Effective difference between extension that expires February and one that expires after March 1st

[bigginhill]

Can anyone tell me effectively what difference there is? As the rules come in on March 1st, what benefits would a February expiry have? 

Would the 3month and 6month after apply?

Anything else? 

[watcharacters]

 

It'd be great to have a capitalization of this whole immigration change matter.    In Thailand that may be difficult.  Not  only do so  many Imm.  offices choose to  do independent interpretations of the regulations   but additionally the rules coming from  the head office change  on a regular basis.    

[Lacessit]

As I understand it, the new rules start when your current extension expires. So if your extension expired in February, your next extension would require you to retain 800,000 baht on deposit for three months after renewal. And 400,000 after that.

On the other hand, when my extension expires November 3, I only have to have 800,000 baht on deposit from August 3. Before that, nothing required to be on deposit.

On that basis, one is disadvantaged by a February expiry.

Quite happy to be corrected on this, IF my understanding is erroneous.

[notamember]

35 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

As I understand it, the new rules start when your current extension expires. So if your extension expired in February, your next extension would require you to retain 800,000 baht on deposit for three months after renewal. And 400,000 after that.

On the other hand, when my extension expires November 3, I only have to have 800,000 baht on deposit from August 3. Before that, nothing required to be on deposit.

On that basis, one is disadvantaged by a February expiry.

Quite happy to be corrected on this, IF my understanding is erroneous.

at Jomtien Immigration if you renew before March 1st 2019 , the new rules do not apply to you

So if you have a renewal on March 28th 2019 expiry, do it 30 days early on February 28th 2019 as is allowed by them and dodge the March 1st 2019 bullet

you will lose no time by doing it early, the new extension will be added to the expiry date of the old extension

It will then only apply next March 28th 2020 when you do your next renewal

[Lacessit]

19 minutes ago, notamember said:

at Jomtien Immigration if you renew before March 1st 2019 , the new rules do not apply to you

So if you have a renewal on March 28th 2019 expiry, do it 30 days early on February 28th 2019 as is allowed by them and dodge the March 1st 2019 bullet

you will lose no time by doing it early, the new extension will be added to the expiry date of the old extension

It will then only apply next March 28th 2020 when you do your next renewal

I think you are right. However, if it is done a month earlier, doesn't that push the existing 800,000 baht seasoning requirement back one month as well?

[notamember]

7 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I think you are right. However, if it is done a month earlier, doesn't that push the existing 800,000 baht seasoning requirement back one month as well?

yes it does

[steve187]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

As I understand it, the new rules start when your current extension expires. So if your extension expired in February, your next extension would require you to retain 800,000 baht on deposit for three months after renewal. And 400,000 after that.

On the other hand, when my extension expires November 3, I only have to have 800,000 baht on deposit from August 3. Before that, nothing required to be on deposit.

On that basis, one is disadvantaged by a February expiry.

Quite happy to be corrected on this, IF my understanding is erroneous.

you need the 800,000 3 months before application, not renewal

[bigginhill]

26 minutes ago, notamember said:

at Jomtien Immigration if you renew before March 1st 2019 , the new rules do not apply to you

So if you have a renewal on March 28th 2019 expiry, do it 30 days early on February 28th 2019 as is allowed by them and dodge the March 1st 2019 bullet

you will lose no time by doing it early, the new extension will be added to the expiry date of the old extension

It will then only apply next March 28th 2020 when you do your next renewal

"It will then only apply next March 28th 2020 when you do your next renewal" 

And on that date you have to produce the documentation of 12 months 2019 regarding the deposits of 65,000.?

If yes, then the deposit retirees have to have 3/6/3  800/400/800?

How, s that different to a February expiry? 

[notamember]

1 minute ago, bigginhill said:

"It will then only apply next March 28th 2020 when you do your next renewal" 

And on that date you have to produce the documentation of 12 months 2019 regarding the deposits of 65,000.?

If yes, then the deposit retirees have to have 3/6/3  800/400/800?

How, s that different to a February expiry? 

the rule will not apply until next renewal time for them in March 28th 2020

next time they will be subject to the rule and show 800 on renewal then 800 then 400 then 400

 

there are no 65,000 baht monthly deposits needed with cash deposit in the bank on file

 

[bigginhill]

18 minutes ago, notamember said:

the rule will not apply until next renewal time for them in March 28th 2020

next time they will be subject to the rule and show 800 on renewal then 800 then 400 then 400

 

there are no 65,000 baht monthly deposits needed with cash deposit in the bank on file

 

I understand or 800,000 OR 65,000.

 

But are you saying a february 2019 expiry would  show 800,000 3 months before (nov 2018) and can take out straight away during 2019? Then in February 2020??? What would they present at February 2020 extension? 

And only who renews in  March 2020 will have to have 3/6/3 400/800/400  OR 65,000 x 12 OR combo? 

[notamember]

1 hour ago, bigginhill said:

I understand or 800,000 OR 65,000.

 

But are you saying a february 2019 expiry would  show 800,000 3 months before (nov 2018) and can take out straight away during 2019? Then in February 2020??? What would they present at February 2020 extension? 

And only who renews in  March 2020 will have to have 3/6/3 400/800/400  OR 65,000 x 12 OR combo? 

But are you saying a February 2019 expiry would  show 800,000 3 months before (nov 2018) and can take out straight away during 2019?

yes same as usual

Then in February 2020??? What would they present at February 2020 extension? 

not February the expiry would still be March 28th 2020, the original expiry day

then show a seasoned 800K on date of application , then 800K 3 months later then 400k 3 months after then 800k again and renew

 

 

[bigginhill]

16 minutes ago, notamember said:

But are you saying a February 2019 expiry would  show 800,000 3 months before (nov 2018) and can take out straight away during 2019?

yes same as usual

Then in February 2020??? What would they present at February 2020 extension? 

not February the expiry would still be March 28th 2020, the original expiry day

the show a seasoned 800K on date of application , then 800K then 400k then 400k

 

 

Forgive me but where does the 28th march come from? 

March 1st is the new rule date. 

I,m trying to figure the difference between a february expiry and renewal  date and a march expiry and renewal date. 

[notamember]

1 hour ago, bigginhill said:

Forgive me but where does the 28th march come from? 

March 1st is the new rule date. 

I,m trying to figure the difference between a february expiry and renewal  date and a march expiry and renewal date. 

it was a hypothetical date in a previous post to create an example to follow

''at Jomtien Immigration if you renew before March 1st 2019 , the new rules do not apply to you

So if you have a renewal on March 28th 2019 expiry, do it 30 days early on February 28th 2019 as is allowed by them and dodge the March 1st 2019 bullet

you will lose no time by doing it early, the new extension will be added to the expiry date of the old extension, the new rules will then only apply next March 28th 2020 when you do your next renewal''

 

 

[Lacessit]

3 hours ago, steve187 said:

you need the 800,000 3 months before application, not renewal

Good point.