Scott Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 There have been several suspicious deaths of conscripts over the past years. In your opinion does Thailand need to do more to protect conscripts from abuse? Please feel free to leave a comment. Here is a link to a recent thread which details the most recent and also past deaths: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 The deaths are a failure in leadership. What are military institutions without sound leadership ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samui Bodoh Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 "In your opinion does Thailand need to do more to protect conscripts from abuse?" Yes. Obviously. They do not deserve to die. What more needs to be said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damrongsak Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 My older son went through US Marine Corps boot camp training in the hottest part of the summer in South Carolina. On the final 24 hour ordeal, "The Crucible", he fell out from heat stroke. He subsequently made it, but after being hospitalized for several days. Very serious. Marathon runners have died from same, and no one was forcing them. Hyponatremia. My son was a volunteer. Most of the Thai guys are conscripts as I gather, so they have no choice. Lowest of the low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsiaHand Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 The problem is that there seems to be no control in the ranks to eliminate this because the government backs the military in it's denial of a problem.Just maybe there would be a wake up in the ranks if one of the recruits would do what that Marine trainee did in the movie "Full metal jacket" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossy Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Conscript deaths--A problem or not? I can hardly credit that TV has seen fit to feature this moronic question as a survey. What answers was the surveyor expecting, for heaven's sake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 16 minutes ago, AsiaHand said: the government backs the military in it's denial of a problem. Well, the government currently is the military. And when it's not, the military always holds the position of Defense Ministry in the Cabinet as well as the Permanent Secretary of Defense. Add to that the military will appoint the next Senate which will include seats for the members of the current junta for a five-year period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Well, especially because there is a draft here, the government obviously has a strong ethical obligation to do all they can to protect the lives of the young people in their charge. Nobody is expecting perfection or zero risk in anything in any country though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 It's the mentality of the guys doing the fighting that is the problem. It very quickly develops into 3 or 4 onto 1 as we all know combined with the 'don't know when to stop' mentality. That's something that can't be changed overnight, if ever. Start a fight, in my days in the army, and 99% of the time you were pulled apart and stuck in a boxing ring that evening to sort it, in training anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky mike Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Only cowards hunts in packs ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lawrence Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Just sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helloagain Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 They are your countries children Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Doesn't appear to be any problem for those in power, can we therefore assume "there is no problem?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauGR1 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Those deaths of young army conscripts are deplorable, that said, it seems to me that people are killing each other in reasonable numbers also outside army camps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Media1 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Big problem a dinasour army Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Depends on what you define as a problem. A few croaking out of 65M isn't a problem on a big scale, even if half were to kick the bucket this second, still no ploplem, probably an improvement. Unless it's about human rights or other such evil farang inventions. They don't do them here: https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2018/country-chapters/thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 On 9/16/2018 at 7:49 AM, yellowboat said: The deaths are a failure in leadership. What are military institutions without sound leadership ? Leaders of Government? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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