snoop1130 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Australia PM urges Thailand not to extradite Bahraini player by Nick Mulvenney FILE PHOTO: Hakeem Al Araibi, a former member of Bahrain's national soccer team who holds a refugee status in Australia arrives at court after he was arrested last month on arrival at a Bangkok airport based on an Interpol notice issued at Bahrain's request, in Bangkok, Thailand December 11, 2018. REUTERS/Athit Perawongmetha/File Photo ABU DHABI (Reuters) - Australia’s Prime Minister Scott Morrison and Asian soccer chiefs called on the Thai government to release footballer Hakeem Al Araibi as prosecutors in Bangkok on Tuesday acknowledged receipt of an extradition request from Bahrain. Bahraini Araibi, who fled to Australia from his homeland in 2014 and was later granted asylum, was arrested in November in Bangkok on an Interpol notice issued at Bahrain’s request. The Australian Prime Minister’s office confirmed that Morrison had written a letter to his Thai counterpart Prayuth Chan-ocha asking that Araibi be allowed to return home. “The PM reminded the Thai prime minister that he is a refugee that has been given permanent residency, he should be released,” one source familiar with the details of the letter told Reuters. The Asian Football Confederation (AFC) also wrote to the Thai Prime Minister, a significant move because the regional governing body, which had been criticised for its silence on the case, is run by a leading Bahraini, Sheikh Salman bin Ebrahim al-Khalifa. Araibi was a vocal critic of Sheikh Salman, a member of Bahrain’s ruling family and a cousin of the king, when the AFC President contested the FIFA presidential election in 2015. The AFC said on Saturday that Sheikh Salman had been recused from matters relating to West Asia 18 months ago to ensure there were no accusations of a conflict of interest and that Vice President Praful Patel would oversee the Araibi case. “I hereby respectfully request Your Excellency to take the necessary steps to ensure that Mr AI Araibi is returned safely to Australia, where he has been granted refugee status, at the earliest possible opportunity,” Patel wrote to Prayuth. Araibi was convicted of vandalising a police station in Bahrain and sentenced to 10 years in prison in absentia. He denies wrongdoing. FIFA APPEAL Thailand’s Foreign Ministry have been consistent in saying the case was a matter for their justice system to decide and on Tuesday reiterated that stance. Chatchom Akapin, Director-General at the International Affairs Department, Office of Attorney General of Thailand told Reuters that an extradition request had been received from the Bahrain government. “We have to see whether the Bahrain request falls in line with Thailand’s Extradition Act of 2008,” he said. “If it matches then we will make the request to the criminal court. It is the court who decides whether to sent Mr. Hakeem to Bahrain or not.” Chatchom said that if the request did not fall in line with Thai extradition law then no request would be made to the court and Araibi would be released when his 60-day detention order expires on Feb. 5. “The Extradition Act of 2008 stated clearly that for a country with no extradition treaty with Thailand, like Bahrain, we have to see various factors including their government request to determine whether it falls in line with our laws,” Chatchom said. Bahrain has criticised “external interference” in Manama’s internal affairs and said Araibi can return to appeal against the sentence, noting that others arrested with Araibi who have done so have been acquitted. Soccer’s world governing body FIFA also released a statement on Tuesday in which Secretary General Fatma Samoura called on the Thai and Bahraini authorities to ensure Araibi could “go back safely to Australia as a matter of urgency”. -- © Copyright Reuters 2019-01-29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 so how can he convince the Thais, as to whether the 'vandal' conviction is a set up? all so alike to the Assange/Swede (with the US in the background) thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmen Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Which PM this week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Hmm, not a photo, not a vinyl flow chart, not an early morning press conference and not a BJ Hakpal to be seen.? Conspicuous by its absence the immigration cops and the matter being overseen by the criminal court. Is someone above Mr Publicity looking for a big payday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stud858 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 PM sent a letter. What a mastermind powerful leader thing to do. Good on you PM of Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 28 minutes ago, stud858 said: PM sent a letter. What a mastermind powerful leader thing to do. Good on you PM of Australia. Well, he missed the first bus ( Saudi lady ) so he's jumped on the next bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 10 hours ago, snoop1130 said: “The PM reminded the Thai prime minister that he is a refugee that has been given permanent residency, he should be released,” one source familiar with the details of the letter told Reuters. where are those mooners about thailand's international reputation now ? thailand misses yet another opportunity to achieve a better result in the eyes of the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 10 hours ago, madmen said: Which PM this week? Hang on, it's not friday yet!! ???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emdog Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Thailand does like to declare itself "hub" of various bits of foolishness. They need to be careful, might become known as "hub of in transit extradition". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorG Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 10 hours ago, stud858 said: PM sent a letter. What a mastermind powerful leader thing to do. Good on you PM of Australia. Was he supposed to declare war? Both the Defence Minister and the Foreign Minister have been to Th and made representations. Anything further would be viewed as meddling in THs affairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stud858 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 hour ago, DoctorG said: Was he supposed to declare war? Both the Defence Minister and the Foreign Minister have been to Th and made representations. Anything further would be viewed as meddling in THs affairs. I just saw on Australia news that a letter was sent. Nothing was mentioned of travel to Thailand. Are you sure? Of course that's what's should be done. Have you got an article link? Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seajae Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 15 minutes ago, stud858 said: I just saw on Australia news that a letter was sent. Nothing was mentioned of travel to Thailand. Are you sure? Of course that's what's should be done. Have you got an article link? Cheers. was in all the aussie press they were here and was also on TV news, guess you didnt read the articles, I did, maybe you should try searching for it yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Unbelievable that Thailand could even consider any option, except allowing the player to return to Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Explain to me the 'monies' involved here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 13 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Soccer’s world governing body FIFA Football’s world governing body...that’s what the second F stands for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stud858 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 36 minutes ago, seajae said: was in all the aussie press they were here and was also on TV news, guess you didnt read the articles, I did, maybe you should try searching for it yourself https://www.sbs.com.au/news/australia-calls-on-thai-officials-to-immediately-return-refugee-footballer I found this but maybe the representation paragraph is being read as someone travelled to Thailand. I don't think so. Haven't found anything yet. If anyone can point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it and offer you 5 of my cryptocurrency, studcoin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simtemple Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Australian weasel Scott Morris will intervene on behalf of a political dissident from Bahrain, but does nothing for an Australian citizen held illegally by evil British fascists in London, on behalf of the Evil Empire for 8 years. He worries about Thailand not complying with International law, but the loathsome scumbag recognises the unelected American puppet, Venezuelan death squad organiser Jullio Gauido, in the CIA's illegal attempt to overthrow the legitimately elected government of oil rich Venezuela. Hypocrisy on stilts. The Thai Government should listen to this Australian slime ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 4 hours ago, YetAnother said: where are those mooners about thailand's international reputation now ? thailand misses yet another opportunity to achieve a better result in the eyes of the world Thailand is a member of Interpol. Interpol issued a notice on this man at the request of another member Bahrain. Thailand executed on the notice and then find he's actually a refugee who has been given PR in Australia. Thailand has to unravel all the implications and contradictions before doing, hopefully, what most people see as "the right thing". Dot the i's cross the t's so no one can complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, simtemple said: Australian weasel Scott Morris will intervene on behalf of a political dissident from Bahrain, but does nothing for an Australian citizen held illegally by evil British fascists in London, on behalf of the Evil Empire for 8 years. He worries about Thailand not complying with International law, but the loathsome scumbag recognises the unelected American puppet, Venezuelan death squad organiser Jullio Gauido, in the CIA's illegal attempt to overthrow the legitimately elected government of oil rich Venezuela. Hypocrisy on stilts. The Thai Government should listen to this Australian slime ball. What on earth are you on about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farcanell Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 hour ago, stud858 said: https://www.sbs.com.au/news/australia-calls-on-thai-officials-to-immediately-return-refugee-footballer I found this but maybe the representation paragraph is being read as someone travelled to Thailand. I don't think so. Haven't found anything yet. If anyone can point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it and offer you 5 of my cryptocurrency, studcoin. I’ll see your stud-coin, and raise you a farced-coin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farcanell Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 2 hours ago, stud858 said: I just saw on Australia news that a letter was sent. Nothing was mentioned of travel to Thailand. Are you sure? Of course that's what's should be done. Have you got an article link? Cheers. There ya go.... now I want my stud-coins. “Australia’s foreign affairs minister, Marise Payne, told ABC radio on Wednesday her government was “very deeply concerned” by Al-Araibi’s ongoing detention. She noted she had met with the deputy prime minister, minister for justice and the minister for foreign affairs earlier this month in Thailand, and “we have most definitely ensured the Thai government is well aware at all levels of the great importance of this matter to Australia”. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/24/please-help-me-refugee-footballer-hakeem-al-araibi-tells-of-his-thai-jail-ordeal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farcanell Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 40 minutes ago, simtemple said: Australian weasel Scott Morris will intervene on behalf of a political dissident from Bahrain, but does nothing for an Australian citizen held illegally by evil British fascists in London, on behalf of the Evil Empire for 8 years. He worries about Thailand not complying with International law, but the loathsome scumbag recognises the unelected American puppet, Venezuelan death squad organiser Jullio Gauido, in the CIA's illegal attempt to overthrow the legitimately elected government of oil rich Venezuela. Hypocrisy on stilts. The Thai Government should listen to this Australian slime ball. Wow Scott Morris?.... Scott Morrison? political dissident?... Al Araibi? Australian citizen?.... Assanges.? British Facists? ... HM government? Evil Empire?.... US government? loathsome scumbag?... Morrison again? American puppet... Gauido.... got that.... ???? Slimeball?.... Morrison again? Nothing quite like a clear and definitive post to erudiate your point of view. IE, an overwhelming hatred of.... stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 I would like to know what is going on behind the scene in Thailand, what is their motive for detaining him? What can be gained by locking him up, what are they waiting for? I'm not buying into the mumbo jumbo spouted by Chatchom Akapin about waiting to see if there is a case for the extradition surely that would have been known from the get go. Also he could have been released prior to receiving the extradition request. They made a mess of the case involving the young Saudi woman, and in spite of stating they would be more balanced in their approach in future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 3 hours ago, DoctorG said: Was he supposed to declare war? Both the Defence Minister and the Foreign Minister have been to Th and made representations. Anything further would be viewed as meddling in THs affairs. Marisa Payne is the Foreign Minister who recently visited Thailand, Payne up until a few months ago was the Defense Minister. It was only Payne who visited Thailand recently. I think it unlikely the Defense Minister would get involved in this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 It seems that the Arab dictator states use interpol warrants as an extension of their dictatorships. 15 hours ago, tifino said: so how can he convince the Thais, as to whether the 'vandal' conviction is a set up? all so alike to the Assange/Swede (with the US in the background) thing! There is no common characteristic between the Assange case and Al Araibi's. What part of REFUGEE status did you miss? No one has extended Assange refugee status, not even his hosts, the nation of Ecuador. There are specific legal protections and obligations that attach once refugee status is extended. However, one must first be granted refugee status, once one has entered into a foreign country. Mr. Assange is an accused criminal who is alleged to have provided Roger Stone the diabolical slime ball and supporter of Trump, with stolen information. Mr. Al Araibi is falsely accused of a crime, arising from the insult of a Bahraini bigshot. See the difference? 15 hours ago, stud858 said: PM sent a letter. What a mastermind powerful leader thing to do. Good on you PM of Australia. This is how diplomatic actions are undertaken. It is the civil way they do things. The Australian PM cannot very well threaten an invasion can he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopDeadSenter Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 58 minutes ago, Baerboxer said: Thailand is a member of Interpol. Interpol issued a notice on this man at the request of another member Bahrain. Thailand executed on the notice and then find he's actually a refugee who has been given PR in Australia. Thailand has to unravel all the implications and contradictions before doing, hopefully, what most people see as "the right thing". Dot the i's cross the t's so no one can complain. Does this apparent refugee/PR status given by Australia mean the lad is immune from prosecution for his vandalism and fleeing from Bahraini justice? I would have thought he should be tried and punished back home in Bahrain first before trotting off to fair pastures down under. You know what they say, if you can't do the time.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 20 minutes ago, geriatrickid said: It seems that the Arab dictator states use interpol warrants as an extension of their dictatorships. There is no common characteristic between the Assange case and Al Araibi's. What part of REFUGEE status did you miss? No one has extended Assange refugee status, not even his hosts, the nation of Ecuador. There are specific legal protections and obligations that attach once refugee status is extended. However, one must first be granted refugee status, once one has entered into a foreign country. Mr. Assange is an accused criminal who is alleged to have provided Roger Stone the diabolical slime ball and supporter of Trump, with stolen information. Mr. Al Araibi is falsely accused of a crime, arising from the insult of a Bahraini bigshot. See the difference? This is how diplomatic actions are undertaken. It is the civil way they do things. The Australian PM cannot very well threaten an invasion can he? my angle was simply: - the arabs are hiding behind and using Interpol, to do their dirty work; ignoring the lad's protection under the UN diplomacy, - the US hid, simply quietly, behind UK and Swede activity, ready to pounce, as soon a Assange is not under diplomatic protection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stud858 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 hour ago, farcanell said: There ya go.... now I want my stud-coins. “Australia’s foreign affairs minister, Marise Payne, told ABC radio on Wednesday her government was “very deeply concerned” by Al-Araibi’s ongoing detention. She noted she had met with the deputy prime minister, minister for justice and the minister for foreign affairs earlier this month in Thailand, and “we have most definitely ensured the Thai government is well aware at all levels of the great importance of this matter to Australia”. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/24/please-help-me-refugee-footballer-hakeem-al-araibi-tells-of-his-thai-jail-ordeal Thanks Farcanell, I was disheartened because I had only seen the news about a letter from PM without a reply after a week so thought the Aussie government were doing their usual not giving two hoots. Bring Tony Abbott back as a minister and his shirt fronts. I can only imagine that this chap will be sent back to Oz after paperwork and fees have been paid. Farcanell, your studcoin are in the post, but unfortunately there was a crash overnight. Sorry. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Christmas13 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 16 hours ago, madmen said: Which PM this week? At least we got an elected one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stud858 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 hour ago, geriatrickid said: It seems that the Arab dictator states use interpol warrants as an extension of their dictatorships. There is no common characteristic between the Assange case and Al Araibi's. What part of REFUGEE status did you miss? No one has extended Assange refugee status, not even his hosts, the nation of Ecuador. There are specific legal protections and obligations that attach once refugee status is extended. However, one must first be granted refugee status, once one has entered into a foreign country. Mr. Assange is an accused criminal who is alleged to have provided Roger Stone the diabolical slime ball and supporter of Trump, with stolen information. Mr. Al Araibi is falsely accused of a crime, arising from the insult of a Bahraini bigshot. See the difference? This is how diplomatic actions are undertaken. It is the civil way they do things. The Australian PM cannot very well threaten an invasion can he? Just do like the Chinese. Arrest some Thais back in Oz. Just kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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