State pays the price for duplication of student names

[webfact]

State pays the price for duplication of student names

By THE NATION

 

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STATE-RUN SCHOOLS registered 180,000 duplicate names on their student lists in the 2017 academic year, adversely affecting the state budget.

 

During the first semester, 70,000 were quickly identified and duplicates removed. 

 

Still, duplication is believed to have punched a large hole in state coffers as the government offers a flat-rate subsidy per student to schools.

The government provides about Bt37,000 subsidy per head to state-run schools. 

 

“Overall, there were 110,000 duplicates in the 2017 academic year,” Public Health Ministry deputy permanent secretary Peera Rattanawijit said yesterday. 

 

He strongly denied reports that the duplicates had only occurred at schools under the supervision of the ministry’s Office of Basic Education Commission.

 

“A total of 18 state agencies are now operating state-run schools,” he said.

 

Peera said among these agencies were the Local Administration Department, the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration, the Pattaya City Administration, the National Defence Studies Institute, the National Buddhism Office, the Royal Thai Police, the Royal Thai Army, the Royal Thai Navy, and the Royal Thai Air Force. 

 

“Altogether, we registered 12.69 million students last year,” he said. 

 

He said there was absolutely no duplication within schools under the supervision of the same agency, because the internal computer system would reject duplicate registrations.

 

“But duplication sometimes occurred at schools operated by different agencies,” he explained. 

 

Peera said for schools operated by different agencies, it took time to check information and identify the duplicates. 

 

He spoke up on the problem of duplication only after a group of schoolteachers in Chaiyaphum province petitioned Deputy Prime Minister ACM Prajin Juntong about alleged irregularities. 

 

The complainants said that apart from claiming a higher state budget, school executives had a greater chance of promotion if records showed their schools had a huge number of students. 

 

Peera said a probe would be launched. “Officials found guilty will face both disciplinary and criminal punishments,” he said. 

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30358032

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2018-11-07

[HappyAndRich]

37 minutes ago, webfact said:

He said there was absolutely no duplication within schools under the supervision of the same agency, because the internal computer system would reject duplicate registrations.

It´s still state-run.

[Chang_paarp]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

 

He strongly denied reports that the duplicates had only occurred at schools under the supervision of the ministry’s Office of Basic Education Commission.

 

“A total of 18 state agencies are now operating state-run schools,” he said.

 

 

No one thought that a simple "accident" of putting the same name up twice (or more) would not happen to increase the funds available to a given school?

This then leads to the question of why are there 18 different state agencies running state schools with apparently incompatible computer systems. Watch how quickly the computer systems change when receiving funding depends on having a central compatible system.

[ChrisY1]

Sounds like another massive scam that's been ongoing for years.

[stanleycoin]

So what's this,  more thieving in Thailand buy / for / agency's or schools ?

That would be unusual.  

Edited November 7, 2018 by stanleycoin

[YetAnother]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

Peera said among these agencies were the Local Administration Department, the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration, the Pattaya City Administration, the National Defence Studies Institute, the National Buddhism Office, the Royal Thai Police, the Royal Thai Army, the Royal Thai Navy, and the Royal Thai Air Force. 

thus the problem ; too many bosses

[wgdanson]

3 hours ago, HappyAndRich said:

It´s still state-run.

On Windows Vista

[Bundooman]

1 hour ago, Chang_paarp said:

 

No one thought that a simple "accident" of putting the same name up twice (or more) would not happen to increase the funds available to a given school?

This then leads to the question of why are there 18 different state agencies running state schools with apparently incompatible computer systems. Watch how quickly the computer systems change when receiving funding depends on having a central compatible system.

The levels of corruption in this country have, without doubt, permeated into almost if not every - single facet of Thai life. I've never seen anything like it in the rest of the world that I have widely travelled. 

14 years living here and would not wish to change my location, I am still amazed by the Thai ability to cheat, lie and steal when it comes to money.

[Sydebolle]

12.69 million students registered - and the bells never rang???????? 

The bottle neck is always on top of the bottle and trust me, the duplication amount in question is inviting enough! 

[nahkit]

48 minutes ago, Sydebolle said:

12.69 million students registered - and the bells never rang???????? 

The bottle neck is always on top of the bottle and trust me, the duplication amount in question is inviting enough! 

Yes, as soon as it went past 12.51 million I'm sure everyone on Thai visa realised something was wrong.

 

(12.69m - 180,000 duplicates)

[TPI]

At 37K per student where does the money go? Some of the larger schools have upward of 3,000 students= ฿111 million! Per year! is this on top of salaries? That's a lot of shopping trips to Singapore!

[Black arab]

So my step daughters school should recieve 3,700,000.

Ummm not a chance.

[Kasset Tak]

I know that one problem is that a student first register at one school, start studying at another, drop out of that school, and finally start studying in a 3rd school... and all that over just a month or 2...
Last semester I had a girl like that, she had signed up for studying M4 at a school in Bangkok (new school), changed to study M4 at another school where here grandparents live, 3 weeks in to the semester she changed to the vocational college where I'm working and now after the school holiday she have transferred to another vocational college in Bangkok instead... it can get a little difficult to keep track of the students and where the money should go.

And also the fact that schools applies for their new budget in August/September and then during the school break in October they can go +- 50 (maybe even more) students... but the big change of students are in February/May. In animal science the VE3 and HVE2 classes that graduated here last February was 12 and 10 respectively, when the school started again in April we had 20 new students in VE1 and 22 new students HVE1, that's almost 100% increase of students to work with, buy school books for and provide with free food but with no more money added to the budget!

[chama]

On 11/7/2018 at 1:43 AM, Black arab said:

So my step daughters school should recieve 3,700,000.

Ummm not a chance.

Leads one to wonder where the additional funds actually ended up? Someones pockets got stuffed.