What do they concider a criminal record enough to deny PR or Citizenship or Visa

[holy cow cm]

Read the other thread for criminal record application from a Poster and decided to open this question here. Just out of curiosity, what do they, the immigration in Thailand consider a crime being serious enough to not approve the PR or the Citizenship, or normal visa. 

 

Say like for: Being abroad if you get convicted drunk driving, or petty shop lifting, or busted for a marijuana joint, reckless driving like racing, trespassing, protesting, child support, assault, etc, 

 

And what about if you are convicted in Thailand: If say you get convicted: drunk driving, assault, defamation charge 1 or 2, or sleeping with a prostitute???? can't think of anything else they could get the normal foreigner for under a court conviction.

 

Do they let some go by and some no? Or up to them or no criminal conviction even if petty. I understand a major offense and jail time but what about the smaller things that had no jail time. 

 

Anyone who has went for a visa, or PR or citizenship and got denied for any reason? I would presume many foreigners could coming up in Thailand will be nabbed for defamation as the new government kicks in and tolerance hits bottom level. So how serious is say defamation for visa's here and then all the rest mentioned? Seems like something that can be big or small. 

[ubonjoe]

I guess a guideline might be this from section 12 of the immigration act.

 

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6. Having been imprisoned by the judgement of the Thai Court ; or by a lawful injunction ; or by
the judgement of the Court of foreign country , except when the penalty is foe petty offense or negligence
or is provided for as an exception in the Ministerial Regulations.

 

[holy cow cm]

23 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

I guess a guideline might be this from section 12 of the immigration act.

So what is a lawful injunction? Seems vague. 

 

[ubonjoe]

16 minutes ago, holy cow cm said:

So what is a lawful injunction? Seems vague. 

 

From Wiki. 

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An injunction is an equitable remedy in the form of a court order that compels a party to do or refrain from specific acts. A party that fails to comply with an injunction faces criminal or civil penalties, including possible monetary sanctions and even imprisonment.

You have to remember the act was written in Thai so injunction was was used as the best fit when it was translated to English.

[holy cow cm]

6 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

From Wiki. 

You have to remember the act was written in Thai so injunction was was used as the best fit when it was translated to English.

So that is meaning by breaking probation rules (injunction) and then go to jail. I wouldn't think it means having been given probation instead of jail?

 

Do you have the Thai version of the rule? I will for fun bring it up with one of my Thai friends for how it really reads. .

[ubonjoe]

6 minutes ago, holy cow cm said:

Do you have the Thai version of the rule?

You can find it here. Immigration Act B.E. 2522 Thai text

[holy cow cm]

35 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

You can find it here. Immigration Act B.E. 2522 Thai text

Ok. Thanks. 

[MadMuhammad]

The only thing I have first hand knowledge of is drink driving. A close friend was picked up during the initial heavy blitz they had sometime ago. 

 

The result was a day waiting at the provincial court to be heard and a 24000thb fine. 

 

He has had no further problems regarding that offence whatsoever. 

[jackdd]

9 minutes ago, MadMuhammad said:

The only thing I have first hand knowledge of is drink driving. A close friend was picked up during the initial heavy blitz they had sometime ago. 

 

The result was a day waiting at the provincial court to be heard and a 24000thb fine. 

 

He has had no further problems regarding that offence whatsoever. 

Did he get PR or citizenship after this?

[jossthaifarang]

Are they taking applications yet? They are extreemly vague with announcements, how can anyone ever apply if they dont know when they are taking applications? 

[ubonjoe]

7 minutes ago, jossthaifarang said:

Are they taking applications yet? They are extreemly vague with announcements, how can anyone ever apply if they dont know when they are taking applications? 

That is only for permanent residency applications. A person can always plan on applications being accepted sometime in December or sometimes a couple of months before then. The are normally announced on the immigration website (December 12th last year https://www.immigration.go.th/read?content_id=5a2f65816a9aa3c5de1b8498 ).

For citizenship they are accepted all the time if a person can qualify for the application.

[MadMuhammad]

3 hours ago, jackdd said:

Did he get PR or citizenship after this?

Sorry I was only relating to renewal of visas etc. I should have been more descriptive and maybe just shut my pie hole as I realise it doesn’t really address the matter of the OP, for which I apologise lol

[holy cow cm]

UBJ. The injunction only relates to being put in jail for breaking your waived sentence or failing to follow your probation on being a good boy or girl. Otherwise no time spent, no ban.

[unblocktheplanet]

On 9/12/2018 at 10:32 AM, ubonjoe said:

For citizenship they are accepted all the time if a person can qualify for the application.

Can you please refer us to the qualifications? TIA!

[ubonjoe]

31 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Can you please refer us to the qualifications? TIA!

Guidelines and documents required for application for Thai citizenship by naturalization 

More info can be found in this long ongoing topic. dbrenn's story of Thai citizenship application