Using own router for Siinet

[CrossBones]

I have Siinet fibre internet, I live in a condo block in Chiang mai

 

The cable that comes into my room is an RJ45 ethernet cable not an optical fibre cable.

 

That goes into the Siinet TPLINK box.

 

I want to increase security in my network and was looking at Synology RT2600AC router.

 

I don't understand though would I use that to replace my TPLINK box. Or would I just disable the wifi on the TPLINK box and plug it into the Synology unit.

 

I guess replacing it totally would be best ? If so what settings do I use?

 

Thanks

[Crossy]

The ideal solution would be to completely replace the existing router, but you need information which is likely hidden from you in the existing (particularly the relevant passwords). You may be able to obtain from your ISP or get the ISP techie to set it up for you.

 

An easy solution which is nearly as good and won't upset your provider is, as you say, to plug your new router into the existing.

 

Assuming you can access the administration page of your existing router, try this:-

• Log on to the existing router and change its LAN IP address to a different subnet, say 192.168.10.254 (check that its DHCP range changes to the new subnet too, if it doesn't, change it).
• Connect the WAN connection of your new router to one of the LAN connections on the old.
• Connect to the new router, with the default settings you ought to be able to access the net.

Assuming the above works. 

 

Connect again to the old router and disable Wi-Fi.

 

Set up your new router security as you wish.

 

There are a couple of caveats on doing it this way, particularly that you end up with a double-NAT, this will prevent you from accessing security cameras and the like from outside. It's easily fixed but if you don't need it no need to worry.

 

[CrossBones]

7 hours ago, Crossy said:

The ideal solution would be to completely replace the existing router, but you need information which is likely hidden from you in the existing (particularly the relevant passwords). You may be able to obtain from your ISP or get the ISP techie to set it up for you.

 

An easy solution which is nearly as good and won't upset your provider is, as you say, to plug your new router into the existing.

 

Assuming you can access the administration page of your existing router, try this:-

• Log on to the existing router and change its LAN IP address to a different subnet, say 192.168.10.254 (check that its DHCP range changes to the new subnet too, if it doesn't, change it).
• Connect the WAN connection of your new router to one of the LAN connections on the old.
• Connect to the new router, with the default settings you ought to be able to access the net.

Assuming the above works. 

 

Connect again to the old router and disable Wi-Fi.

 

Set up your new router security as you wish.

 

There are a couple of caveats on doing it this way, particularly that you end up with a double-NAT, this will prevent you from accessing security cameras and the like from outside. It's easily fixed but if you don't need it no need to worry.

 

Thanks, why do I need to change subnet on old router. Why not just disconnect wifi on one router and plug it to new router?

 

 

[Crossy]

12 minutes ago, CrossBones said:

Thanks, why do I need to change subnet on old router. Why not just disconnect wifi on one router and plug it to new router?

You don't want WAN and LAN on your new router to be the same subnet, interesting things happen.

 

If you don't want to fiddle with the old router then set the new router LAN to be 192.168.10.254 and adjust its DHCP settings to match.

 

[johng]

13 minutes ago, CrossBones said:

Why not just disconnect wifi on one router and plug it to new router?

To avoid routing conflicts its better (necessary) to change the subnet   though it is possible to have the original router on say 192.168.1.1   and new one on 192.168.1.2 

if the original is in "Bridge mode"

but then you're back to needing to know PPPoE settings and passwords.

[steve73]

I wanted to extend the range of my supplied router (which is in a ground level location, and had a poor signal to the upper floors), so I simply plugged in my old router using a LAN cable, then set it up with its own ID name and password.. So depending where I'm accessing it from I can use wifi from either or both of the routers, by choosing the relevant ID/pw.

I'm assuming if I was so inclined I could use a superior security protocol on the old router...?

btw, I'm not a techy, so talk of subnets, etc, is way over my head..

Edited December 1, 2018 by steve73

[johng]

14 minutes ago, steve73 said:

I wanted to extend the range of my supplied router (which is in a ground level location, and had a poor signal to the upper floors), so I simply plugged in my old router using a LAN cable, then set it up with its own ID name and password..

In that case you should set the "old router"  to a fixed IP address and turn off its DHCP server

try to use  WPA2 AES  encryption.

[steve73]

24 minutes ago, johng said:

In that case you should set the "old router"  to a fixed IP address and turn off its DHCP server

try to use  WPA2 AES  encryption.

..as I said.. way over my head, although I believe it does use WPA2...(??)... and it works OK for my needs.

Edited December 1, 2018 by steve73

[maxpower]

2 hours ago, CrossBones said:

Thanks, why do I need to change subnet on old router. Why not just disconnect wifi on one router and plug it to new router?

 

 

You could plug in another router and use as an access point only.

 

What is the distribution arrangement from Sinet and model number of existing TP-Link box. Are you connected directly to a fiber terminator via Ethernet or behind some other Sinet distribution.

Edited December 1, 2018 by maxpower