60 deaths a day still a stain on improved Thai road toll ranking

[kevvy]

On 12/21/2018 at 5:14 AM, Fex Bluse said:

Maybe they should consider raising the speed limit to solve these problems 

What a stupid thing to say. Your thinking amazes me and I am sure others think the same .. Get a life ... So tired of the nasty comments made on this site .. I thought people came to this country to get a better life and be happy .Just shows they were not happy where they came from .

[Valentine]

At least the rate is going down, that's positive, but there should be no pats on the back as it is still horrendously high. Effective policing will help but it will take a generational change in the way of thinking so have to start in the schools as the older generation are beyond teaching as they "know better being older & wiser".

Maybe if the elite start losing family members it might jolt them into thinking that current policy is not working although they are fairly well protected in quality vehicles & often with escorts.

[metisdead]

An off topic post about American road toll has been removed.

[Odysseus123]

2 hours ago, Valentine said:

At least the rate is going down, that's positive, but there should be no pats on the back as it is still horrendously high. Effective policing will help but it will take a generational change in the way of thinking so have to start in the schools as the older generation are beyond teaching as they "know better being older & wiser".

Maybe if the elite start losing family members it might jolt them into thinking that current policy is not working although they are fairly well protected in quality vehicles & often with escorts.

There is no indication whatsoever-other than the gov'ts pronouncements-that the rate is going down.

 

Of course,because i always ACCEPT all these pronouncements at face value and in complete blind faith, my friends sometime suggest that I may be a few cards short of a full kitty..????

Edited December 23, 2018 by Odysseus123

[Valentine]

21 minutes ago, Odysseus123 said:

There is no indication whatsoever-other than the gov'ts pronouncements-that the rate is going down.

 

Of course,because i always ACCEPT all these pronouncements at face value and in complete blind faith, my friends sometime suggest that I may be a few cards short of a full kitty..????

I guess you don't consider WHO to be a reliable source. Numbers came from them not Thai government

[wilcopops]

3 hours ago, Thiboboid said:

if you use a helmet, the number of accidents will be reduced by 90%.

This is total nonsense............... 

[wilcopops]

10 minutes ago, Valentine said:

I guess you don't consider WHO to be a reliable source. Numbers came from them not Thai government

The Thai government themselves do not actually compile a lot of statistics they mostly come from other sources such as insurance and quangos - you also need to understand the criteria and different sets of figures

 

The figures discussed are usually only one out of a whole set of statistics provided by WHO. These are gathered from various sources in Thai;and and then analyzed by WHO to provide a set of figures that are as comparative internationally as is possibly permitted.

 

The Who have a paper that describes their methods of gathering collating and analyzing statistics which make good reading - if you can find it.

 

 

One has to be aware though that the statistics gathered in Thailand are simply inadequate for a truly accurate picture - to get an idea of how inadequate compare with the Road Safety stat of countries like UK.

 

it is of course essential to compare Thailand's stats with other countries as without this you have no idea of how. good or bad they are, but you also need to be aware of population, demography, road structure, train engineering, enforcement, cars per population, cars per kilometer of road, number of kilometers driven, number of people per vehicle, speed limits,  and ratios of various road users - including pedestrians, type of vehicles, e.g. small vehicles other road users like stalls and vendors, commercial traffic, average condition of vehicles and roads...etc etc.......

Edited December 23, 2018 by wilcopops

[wilcopops]

I'm sure somewhere in a road traffic department library is a book entitled "A 101 things to do about road safety before the holidays".

So then officials can just open the book at any page and pick out an idea at random without having to do any thinking about it's impact on Road Safety........

Edited December 23, 2018 by wilcopops

[swifty5x5]

On 12/21/2018 at 7:22 AM, ChipButty said:

Nothing will ever change and we all know it, everybody knows where and when the police setup road blocks so people just avoid them, I think they should be out at night

sleeping

[Pattaya28]

On 12/21/2018 at 11:52 AM, Odysseus123 said:

 

 

25,000 is nearer the mark.

 

 

25,000 was the mark 2 years ago.

The statistic now is far higher. 

[wilcopops]

On 12/24/2018 at 3:28 PM, Pattaya28 said:

25,000 was the mark 2 years ago.

The statistic now is far higher. 

It's not a simple benchmark or yardstick - you are using only one statistic out of many criteria and need to check the sources for comparison ... even WHO  can alter their collation criteria.

Edited December 26, 2018 by wilcopops