It's Official: No more tips, back-handers or tea money to corrupt immigration officers

[StevieAus]

On 10/6/2018 at 10:16 AM, Lacessit said:

If you fall off your motorbike in Aus, treatment depends on whether you have private health cover or not. If you don't have private health cover, you could be on a looooong waiting list.

Judging by what I've seen at Thai government hospitals, the process is pretty slow here too.

That’s incorrect, in public hospitals in Australia patients are not denied emergency treatment if they do not have private health insurance, the treatment is prioritized based on the severity of the injury or illness children for example seem to be given priority

For so called elective surgery you may be on a waiting list but according to several friends who still live there even with private insurance you can wait weeks to see a specialist and months for an operation.

I have only had two experiences with government hospital emergency departments here and on both occasions was treated very quickly.

My wife suffered a fall a few years ago when she was pregnant and was taken by ambulance to the local government hospital where they treated her immediately

Perhaps we have been lucky but as in Australia there are many factors governing how long you may wait, a few weeks ago our young daughter was ill and despite having top insurance cover we couldn’t get her admitted to any private hospital in Chiang Mai

 

[anon7854]

I never paid more than 2000 baht for VOA and never tipped anyone at immigration.

 

What tips or bribes are you talking about ? ????  

 

Or was it just me not being affected in the last 2 years since I  got my  9 VOA's. 

Edited October 8, 2018 by anon7854

[The manic]

On 10/4/2018 at 10:56 AM, Orton Rd said:

Is this going to affect possible 'tips' where agents obtain extensions for people too poor to have the required baht in the bank for 90 days? Or is this just at the airports!

This makes no sense on so many levels it is impossible to address.  Absolutely bonkers! Thus great fun.

[spidermike007]

It is a bit like saying we have reformed the RTP. These positions are franchises. Very lucrative. Especially customs and the RTP.

[kwilco]

Pattway immigration has a yard full of offices with agents ....... Some of the things they claim to be able to do for 20000 baht seem  highly questionable.

Anybody wish to clarify?

[chama]

Sounds great but where are the instructions on who to contact if tea money is demanded? When your stuck at a birder and a sign says one thing but the guy that controls the border says another what do you do?

[Percy P]

On 10/4/2018 at 5:03 PM, bangrak said:

Now we, on TV, know. ...But will the people of the Immigration Police (officers and deputies) be told, ...and to live accordingly?!

Will it, ever, 'materialize' into the daily reality of 'non-Thais' exposed to the Immigration Police's exactions?

I, alas, sincerely doubt so, when these, ...corrupt, people are not offered some way to compensate for the big loss of income the supression of the bribes/tea money would represent, it will simply go on as it was in some way!

As Thais use to 'reverse' things: how else will they be able to pay for the wife and the 'mia'(s), the kids, the house credit, the loans for cars, etc.?

 

On 10/4/2018 at 5:52 PM, giddyup said:

Do the illegitimate ones actually cost Thailand anything? Probably not, they are still spending money here, there's no welfare.

If their was no corruption welfare my be available. Their is welfare for senior citizens. 500Baht/month

[soalbundy]

Tea money isn't corruption, it is an appreciative gift to show your gratitude for the good service, many try to refuse with hands and feet but to no avail.

[giddyup]

1 hour ago, Percy P said:

 

If their was no corruption welfare my be available. Their is welfare for senior citizens. 500Baht/month

I was talking about falangs.

[5633572526]

On 10/4/2018 at 5:34 PM, darksidedog said:

Amazing! Only one Chinese tourist has to get punched in the face for demanding a receipt and corruption gets a kick in the nether regions.

 

The leverage China has is that it can ban its citizens from coming here

so the damages from a couple of incidents could be huge for Thailand.

western countries do not have that kind of power and we in the west tend to have that idea that the bad things always happen to someone else so we keep coming regardless.

[pattayadgw]

Maybe they should have put at the bottom of these new signs "BIG JOKE" ????

[Vacuum]

56 minutes ago, 5633572526 said:

so the damages from a couple of incidents could be huge for Thailand.

Thailand, in my opinion, did fine before the Chinese started their 'invasion'.

Edited October 15, 2018 by Vacuum

[poohy]

On 10/9/2018 at 6:58 AM, kwilco said:

Pattway immigration has a yard full of offices with agents ....... Some of the things they claim to be able to do for 20000 baht seem  highly questionable.

Anybody wish to clarify?

In the light of the current environment best not to discuss  the above services on an open forum (especially as we dont know who is reading or passing on info)

People who rely on these service know how what they do and where to find them

[kwilco]

2 hours ago, poohy said:

In the light of the current environment best not to discuss  the above services on an open forum (especially as we dont know who is reading or passing on info)

People who rely on these service know how what they do and where to find them

Why? Are you suggesting thither reason for their existence is illegal?

Edited October 15, 2018 by kwilco

[bangrak]

I wanted to stay in S-E Asia, ...with my wife of Thai origin, and had no other choice than Thailand, as in all other countries the Thais are looked down at, as people one cannot trust (guess why...), and Thai women as maids, massage girls, ...or hookers (guess why...).

When life would be made even harder here as it already is by the xhenophobic, racistic authorities, I guess we would leave, and Thailand would lose 1 to 2 million a year.

A drop of water on a hot plate, but what when 20,000 would do the same? 20 to 40 BILLION, net loss, 50,000 would be a 50 to 100 BILLION loss, hmm? Still not worth giving us some kind of consideration, is it...?

Most of the people in our 'category' do respect the local institutions and popular customs (even after having at one or another point been 'had' financially by some Thais), as crazy and stupid we may, privately, think they are, it's 'their' (but who are 'they'...?) country isn't it, but the nationalistic (moronic?) 'my Thailand' cry is alas heard more and more often as only justification for abuse...

 

[DrTuner]

14 hours ago, bangrak said:

I wanted to stay in S-E Asia, ...with my wife of Thai origin, and had no other choice than Thailand, as in all other countries the Thais are looked down at, as people one cannot trust (guess why...), and Thai women as maids, massage girls, ...or hookers (guess why...).

And add to that that many Thais are somehow magically attached to Thailand with a rubber band from their backs, eventually they crawl their way back in even after years overseas. It's a consideration many neglect when deciding to marry one, especially if you're not keen on living in a deteriorating country taken over by goons in green.

[bangrak]

1 minute ago, DrTuner said:

And add to that that many Thais are somehow magically attached to Thailand with a rubber band from their backs, eventually they crawl their way back in even after years overseas. It's a consideration many neglect when deciding to marry one, especially if you're not keen on living in a deteriorating country taken over by goons in green.

Staying in S-E Asia was my idea, actually, my wife enjoyed living in Europe a whole lot better than living in Thailand, when having the opportunity to spend some time with her relatives every 'x' months though. I must say that she has a quite developped 'critical sense', what might explain this and that...