Surachai aides’ killings may be linked to security matters: Srivara

[snoop1130]

Surachai aides’ killings may be linked to security matters: Srivara

By THE NATION

 

 

THE BRUTAL deaths of two anti-monarchy activists, whose bodies were found in the Mekong River recently, could be linked to security matters, but they were not related to politics, Deputy National Police Commissioner Pol General Srivara Ransibrahmanakul said.

 

Srivara instructed Nakhon Phanom police Pol Captain Chom Churat to bring the case to him on Thursday for review. He said it was unclear if the killings had taken place in Thai territory, he said. 

 

“I have ordered further investigations into the cases since the two deaths were not caused by natural causes,” Srivara told reporters.

 

Former communist insurgent Surachai “Saedan” Danwattana-nusorn and his “aides” Chatcharn “Phoochana” Bubphawan and Kraidej “Kasalong” Luelert were apparently living in self-imposed exile in Laos when they went missing in December. 

 

The bodies of Surachai’s aides were found on December 26 and 27 in the Mekong River, which borders the two countries. Their hands and feet were bound, their faces beaten to a pulp and their organs removed and body cavities stuffed with concrete before the bodies were flung into the river.

 

Primary examination indicates that this kind of brutal murder was uncommon in Thailand, Srivara said. Given the fact that the Phoochana and Kasalong were allegedly involved in the possession of war weapons, their deaths might be related to security matters, not politics, Srivara said, but declined to elaborate on the difference. 

 

The police and military had earlier denied any role in the death of the two, as they had lived in exile in a neighbouring country since the military coup in 2014. There was no intelligence report on Surachai’s fate, according to Srivara.

 

The bodies of his aides were brought to the Institute of Forensic Medicine at the Police Hospital in the capital. The bodies will be handed over to their relatives only after the re-examination process is finished, another police officer said.

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2019-01-24

[darksidedog]

I can't believe how often police in charge of high profile cases make ridiculous statements, before they actually know anything significant about the case. To discount the possibility of it being politically motivated, even though they were both political activists is though, one of the most stupid statements I have ever read.

It absolutely screams out that they were murdered for exactly those reasons, and that a cover up is well and truly underway. If he had a brain, and didn't want to reveal what they intend to do, he would of course state that they were not ruling out anything. To do otherwise is plain dumb.

[Oziex1]

Could be linked to this, but definatly not the other. 

I'm sure you know. 

[bannork]

2 minutes ago, darksidedog said:

I can't believe how often police in charge of high profile cases make ridiculous statements, before they actually know anything significant about the case. To discount the possibility of it being politically motivated, even though they were both political activists is though, one of the most stupid statements I have ever read.

It absolutely screams out that they were murdered for exactly those reasons, and that a cover up is well and truly underway. If he had a brain, and didn't want to reveal what they intend to do, he would of course state that they were not ruling out anything. To do otherwise is plain dumb.

He has to say what he says. Don't take things at face value.

[ThreeEyedRaven]

22 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

THE BRUTAL deaths of two anti-monarchy activists, whose bodies were found in the Mekong River recently, could be linked to security matters, but they were not related to politics, Deputy National Police Commissioner Pol General Srivara Ransibrahmanakul said.

Destined to go down as one of the universes greatest unsolved mysteries then. Such a closed minded approach clearly states that he will find nothing, absolutely nothing, to suggest that Thailand's political situation could be involved. Little surprised not to see a bucket of white liquid and a bunch of brushes on the table, with the Guinness Book Of Records validation team standing by..

Edited January 24, 2019 by ThreeEyedRaven

[jayboy]

10 hours ago, bannork said:

He has to say what he says. Don't take things at face value.

You are both right. The statement was absurd (and I"m sure the speaker didn't believe a word of it) and at the same time in the official Thai context, something like that needed to be said.

 

 

[TopDeadSenter]

10 hours ago, darksidedog said:

I can't believe how often police in charge of high profile cases make ridiculous statements, before they actually know anything significant about the case. To discount the possibility of it being politically motivated, even though they were both political activists is though, one of the most stupid statements I have ever read.

It absolutely screams out that they were murdered for exactly those reasons, and that a cover up is well and truly underway. If he had a brain, and didn't want to reveal what they intend to do, he would of course state that they were not ruling out anything. To do otherwise is plain dumb.

Step 2, nab a couple of young penniless migrant workers and blame it on them. Torture a confession out of them. No need for motive, or any evidence whatsoever. Sue anybody that talks about the case. Job done. Tried and tested - worked a charm.

 There was a spate of extrajudicial killings over the last few years. Mor Yong was probably the highest profile. I can't help but wonder about a possible connection.

[Lungstib]

Since when has security not been a political issue in Thailand? The largest political party in this country is the military and its own biggest political unit is ISOC, the Internal Security Operations Command. For 4 years we have been constantly bombarded with announcement over threats to 'security' and political opponents have been jailed for threats to it. 

[robblok]

11 hours ago, darksidedog said:

I can't believe how often police in charge of high profile cases make ridiculous statements, before they actually know anything significant about the case. To discount the possibility of it being politically motivated, even though they were both political activists is though, one of the most stupid statements I have ever read.

It absolutely screams out that they were murdered for exactly those reasons, and that a cover up is well and truly underway. If he had a brain, and didn't want to reveal what they intend to do, he would of course state that they were not ruling out anything. To do otherwise is plain dumb.

Talk about putting your foot in your mouth, they seem to be great at it. Same as always discounting politics or when it suits them telling something is political when it is not.

 

Let them investigate first and then say something but like this they show their bias and the outcome looks clear already.

[Artisi]

11 hours ago, darksidedog said:

I can't believe how often police in charge of high profile cases make ridiculous statements, before they actually know anything significant about the case. To discount the possibility of it being politically motivated, even though they were both political activists is though, one of the most stupid statements I have ever read.

It absolutely screams out that they were murdered for exactly those reasons, and that a cover up is well and truly underway. If he had a brain, and didn't want to reveal what they intend to do, he would of course state that they were not ruling out anything. To do otherwise is plain dumb.

Normal everyday common occurance, in other words - stupid. 

[Artisi]

53 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Step 2, nab a couple of young penniless migrant workers and blame it on them. Torture a confession out of them. No need for motive, or any evidence whatsoever. Sue anybody that talks about the case. Job done. Tried and tested - worked a charm.

 There was a spate of extrajudicial killings over the last few years. Mor Yong was probably the highest profile. I can't help but wonder about a possible connection.

Don't tink too mut. 

[HalfLight]

This guy doesn't know which way is up, let alone whether or not the killings were linked to politics.

 

The problem is, that whether or not the murders were carried out by or on behalf of the government, that's the conclusion people will come to, and it isn't the first time, which doesn't help create the image of a squeaky clean nation.

 

The perception will be that Thailand is a savage and uncivilised place. Which in my opinion, seems to be well justified, and coming a short while before elections is an absolute masterpiece of timing. Chanocha and Prawit must either be fit to be tied down about this, or plainly saying to have a very gloomy view of the intelligence of Thais

 

For as long as Thailand chooses to engage in behaviour like this, they can forget any kind of real acceptance into the international community. Before the Thai apologists start, I'm well aware that this kind of thing happens in different countries, some of them in the first world. I'm also aware the politics is a dirty business in many countries, but wer'e not in many countries, we're in Thailand and it's Thai dissidents that have been murdered. Again.

 

Having said that, if I were a Thai dissident, I don't think I be putting my eggs in the Laos basket, and I don't think I'd be viewing Laos as a safe haven to run to if I get handed my hat and coat in Thailand.

 

At least a part of the odium for this piece of skullduggery will be brought to Laos' door, and I do not doubt that a deal has been struck for them to provide assistance between them and the military in Thailand in dealing with Thai dissidents. Still, Laos isn't exactly a pristine example of democracy at work, so perhaps nobody should be surprised that they would get involved in something like this, because involvement there most certainly has been.

 

 

 

Edited January 25, 2019 by HalfLight

[Burma Bill]

Conveniently "out of the way" before the Coronation.

[Artisi]

9 minutes ago, Burma Bill said:

Conveniently "out of the way" before the Coronation.

Yep, no disruptions from that corner.. 

 

[klauskunkel]

15 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

were not related to politics, Deputy National Police Commissioner Pol General Srivara Ransibrahmanakul said

Srivara is preempting for the government. Of course when you forestall so clumsily it makes it obvious that the killing would be related to politics and Srivara is just the guy to handle that. 

Deep thinkers they are not.

[chama]

On 1/24/2019 at 8:29 AM, darksidedog said:

I can't believe how often police in charge of high profile cases make ridiculous statements, before they actually know anything significant about the case. To discount the possibility of it being politically motivated, even though they were both political activists is though, one of the most stupid statements I have ever read.

It absolutely screams out that they were murdered for exactly those reasons, and that a cover up is well and truly underway. If he had a brain, and didn't want to reveal what they intend to do, he would of course state that they were not ruling out anything. To do otherwise is plain dumb.

On the other hand trough position can depend on loyalty and any indication someone in power order executions could impact trough position.