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my mother in law gets difelene (diclofenac diethylammonium) for her arthritis and joint inflammation...

 

it's a gel in a big tube...available most places...it might be an acceptable substitute...

 

 

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On 12/22/2018 at 9:12 PM, tutsiwarrior said:

my mother in law gets difelene (diclofenac diethylammonium) for her arthritis and joint inflammation...

 

it's a gel in a big tube...available most places...it might be an acceptable substitute...

 

 

Hi Tutsi,

thank you! I may try, as I used to take diclofenac after knee surgeries. Strong stuff that gives gastritis, but in gel form it may help.

DMSO for me is sort of magic: whatever I have, I do apply; gets better. 

In the different countries I used to live it is sold at the horses vet. Apparently horses get a lot of arthritis and it helps. Size is also for a horse, 1 LB!!!!!

Since I am in Thailand I asked someone to bring from Dubai and also bought from Amazon. The story of the "medical grade" is important, as nobody wants to incorporate strange substances into the body. 

However DMSO is always a solvent....don't understand very well. 

Thank you!

 

 

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For the diclofenac gel, apply hot soaks first until the skin is very red.This dilates blood vessels so you get much more local absorption.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Sheryl said:

For the diclofenac gel, apply hot soaks first until the skin is very red.This dilates blood vessels so you get much more local absorption.

 

 

Thanks Sheryl, and Merry Xmas!

 

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15 hours ago, Sheryl said:

For the diclofenac gel, apply hot soaks first until the skin is very red.This dilates blood vessels so you get much more local absorption.

Sheryl, is that a good rule of thumb or any topical medication?

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On 12/25/2018 at 6:19 AM, wpcoe said:

Sheryl, is that a good rule of thumb or any topical medication?

 

NO, IT IS NOT! 

 

Heating the skin increases absorbtion however, there are topical medications that can have fatal side effects if too much is abosbed into the skin, such as lidocaine, and there are plenty of others that can result in horrible side effects, such as this one, diclofenec gel, which has strict maximum daily doses for a very good reason.

 

The rule of thumb is always follow doctors orders, in the case of diclofenac the instructions are clear, DO NOT APPLY HEAT.

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On 12/25/2018 at 12:23 PM, Sheryl said:

Yes

 

This is the second time I have seen you giving out false and potentialy dangerous medical info on here. 

 

Are you in Thailand?

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NO, IT IS NOT! 

 

Heating the skin increases absorbtion however, there are topical medications that can have fatal side effects if too much is abosbed into the skin, such as lidocaine, and there are plenty of others that can result in horrible side effects, such as this one, diclofenec gel, which has strict maximum daily doses for a very good reason.

 

The rule of thumb is always follow doctors orders, in the case of diclofenac the instructions are clear, DO NOT APPLY HEAT.

Many ortho specialists recommend applying heat prior to applying the gel. I have personally been so instructed many times.

Manufacturer says nothing about it. Only not to apply occlusive dressing or external heat AFTER the gel has been applied.

 

Where are you getting this from?

 

Sent from my SM-J701F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Sheryl said:

Many ortho specialists recommend applying heat prior to applying the gel. I have personally been so instructed many times.

Manufacturer says nothing about it. Only not to apply occlusive dressing or external heat AFTER the gel has been applied.

 

Where are you getting this from?

 

Sent from my SM-J701F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app

 

 

 

 

It doesnt matter where I am getting it from, you have no business playing pharmacist.


Expected dose is calculated from expected rate of absorbtion into unheated skin, if you increase absorbtion beyond expectation then you also need to adjust the dose, this is to avoid complications, in the case of diclofenac, complications such as toxic epidermal necrolysis.

 

A doctor once told you to do something and so you thought that that should be the case for all people in all cases and even extrapolated that to all other topical medicines. 

 

You people are incredibly dangerous.  Again, are you in Thailand?

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