bomber Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said: How did he desert the UK - can you just explain it please? I've just explained how the business he co-founded started offering a new product for EU retail investors. It's only fair that you explain to us how JRM deserted the UK. Unless you can't because you made it up... He is the 2nd biggest stake holder and the business left the UK for dublin,as a brexiteer rather strange when he preaches the UK is the place to be for business,all perfectly legal if unpatriotic but he isnt a spoonies bulldog with a pot to piissss in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nontabury Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 23 minutes ago, bomber said: Was on UK tv about 2-3 months ago at 2000 till 2100,you have stated on here today you watch too many of these political shows maybe you prefered not to watch this one knowing its content...the name of the show i dont recall exactly but something along the lines of "brexit what you need to know" moggers didnt have an answer on camera when asked about his £700k windfall,the same show phoned BJs secetary asking a price for a 1 hour after dinner spech on brexit,£100k was the reply,you need to change the channel as you and the "wife" wont learn much watching coranation street. Proof please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CG1 Blue Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, bomber said: 16 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said: How did he desert the UK - can you just explain it please? I've just explained how the business he co-founded started offering a new product for EU retail investors. It's only fair that you explain to us how JRM deserted the UK. Unless you can't because you made it up... He is the 2nd biggest stake holder and the business left the UK for dublin,as a brexiteer rather strange when he preaches the UK is the place to be for business,all perfectly legal if unpatriotic but he isnt a spoonies bulldog with a pot to piissss in. You're not listening. The business has not left the UK for Dublin. If you're going to make stuff up there is no point in debating with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomber Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said: You're not listening. The business has not left the UK for Dublin. If you're going to make stuff up there is no point in debating with you. Brexit: Jacob Rees-Mogg defends Ireland move by City firm he co-founded ahead of EU withdrawal | The Independent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 From the Somerset Capital website contact us page. https://somersetcapital.com/contact-us/ 612 Wheelers Farms Road. Milford, CT 06461 (877) 282-9922 (203) 301-3253 [email protected] Somehow I don't think that is an address in Eire though I could be wrong. There 8 separate groups within Somerset Capital and some posters are saying that Somerset Capital has moved lock, stock and Barrel to Eire. I think not. However if you really want to know the truth try contacting these people. They are sure too know if anybody does. https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/companies-house https://www.gov.uk/get-information-about-a-company If you Remainers do that and find out, please post the information on TVF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 to make the comedy complete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 37 minutes ago, puipuitom said: In 2016 a overwhelmingly landslide majority of... 51,88 %, ignoring a mare = 48,11 % bunch of idiots, who voted from Remain with many now who regret their vote now. You just can't stop insulting people can you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Dwyer Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 From the Somerset Capital website contact us page. https://somersetcapital.com/contact-us/ 612 Wheelers Farms Road. Milford, CT 06461 (877) 282-9922 (203) 301-3253 [email protected] Somehow I don't think that is an address in Eire though I could be wrong. There 8 separate groups within Somerset Capital and some posters are saying that Somerset Capital has moved lock, stock and Barrel to Eire. I think not. However if you really want to know the truth try contacting these people. They are sure too know if anybody does. https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/companies-house https://www.gov.uk/get-information-about-a-company If you Remainers do that and find out, please post the information on TVF.That address is Connecticut , USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Breaking news May shelves planned vote???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, sammieuk1 said: Breaking news May shelves planned vote???? https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48374841 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 36 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said: That address is Connecticut , USA My bad. Sorry. I didn't follow it through. I looked at the phone numbers and thought that they were UK numbers. ???? Stupid boy, Pike! Not in Eire then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CG1 Blue Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 1 hour ago, bomber said: 1 hour ago, CG1 Blue said: You're not listening. The business has not left the UK for Dublin. If you're going to make stuff up there is no point in debating with you. Brexit: Jacob Rees-Mogg defends Ireland move by City firm he co-founded ahead of EU withdrawal | The Independent 1.02 MB · 1 download I can't open whatever that is you attached. Does it say Somerset Capital has moved it's business to Ireland? I'll save you some time - no it doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malagateddy Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Boris is brilliant news for Scottish separatists. If he doesn't inspire Scotland to cut loose from Westminster then nothing will.Scotland will never win independance..the scottish taxpayers are not stupid.Do you honestly think they would vote for something that will rapidly mean easily 70% of their wages/salary going to the scottish taxman..council tax..vat..etc etcDream on Sent from my SM-G7102 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomber Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 1 minute ago, malagateddy said: Scotland will never win independance..the scottish taxpayers are not stupid. Do you honestly think they would vote for something that will rapidly mean easily 70% of their wages/salary going to the scottish taxman..council tax..vat..etc etc Dream on Sent from my SM-G7102 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app yet you voted for a 15% cut in your income,btw what evidence to the 70%? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomber Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 26 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said: I can't open whatever that is you attached. Does it say Somerset Capital has moved it's business to Ireland? I'll save you some time - no it doesn't. there you go Fund founded by Rees-Mogg sets up post-Brexit vehicle in Dublin _ Financial Times.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuamRudy Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 23 minutes ago, malagateddy said: Scotland will never win independance..the scottish taxpayers are not stupid. Do you honestly think they would vote for something that will rapidly mean easily 70% of their wages/salary going to the scottish taxman..council tax..vat..etc etc Dream on Sent from my SM-G7102 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Teddy, mate, I am disappointed - you forgot to mention Greece without the sun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malagateddy Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 yet you voted for a 15% cut in your income,btw what evidence to the 70%?Those earning over think it is £40,000 annually pay a higher rate of income tax.Add on council tax..20% vat on almost everything..work it out.Sent from my SM-G7102 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malagateddy Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Teddy, mate, I am disappointed - you forgot to mention Greece without the sun! Ok then..Greece without the sun..but FREE methadone..buckfast..however..dole money will be slashed[emoji2][emoji2][emoji2]Sent from my SM-G7102 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomber Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 1 hour ago, malagateddy said: Those earning over think it is £40,000 annually pay a higher rate of income tax. Add on council tax..20% vat on almost everything..work it out. Sent from my SM-G7102 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app so thats the same as now ???? my god you have excelled yourself today,how many ???? have you had? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CG1 Blue Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 2 hours ago, bomber said: there you go Fund founded by Rees-Mogg sets up post-Brexit vehicle in Dublin _ Financial Times.html 339.59 kB · 2 downloads Not sure why you're incapable of just copy/pasting web links like everybody else, but anyway I read your attachment. I gather you didn't read it? Because it says exactly what I told you - that Somerset Capital have introduced a new Irish fund. Do you understand what that means? Do you really think that means Somerset Capital have moved their business to Ireland? If you do I give up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 56 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said: Not sure why you're incapable of just copy/pasting web links like everybody else, but anyway I read your attachment. I gather you didn't read it? Because it says exactly what I told you - that Somerset Capital have introduced a new Irish fund. Do you understand what that means? Do you really think that means Somerset Capital have moved their business to Ireland? If you do I give up. He really doesn't have that much of a clue, does he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomber Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 15 minutes ago, billd766 said: He really doesn't have that much of a clue, does he? builders hands not not keyboard warriors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomber Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 1 hour ago, CG1 Blue said: Not sure why you're incapable of just copy/pasting web links like everybody else, but anyway I read your attachment. I gather you didn't read it? Because it says exactly what I told you - that Somerset Capital have introduced a new Irish fund. Do you understand what that means? Do you really think that means Somerset Capital have moved their business to Ireland? If you do I give up. they along with others have,to serve their EU clients because of brexit or brexit uncertainty which ever way you see it,just because they may not of moved everything lock stock and barrel does not mean they havent done it,shame it was a waste of time as 80% of moggers fellow sovereign MPs wont let brexit happen,haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 15 hours ago, evadgib said: Had Grieve & Co stuck to their manifesto and the wishes of their constituents there wouldn't be an ERG Grieve being in the wrong does not put Corbyn, Johnson, Rees-Mogg and co in the right! Had they all put country ahead of personal ambition we would have left the EU on Match 29th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 14 hours ago, dick dasterdly said: I think the confusion arises as some (including yourself) think the eu/may 'deal' is brexit - whereas many (most?) consider it BRINO? I have asked you, and others, many, many times before why you consider May's deal to be BRINO, what it is you find so bad about it; but as you all always dodged the question by utilising petty sloganising I gave up asking it. But I'll try again. Under May's original deal we would leave the CAP; don't you want that? We would leave the CFP; don't you want that? We would leave the customs union; don't you want that? We would leave the FoM directive and the other three freedoms; don't you want that? We would leave the jurisdiction of the ECJ; don't you want that? Maybe it's the guarantee of the rights of EU nationals currently living in the UK that you don't like? Remember though, this also guarantees the rights of UK nationals currently living in the other 27; don't you want that? Maybe it's the agreement to honour our financial commitments made before the referendum that you don't like? OK, to those who rely on slogans and lies (Boris) this is a major stumbling block. Personally, I believe in honouring agreements and commitments already made. If we don't, how can we make trade agreements with anyone post Brexit? Who would trust us? That leaves the Irish backstop, whatever it turns out to be. Some Brexiteers say the people of Northern Ireland should be forced into leaving the UK and joining the RoI. Surely not you, though; aren't you a believer in democracy? I've been away, and have missed many posts, didn't have time to read them all before that either, but I am assuming you are not so stupid as to believe no deal and joining Mauritania in becoming the second country to trade purely on WTO terms to be a viable option. So, what is your alternative to May's deal? Other Brexiteers, feel free to answer as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CG1 Blue Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 45 minutes ago, bomber said: they along with others have,to serve their EU clients because of brexit or brexit uncertainty which ever way you see it,just because they may not of moved everything lock stock and barrel does not mean they havent done it,shame it was a waste of time as 80% of moggers fellow sovereign MPs wont let brexit happen,haha You still don't get it. They haven't moved anything. Opening a new investment fund to sit alongside your other investment funds doesn't mean moving your business. If Costa Coffee open up a new branch in Lisbon will you say Costa have moved their business to Portugal? If this is how you interpret things I do hope you don't vote... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomber Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Just now, CG1 Blue said: You still don't get it. They haven't moved anything. Opening a new investment fund to sit alongside your other investment funds doesn't mean moving your business. If Costa Coffee open up a new branch in Lisbon will you say Costa have moved their business to Portugal? If this is how you interpret things I do hope you don't vote... as i have stated they havent done anything wrong.they made money out of the move due to the fall in the pound,all above board just benefiting from brexit and the pound collapse,maybe you filled your boots at 52-53bt/pound before the vote but i doubt it as you were told it was project fear,not LAFFING now are you,farage,maoggers,BJ and co would be bothered about you ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said: You still don't get it. They haven't moved anything. Opening a new investment fund to sit alongside your other investment funds doesn't mean moving your business. If Costa Coffee open up a new branch in Lisbon will you say Costa have moved their business to Portugal? But it's not like that. As the article says, they have opened up a new fund in Dublin because their managers worry about being cut off from European investors post Brexit. This move was a direct result of Brexit, especially fears over the sort of hard Brexit Rees-Mogg claims to favour. If Rees-Mogg truly believes his claims about the type of post Brexit UK he wants then he should remove his money from this fund, maybe even this company completely, and invest it here in the UK. But he hasn't. 10 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said: If this is how you interpret things I do hope you don't vote... So people who interpret things differently to you should not be allowed to vote? Very democratic of you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomber Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 17 minutes ago, 7by7 said: I have asked you, and others, many, many times before why you consider May's deal to be BRINO, what it is you find so bad about it; but as you all always dodged the question by utilising petty sloganising I gave up asking it. But I'll try again. Under May's original deal we would leave the CAP; don't you want that? We would leave the CFP; don't you want that? We would leave the customs union; don't you want that? We would leave the FoM directive and the other three freedoms; don't you want that? We would leave the jurisdiction of the ECJ; don't you want that? Maybe it's the guarantee of the rights of EU nationals currently living in the UK that you don't like? Remember though, this also guarantees the rights of UK nationals currently living in the other 27; don't you want that? Maybe it's the agreement to honour our financial commitments made before the referendum that you don't like? OK, to those who rely on slogans and lies (Boris) this is a major stumbling block. Personally, I believe in honouring agreements and commitments already made. If we don't, how can we make trade agreements with anyone post Brexit? Who would trust us? That leaves the Irish backstop, whatever it turns out to be. Some Brexiteers say the people of Northern Ireland should be forced into leaving the UK and joining the RoI. Surely not you, though; aren't you a believer in democracy? I've been away, and have missed many posts, didn't have time to read them all before that either, but I am assuming you are not so stupid as to believe no deal and joining Mauritania in becoming the second country to trade purely on WTO terms to be a viable option. So, what is your alternative to May's deal? Other Brexiteers, feel free to answer as well. but mauritania hasnt signed trade deals with palastine,chile and the faroe islands,we will show them how great britain is,rule britania,bobby bulldog,mad dogs an englishman,god save the queen,no surrender,have it mauritania ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CG1 Blue Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, 7by7 said: But it's not like that. As the article says, they have opened up a new fund in Dublin because their managers worry about being cut off from European investors post Brexit. This move was a direct result of Brexit, especially fears over the sort of hard Brexit Rees-Mogg claims to favour. If Rees-Mogg truly believes his claims about the type of post Brexit UK he wants then he should remove his money from this fund, maybe even this company completely, and invest it here in the UK. But he hasn't. So people who interpret things differently to you should not be allowed to vote? Very democratic of you! Sorry but you're wrong. Investment management companies have a duty to investors to look after their interests. By opening up a Dublin fund in anticipation of Brexit, it will allow investors from the EU to put their money into a fund that is still under MIFID II rules. If the UK leaves the EU without a deal, it's possible EU investors would have to move their money out of Somerset Capital's investment funds, and the clients would suffer financially as a result. So they opened a Dublin fund to protect their clients. And of course so they can still make performance fees out of those clients - I'm not suggesting they do it purely out of kindness! Bomber was suggesting that JRM has moved his business to Dublin. That is simply not true. People with differing points of view should all be able to vote. I've never suggested otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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