as he instructed his legal arm to compile a list of them.

 

Deputy Prime Minister Wissanu Krea-ngam, the legal expert for the government and NCPO, said Prayut has instructed him to compile the list of orders issued under Article 44 of the interim charter.

 

Wissanu said he has assigned officials to compile the list for him to check.

 

Wissanu said General Prayut also wanted to upgrade some of the dictats to permanent laws while other orders would have to be annulled before the next elected government took office.

 

"Only necessary Article 44 orders will be retained. When the country returns to democracy, we'll see which Article 44 orders can be annulled and we will cancel them before that time," Wissanu said.

 

He added that orders that have expired would be left intact.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30353508

 

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2018-09-02

[gunderhill]

How  many  volumes does it run to??

[MrLuckyThailand]

We all must understand this. A man that has done so much good for Thailand in such a small amount of time, truly can´t have a single chance to remember everything.

Wait!.....just woke up....what a nightmare guys!

[bluesofa]

What about the sitting in the back of pick-ups, wasn't that Article 44? The following week it was cancelled, was that an Article 44 decree to over write the first one?

Would that make it contradictory?

 

[Samui Bodoh]

"...Wissanu said General Prayut also wanted to upgrade some of the dictats to permanent laws while other orders would have to be annulled before the next elected government took office..."

 

"...Which would have to be annulled before the next elected government took office..."

 

Hmm...

 

Or put another way, 'which laws have we abused for our own selfish purposes that we don't want used against us?'

 

Weapons-grade hypocrisy.

 

[Thailand]

Only to be used in the case of emergency by any unelected pm.

[colinneil]

Upset me,  i will spit out my dummy then use article 44 on you.

Take note peasants you have been warned, what a pathetic, insecure man he is.

[YetAnother]

1 hour ago, rooster59 said:

Wissanu said General Prayut also wanted to upgrade some of the dictats to permanent laws

laying the groundwork; betcha we will be looking at a flurry of new 44's just before power is ceded, of that ever happens

[Cadbury]

1 hour ago, rooster59 said:

Prayut orders his Article 44 orders compiled

Can we assume he has issued an Article 44 order for someone to count his unknown collection of previous Article 44 orders. This is shake the head stuff!

Sigmund Freud would have a field day with some of the people in this government.

 

[Oziex1]

Orders dictated by one man who took the country by coup will be included in the law when the country returns to democracy.

Hmm, I guess it's true foreigners just don't understand Thailand.

[Eligius]

Actually, if my memory serves me correctly, this is not really new: the 'Constitution' already has a clause that says that orders from the NCPO continue in force.

 

But in any case, look at the lunacy and double-speak of the whole matter: they speak of 'when the country returns to democracy', but already are insisting that some Section 44 laws will still be imposed (it won't be Mr. and Mrs. Somchai who get to vote on this).

 

If anyone believes that the junta are going to 'return the country to democracy', I've got a nice seaside villa to sell them - in Switzerland!

[Eligius]

And still the Thai people remain silent. Still they don't seem all that perturbed or bothered, let alone enraged.

 

One can only think that when the explosion of fury does finally erupt (as I believe it will), it will not be a pretty sight.

 

My guess, however, is that the junta are reckoning on only thousands of street protesters - not millions. They can handle thousands. They've done it before (in recent memory).

 

It's a doddle to them. Practice makes perfect. They will clamp down even harder next time. Bullets come cheap.

 

I've said for years now: the only way to unseat the junta powers is by millions-strong mass defiance (and I am not advocating violence here).

 

No sign of that happening. So the relatively few brave souls who will eventually stand up and say 'NO!' will be 'taken out' without mercy. 

[yellowboat]

The phrase "bend over Thailand" comes to mind.

 

Typical entitled FOP he forgot to write them down himself. 

[sammieuk1]

He could put it in a pipe and vape it for all I care?

[Vacuum]

Article 44 is chickenshit compared to "the war on drugs" that was introduced by your beloved leader and his pretty-face puppet.

Edited September 2, 2018 by Vacuum

[Lupatria]

45 minutes ago, Eligius said:

And still the Thai people remain silent. Still they don't seem all that perturbed or bothered, let alone enraged.

      

[Esso49]

3 hours ago, Cadbury said:

Can we assume he has issued an Article 44 order for someone to count his unknown collection of previous Article 44 orders. This is shake the head stuff!

Sigmund Freud would have a field day with some of the people in this government.

 

But unlike Sigmund Freud,  people in this government are not dead 

[jesimps]

8 minutes ago, Vacuum said:

Article 44 is chickenshit compared to "the war on drugs" that was introduced by your beloved leader and his pretty-face puppet.

But but Thaksin......

 

You must have dredged the archives to find that one. Anyway, can't see how you can compare a war on drugs by an elected PM, with what the junta's doing with article 44.

[jesimps]

36 minutes ago, sammieuk1 said:

He could put it in a pipe and vape it for all I care?

Vaping's illegal here ?

Edited September 2, 2018 by jesimps

[Small Joke]

5 minutes ago, jesimps said:

Vaping's illegal here ?

Cigarette lobby. 

No surprise, they literally don't care if you die, just don't hurt their bottom line on your way out. 

[Small Joke]

9 minutes ago, jesimps said:

But but Thaksin......

 

You must have dredged the archives to find that one. Anyway, can't see how you can compare a war on drugs by an elected PM, with what the junta's doing with article 44.

You do understand that people with no drug connections were gunned down in broad daylight? It could have been anyone of us with an evil grasping wife, or some mental neighbour, if that was allowed to go unchecked.  

"Yes officer Somchai, Khun Falang was dug addick, I made a citizens execution based on the good PMs exhortations,  here's the reefer we planted on his corpse,  oops, saw him trying to sell to a fictional 5 year old..." 

So. It's not about Thaksin so much as a modicum of death squad restraint... 

[nahkit]

34 minutes ago, Vacuum said:

Article 44 is chickenshit compared to "the war on drugs" that was introduced by your beloved leader and his pretty-face puppet.

The "war on drugs" took place in 2003.

 

Yingluck (presumably the "pretty-face puppet" you refer to) didn't get elected until 2011.

 

Never mind, don't let facts get in your way.

[Small Joke]

26 minutes ago, Esso49 said:

But unlike Sigmund Freud,  people in this government are not dead 

Yet.  

Not even the Junta live forever,  it just seems that way. 

[pornprong]

9 minutes ago, Small Joke said:

You do understand that people with no drug connections were gunned down in broad daylight? It could have been anyone of us with an evil grasping wife, or some mental neighbour, if that was allowed to go unchecked.  

"Yes officer Somchai, Khun Falang was dug addick, I made a citizens execution based on the good PMs exhortations,  here's the reefer we planted on his corpse,  oops, saw him trying to sell to a fictional 5 year old..." 

So. It's not about Thaksin so much as a modicum of death squad restraint... 

It is you that doesn't understand, perhaps you have underestimated what size joke you are.

 

https://asiancorrespondent.com/2007/08/2275-where-did-this-number-come-from/

[Eric Loh]

The Constitution  chapter 3 guarantee rights of the people and liberties. Article 44 abuses rights and liberties and should be outlawed. 

[pieeyed]

Democracy at it's best - not.

[Small Joke]

14 minutes ago, pornprong said:

It is you that doesn't understand, perhaps you have underestimated what size joke you are.

 

https://asiancorrespondent.com/2007/08/2275-where-did-this-number-come-from/

Be nice, or be banned. ?

Unlike some others,  I take time to listen to/read the argument. 

So we agree 'only' 72 were killed in two months -without a trial, and likely on the famed wafer thin RTP 'evidence'. 

So does that make me wrong,  or can we agree that the juntas manifold sins don't absolve the sins of other little Hitlers?

You pulled out some figures, but the true (and remember TiT) figure s STILL do not disprove the allegations, or my argument,  they  merely show that media were dishonest. Are we Surprised?  No. 

We're supposed to be on the same side in this discussion. 

 

Edited September 2, 2018 by Small Joke

[pornprong]

Just now, Small Joke said:

Be nice, or be banned. ?

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/ypve8y/what-it-is-about-authoritarianism-that-has-drawn-so-many-people-in

[yellowboat]

42 minutes ago, Vacuum said:

Article 44 is chickenshit compared to "the war on drugs" that was introduced by your beloved leader and his pretty-face puppet.

There are those who do not believe he was fully responsible for the war on drugs.  They say it was an elitist endeavor that he was forced to go along with.  If that were the case, A44 is not, as you so eloquently put it, "chickenshit".  Funny, though the war on drugs was awful, Thaksin was never charged for any of that.  The good general has full immunity in all that he does, rendering your argument somewhat pointless. Your good general has rigged the elections by use of appointed MP's and has continued to stifle campaigning so he can do it himself without competition.  A44 allows him to do this.  A44 is an abomination that Thaksin never needed.  He knew how to win.  Your good general does not know how to win in a fair election.  He probably has trouble tying his own shoe laces.  We know he cannot or will not debate and he hates being scrutinized.  As a leader, he is useless.

[Eligius]

54 minutes ago, Lupatria said:

      

And the death of democracy must be accompanied by the inevitable, infantile bells, boings, whoops and whistles!