1 hour ago, ubonjoe said:

There is nothing in the written rules that it has to be on or near the same day every month.

True - but Jomtien disagree.

24 minutes ago, wgdanson said:

I stand corrected sir. So 1st Jan, 28th Feb, 1st March, 30th April etc would be accepted? 

That example is little over the top.

More like within a week or 2 is what I meant.

10 minutes ago, pontious said:

True - but Jomtien disagree.

But it not on the exact same day every month which would be  impossible since banks are closed on holidays and weekend.

Mine can vary from the 1st to the 4th of month dependent upon on weekends or holidays here or in the source country.

Just pay an agent to sort this stuff out.

31 minutes ago, Dave98 said:

Leave

 

 

I will be making enquiries with agents before I leave for Vietnam. 

 

If immigration are happy to turn a blind eye to just about everything, if you use an agent, it may actually be financially beneficial to use them, and a lot less time consuming, and less stress involved. 

 

This could be an option for many, and may even see people jump off the 800k method and use agents.

Soi Khao Talo beside the Booze Lounge is a small office, she goes to Bangkok where she was working before.

Take 20k and your papers, give it to her and wait about 4 weeks.

BUT, you need to have at least 21 days left on your 30 days tourist Visa.

You will get a 3 month non O plus retirement 1 year visa.

For what it's worth - I came to Thailand at the end of 2008. Later I left to work elsewhere and then came back in January 2018, so in all I’ve lived in Thailand for just over four and a half years. The changes when I returned were stark. The old ‘characters’ I remember had left for rehab clinics back home, or been deported and in their place were the Europeans with high pensions, and/or those from anywhere with a certain amount of wealth. More than a few had left for destinations such as Cambodia. Largely gone were the Farang hotels and in their place offers of ‎฿5m condos in near empty sky rise blocks and offers of a Thai elite 20 year visa for only ‎฿2m! Half a million for five years if you’re strapped for cash?  

  

In my recent application for a marriage visa lasting around 15 minutes, two thirds passed in trying to discover how much I was worth. Even my medical was returned to me across the desk as not being needed. Having a settled address in a house I paid for, looking after my wife, contributing socially to society previously as a teacher and before that a volunteer didn’t matter. Big Joke’s phrase of ‘good guys in bad guys out’ has changed to ‘rich in not rich out’, with ever increasing attempts by immigration to define the term ‘rich.’

 

Thailand was never a rich man’s playground. Millionaires do not generally choose a developing country to retire to and there is a distinct lack of men in business suits standing in the immigration queues at Suvarnabhumi airport. Thailand was always the ordinary man’s destination after a lifetime of drudgery in the west, where he could dip his feet in a blue sea and buy a sausage on a stick from a street vendor.

          

Who knows what new rules will be implemented tomorrow? I’m pessimistic about the future and I’m in Thailand with one foot here and the other back in the west. If I leave, maybe I’ll come back as a tourist occasionally, or maybe in Cambodia where immigration rules are much easier and less likely to change. Yet for every genuine Farang that can support themselves and is forced to leave it’s another nail in Thailand’s economy.  

Edited April 8, 20197 yr by John V

i am so happy i am not your IO

They make it pretty clear......HAS TO BE into a Thai bank

Fact is you didn't do what you were asked to do. That wouldn't be accepted anywhere, not only in Thailand.

 

what is an OA visa?

7 minutes ago, fgmr said:

 

what is an OA visa?

Generally referred to as a "Retirement Visa" and issued outside the Kingdom.

18 hours ago, fgmr said:

 

what is an OA visa?

A type of Non Immigrant 'Other' visa, valid for multiple entries of 1 year stay each and valid for 1 year. In UK:-

For applicants aged 50 and over who wish to stay in Thailand for an extended period without the intention of working.

Can only be obtained in your home or resident country.

http://www.thaiembassy.org/london/en/services/7742/84508-Non-Immigrant-visas.html

 

Edited May 21, 20197 yr by jacko45k

On 4/8/2019 at 8:48 AM, John V said:

Big Joke’s phrase of ‘good guys in bad guys out’ has changed to ‘rich in not rich out’, with ever increasing attempts by immigration to define the term ‘rich.’

In the Thai mentality rich foreigner = good foreigner, poor foreigner = bad foreigner.

Edited May 21, 20197 yr by mngmn

On 3/6/2019 at 4:59 PM, marcusarelus said:

Where should he go to get a non O based on retirement?

Can an agency not make this a moot point? Or am I not understanding something??

On 3/6/2019 at 8:35 PM, moe666 said:

The new rules are 65,000b deposited in a Thai Bank account each and every month. If you are one of the 4 nations who no longer provides the income letter. A lot of people are being caught out who do not keep up to date on the news in Thailand

I was wondering if an average income of 65k a month is valid, say if one month showed 50k and the next 80k would that be acceptable?

1 minute ago, soalbundy said:

I was wondering if an average income of 65k a month is valid, say if one month showed 50k and the next 80k would that be acceptable?

There is no average income allowed for an extension based upon retirement.

15 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

I was wondering if an average income of 65k a month is valid, say if one month showed 50k and the next 80k would that be acceptable?

That is the one point that has been made clear - it must be 65k or more each and every month.  

There is a problem with immigration policy: required is a pension and when it refers to a pension from the U.S., it means the social security income, not annuities. When the immigration says you can use a retirement visa after age 50, the requirement is the sole SSI. this is wrong since you cannot get an income from SSI until 62 (early), 67(normal age).
So, in this case, your only option is to put 25,000+ USD in a Thai bank and say goodby to it.


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On 6/7/2019 at 2:17 PM, inlandchris said:

There is a problem with immigration policy: required is a pension and when it refers to a pension from the U.S., it means the social security income...

Could also be U.S. VA benefits, or military retirement. 

I was recently told at CM immigration that these military pensions were much preferred over any sort of annuity, or stock dividends, etc.  Going into a Thai bank.

The funds must be deposited into a Thai Bank. 

2 hours ago, DeathShroud said:

Could also be U.S. VA benefits, or military retirement. 

I was recently told at CM immigration that these military pensions were much preferred over any sort of annuity, or stock dividends, etc.  Going into a Thai bank.

I don't know how you could commutate with these people and keep a straight face.

On 6/7/2019 at 2:17 PM, inlandchris said:

There is a problem with immigration policy: required is a pension and when it refers to a pension from the U.S., it means the social security income, not annuities. When the immigration says you can use a retirement visa after age 50, the requirement is the sole SSI. this is wrong since you cannot get an income from SSI until 62 (early), 67(normal age).
So, in this case, your only option is to put 25,000+ USD in a Thai bank and say goodby to it.


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Thanks for the clarification! What I don't understand is that some people who are married to a Thai woman don't go to Savannakhet and apply for a Multiple Entry Non-O, based on marriage?

 

   There's NO financial proof needed and I'd guess being older than 50 doesn't make it impossible to go that way.

 

The only negative part of it is to leave the country every 90 days, which can be a lot of fun, too. 

 

But having a Filipina wife's changing all. Aren't there others on this forum who're married to a Filipina who know what to do?

 

  Any advice would be deeply appreciated. What really annoys me is the rule that you "only have to show 400,000 baht" when married, but "800,000 baht when being single"? ????

 

  That's in no way fair to those who aren't married to a Thai citizen, it doesn't make any sense to me. Wouldn't a married couple need more money per month than a single man? My apologies, I just don't get it. 

 

  

   

 

  

Edited June 9, 20197 yr by Isaanbiker

Could also be U.S. VA benefits, or military retirement. 
I was recently told at CM immigration that these military pensions were much preferred over any sort of annuity, or stock dividends, etc.  Going into a Thai bank.

Military pensions preferred? Wondering if it Is because the new PM is/was a general?


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Its not 65,000 per month, its 800,000 / 12 = 66,666.67 per month in a Thai bank or more. With dwindling exchange rate, it will get harder or borrow 800k, put in a bank and make payments to pay back your loan.


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14 minutes ago, inlandchris said:

Its not 65,000 per month, its 800,000 / 12 = 66,666.67 per month in a Thai bank or more. With dwindling exchange rate, it will get harder or borrow 800k, put in a bank and make payments to pay back your loan.


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It is 65k per month if using income method.

It is 65k per month if using income method.

Wrong


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20 minutes ago, inlandchris said:

Wrong


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The amount is 65,000 per month and it is so stated in official regulations.

https://forum.thaivisa.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=561475

The amount is 65,000 per month and it is so stated in official regulations.
https://forum.thaivisa.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=561475

Not there at your link and its not the new regulations. It is ever-evolving as the gov’t is brand new and has not form a government yet. All these changes occurred during and after the elections. The new regulations, so far, is to have in the bank or monthly income to equal that amount in the bank of 800,000. This is from my lawyer.


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1 minute ago, inlandchris said:

This is from my lawyer.

And you believe him!