Alan Hogg hitman LAUGHS as cops are shown where Brit millionaire and his Thai wife were buried by her own brother

[Antonymous]

1 hour ago, hansnl said:

Or are you suggesting all Thai wives married to foreigners and those foreigners are in that categorie also?

And what category are you in? 

I think you must be replying to Neeranam's post that said it was only Sun readers and husbands of bar girls who should be worried about relatives in whose name assets are held who should be worried about being bumped off by said relatives. His comment was not only wrong in my opinion, but obviously wrong in the case of Alan Hogg and his wife too. Many people, whatever their reading habits and choice of partner, are probably concerned about this issue.

[webfact]

Family row blamed for murder of wealthy Briton and wife in Thailand

Relatives of Alan Hogg and Nott Suddaen say she was murdered after the relationship with her brother soured beyond repair

Hannah Ellis-Petersen in Phrae

 

The tension had been building for months, maybe years.

 

In the days before Alan Hogg, the wealthy Scottish businessman, and his Thai wife Nott, were killed and then buried in the garden of their home, relatives have revealed that the relationship between Nott and her brother Warut Satchakit, who has since been charged with the murders, had soured beyond repair.

 

For 20 years, Nott’s favourite older brother had lived in a house on her and her husband’s expansive property where he worked as the chief gardener, looking after the plants, the fruit orchard, the chickens and the 15 cows. According to numerous neighbours, Hogg and Satchaikit tended the 13-hectare plot of land side-by-side, though not always harmoniously.

 

But Nott’s and Satchakit’s youngest brother Thanom Suddan, 53, said Nott had been planning to kick her 63-year-old brother off the property, after the family conflict became too much.

 

Full story: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/27/briton-thailand-murder-alan-hogg-sibling-rift

 

-- The Guardian 2018-09-27

[MaxLee]

1 hour ago, worgeordie said:

Lets see if he is still laughing and having  a good time

after a few years behind bars,money and greed,results

in 5 lives destroyed.

regards worgeordie

 

He was smiling, because he knows somebody influential might bail him out in no time...

[lanista]

1 hour ago, Nice Boyd said:

Especially when most brothers are really husbands

  Yep !!   but you shouldnt say it because you'll upset farangs who think theyre genuinely married.

No farang  should ever put assets in a Thai's name .  Invest your money back home and always rent like ive done for years.

Youre just wasting money if you buy land in LOS. You dont legally own it!!!

 

I wouldnt be surprised at all if a deal is made involving alot of baht and one or two of the village monkeys go free.  It wont happen right now but later when the media loses interest.

 

[Antonymous]

According to the Grauniad article:

The Ford Ranger has become a Range Rover

The land is in the name of the daughter in the UK

The truck was sold by the accused brother for twice the amount reported elsewhere

What to believe?

[sweatalot]

I don't know what led to the family row. But I wouldn't be surprised if the cause for the row was that the victim's brother was demanding money or even part of the land. 

 

Hope he will get the appropriate punishment and Thai law will do the right thing this time.

[hotchilli]

Back room.... injection next case!

[holy cow cm]

33 minutes ago, HAKAPALITA said:

Where did he flaunt wealth. ? Hes the same as many an old retired ferang here. Rotting in the Jungle with a Ford Truck..

Hardly. Take a deeper look at what he had. 

[Chopperboy]

3 hours ago, Antonymous said:

From The Sun article:

 

"Detective’s said an issue that likely led to the murders was that Hogg would often buy assets using the names of his Thai family members, including his wife's brother, who allegedly wanted to sell some of those assets.

Because of laws on foreign ownership of land and companies, foreigners living in Thailand often have assets in the names of Thai relatives or associates."

 

This incident is terrible in every respect. The "issue" suspected by the detectives to be a motive will have many people worried.

More likely is that he put all the assets in the wifes name and SHE transferred to the elder brother. A younger sibling transferring to an older siling is a Thai cultural thing and also is used to safeguard assets acquired by the family. I know of many Ferang who believe "the wife owns everything" including the family home. They are bissfully unaware that the assets have already been transferred to the brother in law. That makes it near impossible by any means (Legal/ Coercion) to get back if the relationship with the wife turn sour.

[HAKAPALITA]

Ye are blessed with many thick ferangs then, ive yet to meet a ferang his age that isnt aware of the pitfalls.


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[oldrunner]

Let me see. My wife owns our(Her)current home, semi-demolished home next door (long not-so funny story), two cars, two adjacent lots one with complete e story home plus in-law apartment(that be us), another lot with home in progress. I own nothing. I have a fairly generous pension that we use for living expenses, hospital, dental, etc. Adult children take care of their own expenses, both adult children and wives work at businesses (not easy work). Have occasional spats usually of the not-talking kind. Wife's English is good enough my Thai is zero other than basic hello, good-bye, etc. I feel for men who get into marriages/entanglements and are miserable.

[NCC1701A]

On 9/27/2018 at 11:49 AM, webfact said:

Family row blamed for murder

is that like blaming the brakes or the road and not the driver?

 

the brother is a murderer.

 

 

[Geordieabroad]

4 hours ago, Nice Boyd said:

Especially when most brothers are really husbands

What a strange and stupid thing to say

[HAKAPALITA]

6 minutes ago, Geordieabroad said:

What a strange and stupid thing to say

Why.?.

[Geordieabroad]

2 minutes ago, HAKAPALITA said:

Why.?.

If you ask why and you live in Thailand you are obviously involved with a strange Thai family, or you're strange, one of the two. I seriously can't believe that anyone thinks that.

[yellowboat]

2 hours ago, lanista said:

  Yep !!   but you shouldnt say it because you'll upset farangs who think theyre genuinely married.

No farang  should ever put assets in a Thai's name .  Invest your money back home and always rent like ive done for years.

Youre just wasting money if you buy land in LOS. You dont legally own it!!!

 

I wouldnt be surprised at all if a deal is made involving alot of baht and one or two of the village monkeys go free.  It wont happen right now but later when the media loses interest.

 

Invest your money back home, why ?   Singapore and Hong Kong are safe and nearby.  Malaysia might be pretty good too.  If you live in this part of the world, and do not get back "home" with any frequency, it is better to have your assets close to you but safe. 

 

You are right that having too much money in Thailand is a really bad idea as you can see by countless news articles.   Pay as you go in Thailand and invest in a small scale and stay away from extended Thai family members. 

[Odysseus123]

1 hour ago, Chopperboy said:

More likely is that he put all the assets in the wifes name and SHE transferred to the elder brother. A younger sibling transferring to an older siling is a Thai cultural thing and also is used to safeguard assets acquired by the family. I know of many Ferang who believe "the wife owns everything" including the family home. They are bissfully unaware that the assets have already been transferred to the brother in law. That makes it near impossible by any means (Legal/ Coercion) to get back if the relationship with the wife turn sour.

Yes.Spot on.

[MaiDong]

4 hours ago, nausea said:

That grin could be a cultural reaction to a stressful situation. I remember reading that tourists were shocked by Thais smiling as they ran towards them away from the Tsunami. It was explained at the time as a cultural thing, not a lack of concern for those in a life-threatening situation.

 

I fully understand this, but it also shows a complete lack of empathy for the victims, which seems like a cultural reaction too.

[garyk]

Wow, I agree with the others here, if you have two pennies to rub together you are fair game here.

Best to keep a very low profile here IMO. 

 

[Just Weird]

5 hours ago, kwak250 said:

Why would you ever put assets in your wife's crazy brothers name or other family members names ,

when you can just put it in your wife's?

 

Just because The Sun said that doesn't mean that it is anywhere near the truth!

[Fex Bluse]

6 hours ago, kwak250 said:

Why would you ever put assets in your wife's crazy brothers name or other family members names ,

when you can just put it in your wife's?

 

I don't want to blame anyone because I do not know. BUT during my years in Thailand seen so many farang sweet talked by their country girls into doing all type of crazy financial stuff. You would be surprised at the complexity of the story telling and ability of Thai women to concoct ideas and farang gullibility to go along. 

[Fex Bluse]

5 hours ago, HAKAPALITA said:

I can t figure why he lived there, a Millionaire Yachting Fan, with a Phuket Club shirt on.?. 

Thailand has a magical power of whittling away at our standards and expectations day by day until we all assimilate. Plus, sex is decent. And it's not so cloudy. 

 

My scientific assessment 

Edited September 27, 2018 by Fex Bluse

[Chang_paarp]

The cops dragged the local river, and looked for a week, but did not notice a recently dug hole in the grounds of the house.

 

This does a lot to re-enforce the stereotype of the highly trained members of the Royal Thai Police.

[Odysseus123]

10 minutes ago, Fex Bluse said:

I don't want to blame anyone because I do not know. BUT during my years in Thailand seen so many farang sweet talked by their country girls into doing all type of crazy financial stuff. You would be surprised at the complexity of the story telling and ability of Thai women to concoct ideas and farang gullibility to go along. 

Yep.

[Fex Bluse]

1 minute ago, Odysseus123 said:

Yep.

To be fair, they also do it to each other. Many (maybe most) of them live in fabricated lives of layers upon layers of lies and deception. It's like a national sport to them and it's one reason they don't trust each other. 

 

Sometimes I have to remind my gullible expat mates "There is a reason they generally don't trust each other!" 

[robertson468]

3 hours ago, lanista said:

  Yep !!   but you shouldnt say it because you'll upset farangs who think theyre genuinely married.

No farang  should ever put assets in a Thai's name .  Invest your money back home and always rent like ive done for years.

Youre just wasting money if you buy land in LOS. You dont legally own it!!!

 

I wouldnt be surprised at all if a deal is made involving alot of baht and one or two of the village monkeys go free.  It wont happen right now but later when the media loses interest.

 

Another disallusioned man with poor judgement of people and circumstances.  That's how you become a looser, poor you, maybe time you returned to your Country?

[catman20]

6 hours ago, kwak250 said:

Why would you ever put assets in your wife's crazy brothers name or other family members names ,

when you can just put it in your wife's?

 

or better still put house in company name and all other assets in your own name.

[catman20]

2 hours ago, yellowboat said:

Invest your money back home, why ?   Singapore and Hong Kong are safe and nearby.  Malaysia might be pretty good too.  If you live in this part of the world, and do not get back "home" with any frequency, it is better to have your assets close to you but safe. 

 

You are right that having too much money in Thailand is a really bad idea as you can see by countless news articles.   Pay as you go in Thailand and invest in a small scale and stay away from extended Thai family members. 

just dont get married end of story.

[Odysseus123]

4 minutes ago, catman20 said:

or better still put house in company name and all other assets in your own name.

You will still get done (house)

 

Just forge a signature or two..

[Retiredandhappyhere]

4 hours ago, HAKAPALITA said:

Where did he flaunt wealth. ? Hes the same as many an old retired ferang here. Rotting in the Jungle with a Ford Truck..

I agree.  I can no sign of his "flaunting wealth".   He had money of course, but his property and vehicle appear to me to be fairly modest for a reputed millionaire, who seemed to enjoy popping out to feed his ducks.  Also, he was married to a lady of 61 years, so he did not use his wealth to buy a young girl, as many do.   

 

Just now, I have got Alan Hogg down as a really nice guy and his poor wife as a devoted partner.  As for buying assets in various Thai family names, what choice did he have when investing his money when, as a farang, he is not even able to own his own home?  For all we know, it may have been his intention to allow those family members to keep the assets purchased in their name when he passed on, which would negate the necessity for a legal will to do so.