Anger in UK parliament as Corbyn accused of calling PM 'stupid woman'

[Baerboxer]

On 12/20/2018 at 9:50 AM, terryw said:

Corbyn went to Wellington school which is a fee paying public school.

 

And strangely enough so did many of his Labor colleagues and their offspring. 

 

This is the hypocritical party that destroyed Britain's Grammar and Secondary Modern schools to replace them with Comprehensives. But of course that's for the masses. They send their own children for private education. Because they know their Comprehensives are mostly <deleted>.

 

Typical of Labor and socialists - do as we say, not as we do!

Edited December 22, 2018 by Baerboxer

[Baerboxer]

1 minute ago, dick dasterdly said:

In the same way as (as far as I know), that it's not a crime yet to mutter that someone is a 'stupid man/woman'.....

 

Assault can be verbal, doesn't have to be physical. Besides which, there are parliamentary rules and behavior codes which have to be followed, rules of the House enforced by the speaker.

[Baerboxer]

17 minutes ago, Spidey said:

I completely agree with you, which is why we should never have had a referendum in the first place and people should stop banging on about "abiding by the wishes of the people". Parliament would have never voted for Brexit in the first place. They knew it wasn't in the best interest of the people to leave the EU.

 

In the worst case, they should have invoked article 50, negotiated a deaL with the EU and then, if they felt the need, had a referendum on whether to accept the deal or not.

 

As it was we had a referendum when no one had a clue what Brexit really entailed and what the actual consequences were. Democracy, my arse!

 

Probably the most accurate and sensible comment on Brexit this year! 

[sanemax]

8 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

In the same way as (as far as I know), that it's not a crime yet to mutter that someone is a 'stupid man/woman'.....

Yes, that is why he hasnt been charged with any criminal offence 

[vogie]

12 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Assault can be verbal, doesn't have to be physical. Besides which, there are parliamentary rules and behavior codes which have to be followed, rules of the House enforced by the speaker.

But it does become problematic when the speaker of the house doesn't allegedly follow parliamentary rules.

 

 

[sanemax]

26 minutes ago, Spidey said:

I completely agree with you, which is why we should never have had a referendum in the first place and people should stop banging on about "abiding by the wishes of the people". Parliament would have never voted for Brexit in the first place. They knew it wasn't in the best interest of the people to leave the EU.

 

In the worst case, they should have invoked article 50, negotiated a deaL with the EU and then, if they felt the need, had a referendum on whether to accept the deal or not.

 

As it was we had a referendum when no one had a clue what Brexit really entailed and what the actual consequences were. Democracy, my arse!

A referendum was required on this issue .

UKIP were gaining ground in popularity on this one issue and it would have been a travesty had Ferange become PM .

  The general populace views on this issue were not party specific , voters from across the political spectrum had differing views , some Conservatives , Labour, Liberal voters wanted to stay, others wanted to leave and the only party who had a manifesto of leaving were UKIP .

  So, ask the voters what they want on this specific issue    

[dick dasterdly]

1 hour ago, sanemax said:

A referendum was required on this issue .

UKIP were gaining ground in popularity on this one issue and it would have been a travesty had Ferange become PM .

  The general populace views on this issue were not party specific , voters from across the political spectrum had differing views , some Conservatives , Labour, Liberal voters wanted to stay, others wanted to leave and the only party who had a manifesto of leaving were UKIP .

  So, ask the voters what they want on this specific issue    

Which is precisely what happened - and they voted to leave.

 

Not sure of the point you are trying to make?

 

 

Edited December 22, 2018 by dick dasterdly

[SheungWan]

2 hours ago, persimmon said:

Corbyn is a fraud - as demonstrated by the video of him pretending there were no seats on a train,forcing him to sit on the floor,when,in fact,there were seats available.

 

Lets give PM May some credit.Negotiating a Brexit deal that could keep everyone happy was always going to be an impossible job.I think she`s done her best in very difficult circumstances.

 

2 hours ago, Spidey said:

So she's negotiated a deal that keeps no one happy. Watch the parliamentary vote on it, if it ever happens.

Better still, honour British democracy and put it to a referendum of the people on whether to accept it or not.

So here we have a reply which cuts out the reference to the incident where Corbyn lied about there being no seats available on the train and doing a fake routine of him having to sit in the corridor because there were no seats. Yes. Doesn't quite fit in with the 'honest Jeremy' mirage so let's cut it. The man has got form. Deny, evasiveness and lying. Supporter? Deflect.

[sanemax]

2 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

Which is precisely what happened - and they voted to leave.

Not sure of the point you are trying to make?

It was a reply to Spideys post and a response to his post 

[dick dasterdly]

Just now, SheungWan said:

 

So here we have a reply which cuts out the reference to the incident where Corbyn lied about there being no seats available on the train and doing a fake routine of him having to sit in the corridor because there were no seats. Yes. Doesn't quite fit in with the 'honest Jeremy' mirage so let's cut it. The man has got form. Deny, evasiveness and lying. Supporter? Deflect.

Nobody (?) thinks politicians are honest, but I appreciate the example of Corbyn being dishonest.

[dick dasterdly]

Just now, sanemax said:

It was a reply to Spideys post and a response to his post 

Which brings us back to:-

 

1 hour ago, sanemax said:

A referendum was required on this issue .

UKIP were gaining ground in popularity on this one issue and it would have been a travesty had Ferange become PM .

  The general populace views on this issue were not party specific , voters from across the political spectrum had differing views , some Conservatives , Labour, Liberal voters wanted to stay, others wanted to leave and the only party who had a manifesto of leaving were UKIP .

  So, ask the voters what they want on this specific issue    

 

Edited December 22, 2018 by dick dasterdly

[sanemax]

2 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

 

So here we have a reply which cuts out the reference to the incident where Corbyn lied about there being no seats available on the train and doing a fake routine of him having to sit in the corridor because there were no seats. Yes. Doesn't quite fit in with the 'honest Jeremy' mirage so let's cut it. The man has got form. Deny, evasiveness and lying. Supporter? Deflect.

And then the train company showed a video of there being plenty of available seats on that very  train  at the time the video was taken , Jeremy stated that there wasnt four seats together and he wanted to sit with three friends......................so, he went and sat on the floor...............on his own.................without his friends ????

[sanemax]

Just now, dick dasterdly said:

Which brings us back to:-

 

Yes, I was replying to Spideys post (about there being no need for a referendum and I was explaining why a referendum was necessary )

[SheungWan]

2 minutes ago, sanemax said:

And then the train company showed a video of there being plenty of available seats on that very  train  at the time the video was taken , Jeremy stated that there wasnt four seats together and he wanted to sit with three friends......................so, he went and sat on the floor...............on his own.................without his friends ????

Did Corbyn admit his 'mistake'?

[dick dasterdly]

I've no idea why I'm arguing on this topic - as we all know that all politicians lie and distort the truth whenever possible!

 

Apart from the fact that this is clearly a storm in a teacup.....

[dick dasterdly]

Just now, sanemax said:

Yes, I was replying to Spideys post (about there being no need for a referendum and I was explaining why a referendum was necessary )

I don't think that was my post?

 

Even so,please quote the entire post, not just your 'snippet'.  I've received a holiday for far less....

Edited December 22, 2018 by dick dasterdly

[dick dasterdly]

Just now, sanemax said:

Yes, I was replying to Spideys post (about there being no need for a referendum and I was explaining why a referendum was necessary )

Please quote my entire post as I agree that the referendum was called as a result of the rise of ukip.

 

The govt. made the mistake of thinking that remain would easily win.....

[evadgib]

Related to this topic:

 

[sanemax]

14 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

I don't think that was my post?

 

Even so,please quote the entire post, not just your 'snippet'.  I've received a holiday for far less....

I did quote your entire post , the only thing that was missing is the post to which you were replying to and that was MY post and MY post didnt show up when I pressed the quote button .

   (BTW , You do not receive a holiday for editing posts , as long as you dont change the context of what they meant ) 

[Spidey]

8 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

 

And strangely enough so did many of his Labor colleagues and their offspring. 

 

This is the hypocritical party that destroyed Britain's Grammar and Secondary Modern schools to replace them with Comprehensives. But of course that's for the masses. They send their own children for private education. Because they know their Comprehensives are mostly <deleted>.

 

Typical of Labor and socialists - do as we say, not as we do!

And strangely enough, Corbyn didn't go to Wellington, he passed his 11+ and was a grammar school boy.

 

There are 2 grammar schools in my home town, my daughter went to one of them. The grammar school system is alive and well, unfortunately.

 

Strange how some people believe any old BS because it suits their agenda. Same as Trump supporters, I suppose.

[sanemax]

Just now, Spidey said:

And strangely enough, Corbyn didn't go to Wellington, he passed his 11+ and was a grammar school boy.

 

There are 2 grammar schools in my home town, my daughter went to one of them. The grammar school system is alive and well, unfortunately.

 

Strange how some people believe any old BS because it suits their agenda. Same as Trump supporters, I suppose.

Please do stop going on about Trump , you've mentioned him a few times in this thread already 

[sanemax]

8 minutes ago, Spidey said:

And strangely enough, Corbyn didn't go to Wellington, he passed his 11+ and was a grammar school boy.

There are 2 grammar schools in my home town, my daughter went to one of them. The grammar school system is alive and well, unfortunately.

Strange how some people believe any old BS because it suits their agenda. Same as Trump supporters, I suppose.

You are saying that Corbyn didnt go to a good school and he went to a normal grammar school and people who beleive that he went to a good school are suckers .

   Well, this is the school that Corbyn attended 

 

  Yeah , just a regular normal grammar school.............one in every village

[sanemax]

"Jeremy Corbyn's former school has congratulated him on his recent election success.

The prestigious Adams Grammar School in Shropshire was attended by Corbyn, and the Headteacher spoke of their delight at seeing a former pupil do so well.

Mr Corbyn's opinions on selective schools such as Adams' are well known but I warmly invite him to come and visit his former school to see the great many changes that have taken place and to talk to our pupils about their experience.

– GARY HICKEY, HEADMASTER"

 

 

 

  https://www.itv.com/news/central/update/2015-09-12/jeremy-corbyn-congratulated-by-former-shropshire-school/

 

 

    Just  normal grammar school eh Spidey ?

[Spidey]

8 hours ago, sanemax said:

A referendum was required on this issue .

UKIP were gaining ground in popularity on this one issue and it would have been a travesty had Ferange become PM .

  The general populace views on this issue were not party specific , voters from across the political spectrum had differing views , some Conservatives , Labour, Liberal voters wanted to stay, others wanted to leave and the only party who had a manifesto of leaving were UKIP .

  So, ask the voters what they want on this specific issue    

Correct me if I'm wrong but in the election prior to the referendum, UKIP had zero MP's elected, in the post referendum election, they had one MP elected, an MP who had previous defected from the Tory party.

 

There was never any chance of Farage getting elected as an MP let alone becoming PM. You really do twist things to suit your agenda. The reason Cameron called for a referendum was to take the wind out of UKIPs sails, as Tory voters trickled away to UKIP and Cameron was worried that if enough defected the Tory vote would be split and Labour would get in through the back door. He never dreamt that people would actually vote Brexit.

 

You need to make your mind up, are you for or against referendums? Or are you only for them when they go your way? I'll bet that you would have been apoplectic and claimed that the referendum should never have taken place if the vote had gone for remain.

 

You really have got a nerve calling others hypocritical!

[Spidey]

6 minutes ago, sanemax said:

"Jeremy Corbyn's former school has congratulated him on his recent election success.

The prestigious Adams Grammar School in Shropshire was attended by Corbyn, and the Headteacher spoke of their delight at seeing a former pupil do so well.

Mr Corbyn's opinions on selective schools such as Adams' are well known but I warmly invite him to come and visit his former school to see the great many changes that have taken place and to talk to our pupils about their experience.

– GARY HICKEY, HEADMASTER"

 

 

 

  https://www.itv.com/news/central/update/2015-09-12/jeremy-corbyn-congratulated-by-former-shropshire-school/

 

 

    Just  normal grammar school eh Spidey ?

Yes, a normal grammar school, very similar to the one my daughter attended. Just as Corbyn, she passed her 11+ and went there as a day pupil. No fees involved. And same as my daughter, his father was an engineer. His mother was a teacher, my daughter's mother was a nurse.

 

Unlike Cameron, Boris, Gove et al. who went to Eaton Oxford and were all members of the Bullingdon Club. Talk about brainless, privileged, upper class snobs!

[sanemax]

13 minutes ago, Spidey said:

Correct me if I'm wrong but in the election prior to the referendum, UKIP had zero MP's elected, in the post referendum election, they had one MP elected, an MP who had previous defected from the Tory party.

There was never any chance of Farage getting elected as an MP let alone becoming PM. You really do twist things to suit your agenda.

UKIP got nearly one million votes in the 2010 general elections and their popularity had been increasing  .Had there been no referendum , and it came down to voting for a Political party to take the UK out of Europe and UKIP were the ONLY parry offer Bewxit in their manifesto , UKIP and ferange could have swept to power and won the election .

   The Gov held a referendum instead .

Even if UKIP would not have won the election , they could have formed a coalition , like the current Conservative/DUP coalition 

[Spidey]

Just now, sanemax said:

UKIP got nearly one million votes in the 2010 general elections and their popularity had been increasing  .Had there been no referendum , and it came down to voting for a Political party to take the UK out of Europe and UKIP were the ONLY parry offer Bewxit in their manifesto , UKIP and ferange could have swept to power and won the election .

   The Gov held a referendum instead .

Even if UKIP would not have won the election , they could have formed a coalition , like the current Conservative/DUP coalition 

They got no MPs before the Referendum and one after the referendum. You really are dreaming now!

[Scott]

Bickering posts removed.

 

[sanemax]

3 hours ago, Spidey said:

They got no MPs before the Referendum and one after the referendum. You really are dreaming now!

I was suggesting what may have happened in the future .After the referendum, there was no need to vote for UKIP because it was mission accomplished .

  Anyway, lets get back on topic .

[SheungWan]

6 hours ago, Spidey said:

Yes, a normal grammar school,

Yeah right, pull the other one. Maybe you can also talk us through Corbyn's junior school which was Castle House School, an independent preparatory school. Mind you, at the end of his schooling he managed to achieve the grand total of 2 E's at A Level. Clearly a star in the making (PS recommend go for the Churchill compare card to escape.). Higher Education? Didn't even graduate from a course at North London Poly. Corbyn's performance in Parliament more of the same: Stumbling and unimpressive. Mouthing off in a mime show...well are we so surprised?

Edited December 22, 2018 by SheungWan