webfact Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Trump-Xi trade armistice clears way for more market gains By Jonathan Spicer and Lewis Krauskopf FILE PHOTO: U.S. President Donald Trump and China's President Xi Jinping shake hands after making joint statements at the Great Hall of the People in Beijing, China, November 9, 2017. REUTERS/Damir Sagolj/File Photo NEW YORK (Reuters) - One of the darkest clouds hanging over Wall Street somewhat dissipated on the weekend when China and the United States agreed to shelve any new tariffs and reset discussions, at least temporarily halting an increase in their tensions over trade. Investors said the agreement, lasting 90 days, between Chinese President Xi Jinping and U.S. President Donald Trump at the G20 summit spelled a reprieve for stocks and could pave the way for a positive bookend to a volatile trading year. U.S. stock index futures jumped as trading for the week began late on Sunday, with benchmark S&P 500 e-mini futures <ESc1> up 1.55 percent. Treasury futures were soft, suggesting an appetite for risk-taking could extend last week's gains in the stock market. The trade tension between Washington and Beijing, along with an uncertain outlook for U.S. rate hikes, have for months dogged prospects for equities. The U.S. pledge not to boost tariffs on $200 billion of Chinese goods could mark the most important deal in years between the world's top two economies. "It sets a pretty positive tone (and) stocks should have a decent rally into December," said Nathan Thooft, Boston-based global head of asset allocation for Manulife Asset Management. Thooft said he believed the Trump administration was using a threat to raise tariffs to 25 percent on Jan. 1, from 10 percent now as a negotiating tactic. "So when you start to see evidence that there is the ability to come to some type of agreement, that has to be viewed as a positive," he said. The stock market logged an official correction after a selloff in October and continued volatility in November that, just over a week ago, had left the benchmark S&P 500 <.SPX> stock index down 10 percent from its all-time high. Markets rebounded last week on comments perceived as dovish from Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell, though the S&P was up only 2.4 percent in 2018. The latest trade standoff began in September when the United States imposed the 10-percent tariffs, prompting China to respond with its own. Ahead of the leaders' dinner in Argentina, investors had been bracing for a range of outcomes including a worse-case end to talks and more tit-for-tat measures that would have continued to crimp economic and corporate profit growth. Instead, the Americans and Chinese officially lauded the result. Beijing agreed to buy what the White House called a "very substantial" amount of agriculture, energy, industrial and other products. While the clock ticks on the 90-day tariff reprieve, the two sides will try to work out thorny issues including technology transfer, intellectual property and cyber theft. "It's not solved by any stretch of the imagination," said Thooft. But risk assets and cyclical U.S. sectors like materials and industrials should benefit, he said on Sunday. An initial jump late on Sunday of nearly 2 percent in Nasdaq 100 e-mini futures <NQc1> suggested that technology companies, many of which were hardest hit in the selloff, could rebound. Gary Shapiro, CEO of the Consumer Technology Association, said he was encouraged by the trade talks and warned that raising tariffs to 25 percent as the White House had threatened "would likely hurt consumers, put several American companies out of business and displace thousands of American workers." POWELL TESTIMONY Energy prices could also rebound on Monday since cooling trade tensions could boost the world economy and spur demand. Oil prices had dropped from a four-year high of about $76 per barrel in early October to just above $50 on Friday. But U.S. crude oil <CLc1> was up 2.7 percent to $52.37 a barrel as of 6:07 p.m. EST (2307 GMT) on Sunday. Aside from trade policy, Wall Street's attention has also been trained on Fed policy. Powell was scheduled to testify on Wednesday to a congressional Joint Economic Committee. But the hearing is expected to be postponed to Thursday because major exchanges will be closed on Wednesday in honor of former U.S. President George H.W. Bush, who died on Friday at the age of 94. Last week, Powell backed the Fed's gradual tightening but said its policy rate was "just below" a range of estimates of the so-called neutral level that neither stimulates nor cools growth. In response, stocks shot up and largely recovered November's earlier losses. In the wake of Powell's speech, Nicholas Colas, co-founder of DataTrek Research, said "what happens in Buenos Aires will determine if stocks post a positive 2018." The specter of a global trade war has hovered over the market since March, when Trump announced tariffs on imported steel and aluminum. He also recently said the United States was studying auto tariffs, which could ripple through Europe and Japan, while a pact with Canada and Mexico left some investors heartened about potential progress with China. Nancy Lazar, economist at research firm Cornerstone Macro, said in a notes that the 90-day tariff delay and China's "incremental concessions" are good news. "But given the stern U.S. stance, we're certainly not raising our outlook," she said of a 2.8-percent growth estimate for the fourth quarter, still comfortably above potential. With U.S. corporate leaders increasingly voicing concerns over rising costs associated with tariffs, Wall Street appeared set on Monday to welcome any development that eases those pressures. (Reporting by Jonathan Spicer and Lewis Krauskopf; Editing by Grant McCool and Sandra Maler) -- © Copyright Reuters 2018-12-03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 I have forgotten how to spell sorgum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 14 minutes ago, car720 said: I have forgotten how to spell sorgum. Did you know: Sorghum is among the most efficient crops in conversion of solar energy and use of water? wholegrainscouncil.org 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puipuitom Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Trump needs Xi for Kim... meeting Feb-March Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 10 hours ago, webfact said: China and the United States agreed to shelve any new tariffs and reset discussions, at least temporarily halting an increase in their tensions over trade. So nothing accomplished in terms of real trade barriers except 10 hours ago, webfact said: Trump-Xi trade armistice clears way for more market gains That's "armistice" as in "truce." That didn't stop Trump from claim various successes, none backed by China. Trump tweeted late Sunday evening that "China has agreed to reduce and remove tariffs on cars coming into China from the U.S. Currently the tariff is 40%." Prior to that Twitter post, there had not been any mention of such an agreement in Chinese sources. Chinese state media did not mention the White House's claim that "Xi also stated that he is open to approving the previously unapproved Qualcomm-NXP deal should it again be presented to him." The U.S.-China agreement to not increase tariffs is conditional on the two sides reaching a resolution on other issues within 90 days. However, official online statements about Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi's briefing on the meeting did not discuss the technology transfers or the 90-day condition. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/03/trump-xi-trade-deal-what-chinese-state-media-is-saying.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 At first I thought that Trump really did understand the art of obfuscation when dealing with the Chinese but now I just go back to believing he is an idiot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 It's not at all clear what was agreed to and what was not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langsuan Man Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 It's not at all clear what was agreed to and what was not. Especially when the White House has a different take than the orange one (small "o" in deference to Oranges) https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/03/us-china-trade-deal-trumps-claims-dont-match-white-house-version.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Trump-Xi trade armistice clears way for more market gains Oops. Looked good for a hot-minute. Dow falls 800 points on China trade confusion and mounting fear tariffs are choking global growth "The market is reassessing if anything tangible happened at the Trump-Xi dinner," said one investment strategist. https://www.nbcnews.com/business/markets/dow-falls-700-points-fears-mount-tariffs-are-choking-global-n943641 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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