Need Advice on my Visa

[Buffet]

Hi everyone!

 

Two months ago I left DMK airport and the IO didn't ask any documents from me regarding my current non-b. I went to Vietnam and applied for tourist visa. Came back to BKK. Everything went smoothly. Recently my new school tried to apply for my new non-b but was told that I have overstayed my last visa. I was told to pay 8,500 B because I overstayed for 17 days. I tried to point to the stamp that stated my WP was cancelled on the 12th, which would have been 2,500 baht. The IO told me that they goes by the date the school put down, not the stamped date. The IO suggested that I could get a new passport if I don't want to pay the penalty. But there is not enough time to get a new passport due to the recent shutdown in the states. So I was thinking of crossing over at Poipet and exit at a later date to Malaysia or Vietnam for my new non-b. Does anyone knows if once I get a new non-b from oversea and when it time to file for the extension in BKK, will the IO bother to look at the old non-b? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.

[JackThompson]

Avoid Poipet - always.  If you wanted a visa-exempt entry, you could use any other land-border but that one (2x per calendar year). 

 

Others have more experience for the rest, below - just guesswork on my part.

 

As you are here now stamped-in as a Tourist, were you attempting to get a Non-B 90-day stamp from immigration, so you could then apply for a Non-B extension?  It was very nice of the last IO to suggest a new passport as a workaround, but the context of this seems unclear to me.
 

2 hours ago, Buffet said:

I was told to pay 8,500 B because I overstayed for 17 days. I tried to point to the stamp that stated my WP was cancelled on the 12th, which would have been 2,500 baht. The IO told me that they goes by the date the school put down, not the stamped date.

Are all these dates and stamps in your passport?  I assume your old work-permit is gone, now.

 

Given it is illegal here to work while on a Tourist Visa or Visa-Exempt, it would seem you could go out to a nearby consulate for another Non-B Visa from a nearby consulate, with supporting paperwork from your employer.  

 

When applying for your next Non-B extension, it is unknowable whether the next IO would then dig through your passport (with the Non-B Visa) looking for something.

Edited February 6, 2019 by JackThompson

[Buffet]

Hi Jack,

 

Why avoid Poi Pet? The dates and stamps are not in my passport. The Ministry of Labor gave me a separate document regarding when my WP was cancelled. My passport only the old non-b which suppose to expire in August 2019 and my new tourist visa.

[JackThompson]

1 minute ago, Buffet said:

Hi Jack,

 

Why avoid Poi Pet?

 

Poi Pet - you can search this forum for the many reports on why.  If doing a quick out/in - even staying overnight - you risk being given an official denial of entry. 

 

1 minute ago, Buffet said:

The dates and stamps are not in my passport. The Ministry of Labor gave me a separate document regarding when my WP was cancelled. My passport only the old non-b which suppose to expire in August 2019 and my new tourist visa.

Ok.  I haven't done the working bit - maybe someone who has more experience can be more precise - I am just going by what I have read here.

 

The problem seems to be that your Labor-doc shows an WP-cancellation which does not correspond to when you stamped-out on your last Non-B extension - correct?

 

In that case, if you have to show that Labor-doc in the future, immigration will still have a record of your stamp-out in their Database - even if you had a new passport.

 

Perhaps - given what the IO told you - by presenting a passport w/o the old Non-B extension in it, you would not be asked for that Labor-doc?  In that case, I can see why you would rather get a new passport - on a new permitted-stay - before doing your next Non-B Visa run, and beginning that process. 

 

You could do a Visa-Exempt run at any land-border with Cambodia (except Poi Pet) or Laos - leaving and returning the same day.  Then apply/get your new passport, then do your Non-B Visa run and begin working your new job (cannot legally work before the Non-B and work-permit, though many teachers report there is no other way but to take the risk).

[Buffet]

Hi Jack,

 

Thank you so much, that was very helpful!