Pheu Thai Splintering To Win In 2019: Jatuporn

By Teeranai Charuvastra, Staff Reporter

 

Former Bangkok Post editor Umesh Pandey, right, signs up with Thai Raksa Chart Party on Wednesday.

 

BANGKOK — Not one but four Pheu Thai parties will run in the upcoming election, an arrangement the group’s leader says is the only way to victory.

 

With politicians shuffling between Pheu Thai clones on a daily basis, Redshirt leader Jatuporn Prompan told reporters the junta-sponsored constitution favors a group of smaller parties to larger ones. He compared the strategy to breaking a large banknote into smaller bills.

 

Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/politics/2018/11/15/pheu-thai-splintering-to-win-in-2019-jatuporn/

 

-- © Copyright Khaosod English 2018-11-15

Back to the drawing board Meechai. You cancelled the previous MMM election system, rejected the MMP and thought you have done enough to frustrate the big political parties with the MMA. Maybe now is time you do a MIA. 

12 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Back to the drawing board Meechai. You cancelled the previous MMM election system, rejected the MMP and thought you have done enough to frustrate the big political parties with the MMA. Maybe now is time you do a MIA. 

I really hope this comes back to bite the junta in its collective arse.  What with the gerrymandering going on and changing the system, if boys in green and their supporters still don't win this time, I hope they get the message. Could it be down to "we win or another coup"? Would they dare? 

 

And Meechai needs to retire, together with all the others who are way out of touch with modern society. 

The rabble in red seems to be the countries best hope for restoring some sort of participatory government. Not sure what the army is going to do if it loses.  Most outside of the Bangkok bubble are not.  Inside the bubble some are outspokenly disappointed.  If the country unites in its indifference to military rule, a reconciliation, of sorts, will have been achieved.  Well done junta

Can someone settle this point for me. i thought that all the votes of the losers in constituencies would be added up to decide and allocate party list MPs, the winner's votes being discarded,  but a friend argues Meechai changed that to include all the votes in a constituency, both the winner's and losers' votes are added up to allocate Party List MPs.

2 hours ago, yellowboat said:

The rabble in red seems to be the countries best hope for restoring some sort of participatory government. Not sure what the army is going to do if it loses.  Most outside of the Bangkok bubble are not.  Inside the bubble some are outspokenly disappointed.  If the country unites in its indifference to military rule, a reconciliation, of sorts, will have been achieved.  Well done junta

Nonetheless, interesting developments among establishment political lines.

Seem to be splintering and sub-splintering among their own - Junta, PT, Dems, and other minor establishment entities. 

On the surface, appears to be competitive where no loyalties lie.

And certainly nothing about the people or their beloved constituency - it's all about them, their political positioning and their slices of the pie.

 

The slumber continues among most, still not comprehending that they're all one-n-the-same.

3 hours ago, bannork said:

Can someone settle this point for me. i thought that all the votes of the losers in constituencies would be added up to decide and allocate party list MPs, the winner's votes being discarded,  but a friend argues Meechai changed that to include all the votes in a constituency, both the winner's and losers' votes are added up to allocate Party List MPs.

In part from

Dilemmas in the new electoral system

By Punchada Sirivunnabood  

• The fused ballot will count as both a vote for the candidate and simultaneously a vote for that candidate’s party for purposes of the party list seats.
• The total number of votes a party receives nationwide via this single vote will determine the allocation of party-list members of parliament allocated to each party.
• The 150-party list seats will be distributed among parties according to the proportion of these district votes they receive.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/politics/30327564

And in part from

Tough for any party to win clear majority: EC

By Kasamakorn Chanwanpen

• Under the MMA system, the sum total of votes cast for all parties nationwide would be divided by 500 – the number of the seats in the Lower House – to find the mean number for apportioning the seats.   
• The total number of votes polled by a party would be divided by the mean number. The resulting figure would be the total number of seats the party could have in Parliament.  
• If a party does not already have enough constituency MP candidates, the vacancies could be filled by its party-list candidates.
• In the event that a party wins more constituency MPs than the seats apportioned in the House, it would keep the extra MPs. The remaining seats would be redivided for other parties, proportionate with the votes they had polled.   

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/politics/30331909

Thanks for the above Srikcir, it's very useful.

In part from

Dilemmas in the new electoral system By Punchada Sirivunnabood  

• The fused ballot will count as both a vote for the candidate and simultaneously a vote for that candidate’s party for purposes of the party list seats.
• The total number of votes a party receives nationwide via this single vote will determine the allocation of party-list members of parliament allocated to each party.
• The 150-party list seats will be distributed among parties according to the proportion of these district votes they receive.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/politics/30327564

And in part from

Tough for any party to win clear majority: EC

By Kasamakorn Chanwanpen

• Under the MMA system, the sum total of votes cast for all parties nationwide would be divided by 500 – the number of the seats in the Lower House – to find the mean number for apportioning the seats.   
• The total number of votes polled by a party would be divided by the mean number. The resulting figure would be the total number of seats the party could have in Parliament.  
• If a party does not already have enough constituency MP candidates, the vacancies could be filled by its party-list candidates.
• In the event that a party wins more constituency MPs than the seats apportioned in the House, it would keep the extra MPs. The remaining seats would be redivided for other parties, proportionate with the votes they had polled.   

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/politics/30331909

Great post and good to see the system looks at the number of votes. This is how a democracy should be.

Not how it was before with a bonus amount of seats for the winner and constituencies being more important then votes.

Thanks for digging that image up makes it real clear.

Now lets hope the election will be held. Not that it really matters as its switching what bunch of crooks will rape the country.

Maybe if new parties get more popular things will change but not this election.

This voting system did open the door for new parties and that is a great thing.

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14 hours ago, GarryP said:

I really hope this comes back to bite the junta in its collective arse.  What with the gerrymandering going on and changing the system, if boys in green and their supporters still don't win this time, I hope they get the message. Could it be down to "we win or another coup"? Would they dare? 

 

And Meechai needs to retire, together with all the others who are way out of touch with modern society. 

Well said, I really hope you are right.