4 hours ago, riclag said:

Its being investigated(horowitz,huber and durham)!   Mr. Trump recently has been implicating  strzok as a possible traitor ! Many Gop have criticized Strzok participation! They have suggested the declassification of intel will clarify to what extent his actions or lack of were.

 "Papadopoulos later pleaded guilty to making false statements as part of Mueller’s investigation and served a short two-week prison sentence last year. The false statements were made in January 2017 to FBI agents concerning his contacts with Mifsud. Papadopoulos, in his guilty plea, acknowledged that Mifsud shared the information that Russia could have “dirt” on the Clinton campaign".

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/former-australian-diplomat-alexander-downer-defends-work-pushes-back-on-claims-he-tried-to-trap-papadopoulos

"Alexander Downer’s fake testimony against me helped launch a witch-hunt. My real testimony against him has launched an unprecedented investigation into the deep state and its global actors in Italy-Ukraine-UK-Australia. Downer will forever b remembered as the Clinton errand boy".

George Papadopoulos

You trust the creep Papadopoulos more than a respected Ministry of foreign affairs and UN envoy. Lol.

"Alexander Downer’s fake testimony against me helped launch a witch-hunt. My real testimony against him has launched an unprecedented investigation into the deep state and its global actors in Italy-Ukraine-UK-Australia. Downer will forever b remembered as the Clinton errand boy".

George Papadopoulos

https://twitter.com/GeorgePapa19?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author

 

The origins are being investigated by horowitz,durham,huber.

Mr. Trump has declassified all of the files for Mr. Barr to coordinate with the Special Prosecutor that has been investigating this since January!

The POTUS  was waiting  for the hoax to conclude. Now after waiting he has the green light to declassify! He doesn't have to prove anything! The investigation of the investigators will produce evidence(horowitz,huber and durham.  Liberals seem to think that he must come out with what he knows ,to be believed ! His efforts along with , the above mentioned will prove or shed light to his accusations. 

One might ask why bother to expose all of this especially with the liberals in objection! Mr. Trump claims that there were treasonous acts and that some in the msm,intel,dems were complicit and that this shouldn't happen to another POTUS.

 IMOP the result  of all of this, is  votes, changing public opinion. It's the independent swing voter that is more open minded and sympathetic !

Edited May 26, 20197 yr by riclag

We all know what's coming.  Those who orchestrated this attempted coup are going down.  Trump gave Barr the ammunition he needs to get the job done.  Note that Obama and HRC are silent.  They've lawyered up.

On 5/24/2019 at 7:57 AM, webfact said:

The order also allows Barr to declassify any information he sees fit during his review.

magic words...'' he sees fit...''  but he has nothing to hide

14 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

We all know what's coming.  Those who orchestrated this attempted coup are going down.  Trump gave Barr the ammunition he needs to get the job done.  Note that Obama and HRC are silent.  They've lawyered up.

In an America where the Attorney General is running prosecutions of the President’s political opponents then Obama and HRC are wise to engage lawyers.

 

This abuse of power is a threat to them and to democracy.

14 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

In an America where the Attorney General is running prosecutions of the President’s political opponents then Obama and HRC are wise to engage lawyers.

 

This abuse of power is a threat to them and to democracy.

If they've done nothing wrong, they have nothing to worry about.

22 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

In an America where the Attorney General is running prosecutions of the President’s political opponents then Obama and HRC are wise to engage lawyers.

 

This abuse of power is a threat to them and to democracy.

thats really rich after having failed at a coup.

11 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

If they've done nothing wrong, they have nothing to worry about.

This will backfire on Trump and Barr.

 

Meanwhile you fail l to understand the dangers inherent in an AG doing the bidding of a President to hound his political opponents.

 

Democracy and The Constitution not your strong point.

5 minutes ago, cbtstorm said:

thats really rich after having failed at a coup.

It wasn’t a coup and it hasn’t yet failed.

9 minutes ago, cbtstorm said:

thats really rich after having failed at a coup.

 After being instructed by the senate committee  to look into what happen in 2016,The AG has appointed a Special prosecutor/investigator ! He's making sure his reviews are coordinated with the investigators,horowitz, Durham and the ever so quiet Huber!

Edited May 26, 20197 yr by riclag

8 minutes ago, riclag said:

 After being instructed by the senate committee  to look into what happen in 2016,The AG has appointed a Special prosecutor/investigator ! He's making sure his reviews are coordinated with the investigators,horowitz, Durham and the ever so quiet Huber!

I’m not sure placing Horowitz under the purview of Congressional oversight was a wise move.

 

 

12 minutes ago, cbtstorm said:

thats really rich after having failed at a coup.

I must admit the POTUS is making those accusations despite having accesses to all of the intel. I don't expect him to share what he knows with the media,that might effect the investigations! He must feel confident in his claims ,spying treason and a attempted coup! 

8 hours ago, riclag said:

Its being investigated(horowitz,huber and durham)!   Mr. Trump recently has been implicating  strzok as a possible traitor ! Many Gop have criticized Strzok participation! They have suggested the declassification of intel will clarify to what extent his actions or lack of were.

 "Papadopoulos later pleaded guilty to making false statements as part of Mueller’s investigation and served a short two-week prison sentence last year. The false statements were made in January 2017 to FBI agents concerning his contacts with Mifsud. Papadopoulos, in his guilty plea, acknowledged that Mifsud shared the information that Russia could have “dirt” on the Clinton campaign".

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/former-australian-diplomat-alexander-downer-defends-work-pushes-back-on-claims-he-tried-to-trap-papadopoulos

"Alexander Downer’s fake testimony against me helped launch a witch-hunt. My real testimony against him has launched an unprecedented investigation into the deep state and its global actors in Italy-Ukraine-UK-Australia. Downer will forever b remembered as the Clinton errand boy".

George Papadopoulos

Mr Papadopolous is quite happy to spout lies when they will not result in his incarceration, but is more circumspect when they would. Can you explain:

1/ How did the Oz ambassador (equivalent) to the UK come by this accurate information if not from Papadopolous?

2/ why a respected and quite wealthy Australian ex-politician would want to fabricate lies to help Clinton?

3/ why you would take the word of a self-confessed and convicted liar over Downer's?

 

I'll put it simply for you - the man (Downer) doesn't have a dog in the fight. 

 

Something else you might consider, in Australia we do not tolerate our senior politicians lying to us. Under the Westminster system, those caught deliberately lying to parliament or the public are expected to resign, and they do, otherwise their colleagues will withdraw support and vote in a replacement. The man you support has created an industry of sorting his statements into truth, half truth, distortion of the truth, and outright bloody lies. 

Edited May 26, 20197 yr by Ozman52

57 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

We all know what's coming.  Those who orchestrated this attempted coup are going down.  Trump gave Barr the ammunition he needs to get the job done.  Note that Obama and HRC are silent.  They've lawyered up.

Of course they're quiet, for years already. No involvement so nothing to say.

14 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

This will backfire on Trump and Barr.

 

Meanwhile you fail l to understand the dangers inherent in an AG doing the bidding of a President to hound his political opponents.

 

Democracy and The Constitution not your strong point.

So why don't the Dems impeach both of them? LOL!

9 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

So why don't the Dems impeach both of them? LOL!

because they don;t have a majority in the Senate to convict

thats really rich after having failed at a coup.

There was no coup attempt. Let's deal with reality.

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1 hour ago, Mavideol said:

magic words...'' he sees fit...''  but he has nothing to hide

The AG will review the declassified files  and  coordinate with the investigators with what he determines needs to be investigated! If it results in a predicated offense leading to a crime it won't be Mr. Barr who makes the claim!

Edited May 26, 20197 yr by riclag

32 minutes ago, sirineou said:

because they don;t have a majority in the Senate to convict

Or, put another way, they've got nothing.

1 minute ago, Kelsall said:

Or, put another way, they've got nothing.

No it’s the opposite it’s plane as day Donald is dirty and hasent a clue how to govern he just has the republicans cowering in fear but not for long!!

7 minutes ago, candide said:

You can repeat Papadopoulos claim ad nauseum, it will not make it more credible. Downer had already completed a bright career and had nothing to win with making fake testimonies. It is simply ridiculous.

It takes only 5 minutes to check his career on wikipedia.

 

Tell it to the judge.

2 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

Tell it to the judge.

Wishful thinking.

36 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

Or, put another way, they've got nothing.

All the evidence indicates otherwise.

2 hours ago, Kelsall said:

We all know what's coming.  Those who orchestrated this attempted coup are going down.  Trump gave Barr the ammunition he needs to get the job done.  Note that Obama and HRC are silent.  They've lawyered up.

There was no attempted coup.  There is Trump making wild accusations without evidence in hopes of diverting attention from the proper investigations the House is running.

 

Also, Obama and HRC are silent because they know this will lead to nothing.  They aren't lawyering up, you are making stuff up.

1 hour ago, Kelsall said:

If they've done nothing wrong, they have nothing to worry about.

They have nothing to worry about.  They know this will end the same way Trump's commission to find illegal voters ended, with nothing.

39 minutes ago, heybruce said:

"Liberals seem to think that he must come out with what he knows ,to be believed ! "

 

Right.....It's not like Trump has ever lied! ????

 the POTUS and the AG coordinating together to declassify and the investigators Horowitz , Durham and Huber are tasked in determining possible abuse with fisa ,possible intel abuse in the Trump campaign and investigating the investigators will determine what Mr. Trump has been claiming

Edited May 26, 20197 yr by riclag

its all gonna unravel. who and when did they know the uk dossier was junk.

who paid for it? exactly how much etc.

what and when did the white house know.

did they spy/surveil  other candidates? ? and from when

The HAMR and how extensively it was used by past admin.

what happend in Italy with Mifsud and who employs him.(italian intel heads fired recently)

who are the leakers inside fbi to media. all of that and more.

 

etc etc, its all coming to theater near you. The biggest scandal in American history. no amount of screeching, spinning, projecting, misdirecting or obfuscating is going to help the plotters and their media colluders.

 

 

 

 

 

54 minutes ago, riclag said:

 the POTUS and the AG coordinating together to declassify and the investigators Horowitz , Durham and Huber are tasked in determining possible abuse with fisa ,possible intel abuse in the Trump campaign and investigating the investigators will determine what Mr. Trump has been claiming

Naaa just Donald’s lap dog cherry picking we all know that if Donald can’t do the job he should resign for the good of the country but as we all know he only cares about Donald the rest is bs

1 hour ago, Kelsall said:

Tell it to the judge.

Which judge?

1 hour ago, cbtstorm said:

its all gonna unravel. who and when did they know the uk dossier was junk.

who paid for it? exactly how much etc.

what and when did the white house know.

did they spy/surveil  other candidates? ? and from when

The HAMR and how extensively it was used by past admin.

what happend in Italy with Mifsud and who employs him.(italian intel heads fired recently)

who are the leakers inside fbi to media. all of that and more.

 

etc etc, its all coming to theater near you. The biggest scandal in American history. no amount of screeching, spinning, projecting, misdirecting or obfuscating is going to help the plotters and their media colluders.

You spend way too much time on conspiracy theory websites.

Maybe needs a little bit of reprogramming lol