Air pollution surpasses measurable levels

[Golden Triangle]

4 hours ago, Henryford said:

How many firestarters have been jailed? Let me guess none.

Probably not, but they did bury this one last week 

 

 

[Sydebolle]

I wonder if the clowns-in-chief know, what a telephone directory is.

If yes, then call - among others - the CP group as they apparently are partly responsible for the burning of harvested corn fields (for their chicken).

Alternatively look up the number of the rainmaking division.

Or call the air force for massive water dumping.

Or reinforce the law punishing land owners according to new laws to be crafted under article 44.

The will is missing - hence everything else becomes obsolete. 

[DrTuner]

Had to call US and Oz eh, that must've been painful, like grinding face on a spinning tire. I want more of it, never gets old. Mooooaarrrrhh!

[tlandtday]

Makes one truly wonder if some deserve to be custodians of these lands.

[cerox]

They enjoy the grey/white sky, saves money for sunblocker ????

And mushrooms, two birds with one stone.

[malibukid]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

And I replied. And you ignored it. Really? I have to educate you about the issues pertaining to diesel engines that are not well maintained? 

strict emission testing for all vehicles is needed here.  we had a major smog problem in LA in the sixties.  problem solved.  at the time of renewing your registration you have to show your smog certificate. 

[thequietman]

A student from my Uni died this morning due to complications from this pollution.

 

Nobody cares about this massive pollution and fires every where. A young lady has lost her life and 2 older ladies in my village also because they couldn't breathe. It is a sad state of affairs and who will do anything about it?

 

No one. ????

[DrTuner]

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

And lastly, the proliferation of diesel vehicles here, and the toxic fumes they spew when not maintained properly. 

It's a relly good thing they turned off all diesel cars in Pattaya, amazingly at the same time the wind turned southerly. AQI 21.

[bobthomas]

5 hours ago, farang63 said:

this is not the way to solve the problem, the problem of fires is resolved by training the soldiers and sending them around day and night and controlling the areas and thus arresting the people who put fire and put them in prison for years, confiscate their assets in based on the damage they did and close off, delimit the area with a no-transit zone, look for mushrooms and everything for 10 years, oblige the farmers not to burn the stubble with a minimum processing of the rice stubble, fertilize the soil and eliminate the smoke the fire burns, for those who do not respect these orders confiscate the land and all their property for years and put incendiaries in prison for years, around, send the soldiers to check the countryside day and night, those who burn plastic and stuff to stop seize their property and in prison for years, within 1-2 years eliminated the problem and eliminated many stupid unconscious people who do not respect the environment

A combination of 1st World legislation, convoluted through a draconian enforcement, and then applied within a 3rd World context. What could go wrong?

 

The entire solution ignores the fundamentals of the relations of power, wealth and inequality in SEA.

 

Kind regards,

 

Old and yet still virile, (where's my Viagra)

 

Come what may.

 

Uncle Bob's.......your Uncle

 

 

 

 

 

[cerox]

Emission testing. But not for red trucks and tuktuks, they are exempt ????

[khunpa]

3 hours ago, thequietman said:

A student from my Uni died this morning due to complications from this pollution.

 

Nobody cares about this massive pollution and fires every where. A young lady has lost her life and 2 older ladies in my village also because they couldn't breathe. It is a sad state of affairs and who will do anything about it?

 

No one. ????

Honestly, I also think nothing will really be done. And it is extremely sad.

 

I think the only thing, that maybe could fix this, would be the Thais finally in large numbers showing they have had enough. We all know that will most likely never happen. 

 

The crazy thing is, that we in my home country are spending so much money and time on reducing pollution, only to see Thailand care less. Really damn sad.

 

 

 

[Creasy]

Can't they just send up some drones to spray maple syrup like they did in Bangkok ?

[Odysseus123]

1 minute ago, Creasy said:

Can't they just send up some drones to spray maple syrup like they did in Bangkok ?

Woah boy..are you crazy?

 

Maple syrup costs money..

[chilidog]

Every year by my house the mountain is set on fire. Its nothing big just a slow moving trail of fire

that moves fairly slow. All you need is a rake to put it out. I have already done it a few times

with some property I had. My wife says the guys who hunt set the fires so when they go out hunting its easier to walk and they can see better, this is also on top of the farmers who burn and don't care if the fire goes into the forest. Not sure why people keep blaming vehicle emissions when the entire country is on fire in February and March. Is it not this obvious to everyone else?

[spidermike007]

On 4/4/2019 at 12:27 AM, thequietman said:

A student from my Uni died this morning due to complications from this pollution.

 

Nobody cares about this massive pollution and fires every where. A young lady has lost her life and 2 older ladies in my village also because they couldn't breathe. It is a sad state of affairs and who will do anything about it?

 

No one. ????

This is a life threatening situation. And the army, as usual, does nearly nothing about it. This is a problem they should have been working on, from day one. If they were not in the pocket of lobbyists, and if they cared one iota about the common man.

[Prissana Pescud]

On 4/4/2019 at 6:47 AM, inThailand said:

There is a better chance of winning the lottery than fixing the smog problem in 7 days. 

 

Let it be written, let it be done.

If it rains heavily and that is possible, Mr Prayut will be the saviour. If not he can blame the authorities.

I do hope it rains heavily. We are getting some every 3 days in Prachinburi. The air is finally breathable.

But between rain, last minute burning is still happening. It will take more than govt officials to fix this problem. It is ingrained

[inThailand]

Next solution... 

 

Piss into the wind. 

[Kieran00001]

On 4/4/2019 at 11:28 AM, Vacuum said:

You wrote the same thing a month or two ago, and I asked you to expand your theory on this. Well, you didn't, hence I'm asking again.

 

BTW, the bolded part is absolutely nonsens.

 

Of course bad oil will effect emmissions as it effects the efficiency of the engine and it will burn richer and with greater residue, also changing fuel and air filters reduce emmissions for the same reason, ask anyone at a testing centre they will confirm.

[Kieran00001]

On 4/4/2019 at 1:04 PM, Khaeng Mak said:

Spider Mike.  I like your posts.  But he has got you on this one.  How clean or dirty the oil is in a diesel engine will have no impact whatsoever on its emissions.

 

What will make a difference is the state of the piston rings, injectors, and fume reticulation system.

 

You might be right, it might only have a noticable effect in a petrol engine, the old manual choked engines were massively affected by old oil as over choking gets oil in the fuel and old oil is more smoky than new, but newer petrol engines are still affected due to the change in viscosity changing efficiency.

[Oziex1]

Where are the headlines stating.

"Top lawyers say lazy and incompetent officials face jail time for allowing pollution to go unchecked for so long."

[Vacuum]

25 minutes ago, Kieran00001 said:

Of course bad oil will effect emmissions as it effects the efficiency of the engine and it will burn richer

The oil in your crankcase/oil pan serves one purpose; to lubricate moving parts that are rubbing against each other in the engine. How could that effect emissions?

Edited April 11, 2019 by Vacuum

[CGW]

1 hour ago, Kieran00001 said:

but newer petrol engines are still affected due to the change in viscosity changing efficiency.

Really? convince me with some facts please.

[Kieran00001]

1 hour ago, Vacuum said:

The oil in your crankcase/oil pan serves one purpose; to lubricate moving parts that are rubbing against each other in the engine. How could that effect emissions?

 

Emissions are effected by the efficiency of the engine, its pretty obvious that friction in an engine caused by old oil will effect this.

[Kieran00001]

16 minutes ago, CGW said:

Really? convince me with some facts please.

That was a fact. 

 

Are you denying that an engines efficiency affects emmissions?  Or are you denying that lubrication affects an engines efficiency?  Or perhaps its denial of the change in viscosity of engine oil over time resulting in increased friction? 

 

Tell me, why do you change oil in an engine? 

[CGW]

1 minute ago, Kieran00001 said:

That was a fact. 

 

Are you denying that an engines efficiency affects emmissions?  Or are you denying that lubrication affects an engines efficiency?  Or perhaps its denial of the change in viscosity of engine oil over time resulting in increased friction? 

 

Tell me, why do you change oil in an engine? 

No denials or otherwise here, you stated that 

 

20 minutes ago, CGW said:

newer petrol engines are still affected due to the change in viscosity changing efficiency

the fuel system is not affected by the bottom end of the engine, it either burns fuel cleanly or it doesn't, if the oil break down over time there will be very small extra load, barely measurable, you would see a loss of oil pressure, but that wouldn't effect how clean the fuel burns.

[Kieran00001]

1 hour ago, CGW said:

No denials or otherwise here, you stated that 

 

the fuel system is not affected by the bottom end of the engine, it either burns fuel cleanly or it doesn't, if the oil break down over time there will be very small extra load, barely measurable, you would see a loss of oil pressure, but that wouldn't effect how clean the fuel burns.

 

You start off trying to argue then go on to agree with me but with the single reservation that it will not be by much, I didnt claim it had a large effect on emissions, just that it has an effect.

[Kieran00001]

1 hour ago, CGW said:

No denials or otherwise here, you stated that 

 

the fuel system is not affected by the bottom end of the engine, it either burns fuel cleanly or it doesn't, if the oil break down over time there will be very small extra load, barely measurable, you would see a loss of oil pressure, but that wouldn't effect how clean the fuel burns.

And i did not claim that it effects how clean the fuel burns, i claimed that it effects efficiency, try filling your engine with bitumin and see if you can get the same mpg, less mpg = more emissions, this really is very simple stuff.

[CGW]

19 minutes ago, Kieran00001 said:

And i did not claim that it effects how clean the fuel burns, i claimed that it effects efficiency, try filling your engine with bitumin and see if you can get the same mpg, less mpg = more emissions, this really is very simple stuff.

???? do you find yourself arguing with yourself ????

[Kieran00001]

30 minutes ago, CGW said:

???? do you find yourself arguing with yourself ????

 

No, do you often muddle your argument so much that you present a concurring statement to that which you intend to disprove?

[CGW]

1 hour ago, Kieran00001 said:

 

No, do you often muddle your argument so much that you present a concurring statement to that which you intend to disprove?

It was never my intention to disprove your statement, I asked you for facts, meaning give some measurable data, you haven't come up with anything, wrong tire pressures would have more affect on increasing air pollution in a petrol engine than oil quality, which if you recall, is what this thread is about ????