Pro-Europe vote fragments but limits nationalist gains in EU election

[rott]

25 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

My question was why anyone who truly wants Brexit would not support the Brexit party but rather one of the main parties. No one has been able to answer my question, including yourself. Simply because it doesn’t make sense that someone who supports Brexit would not vote for Brexit but for what is father voted for. It makes as much sense as suggesting there could be remainers in the Brexit party vote just because their dad always voted for Farage. 

 

Obviously things are done differently in your country.

[bristolboy]

2 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Don't you know. look at the voting demographics. Scotland. London, Northern Ireland mostly voted remain the rest mostly voted leave. Just look your tinted glasses off and see the map.

https://www.ipsos.com/ipsos-mori/en-uk/how-britain-voted-2016-eu-referendum

 You are not going to come up with a YouGov poll of 1000plus people that were surveyed????

 

Really? It was claimed that over 60 percent of labour voters voted for leave. Presumably, the conservative percentage would be even higher. Yet somehow 48 percent of the electorate voted to remain? Ridiculous. And the only person invoking polls in this conversation is you. You've got nothing except an apparent unfamiliarity with very basic maths to support your contention.

[Kadilo]

53 minutes ago, malagateddy said:

I do not think they would be bothered one iota.
Next on their list would be campaigning for a GE

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[malagateddy]

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[elliss]

12 hours ago, Kadilo said:

I wonder if he’s been shaken by the result. 

  No way mate , he likes a bit of bover ,  Tommy has new doc Martins boots.

   Somebody is in for a good kicking.555

 

 

 

[Nigel Garvie]

4 hours ago, bristolboy said:

Really? It was claimed that over 60 percent of labour voters voted for leave. Presumably, the conservative percentage would be even higher. Yet somehow 48 percent of the electorate voted to remain? Ridiculous. And the only person invoking polls in this conversation is you. You've got nothing except an apparent unfamiliarity with very basic maths to support your contention.

Yes the argument about who won, Remain or Leave, in this rather unrepresentative sample  based on who can be arsed to vote in EU elections, is cut and dried, when you consider parties with clear pro or anti Brexit platforms only - Remain won by a significant margin. This is except in the heads of Leavers who struggle with Primary school arithmetic. When you consider who,  the embarrassingly  small numbers of voters who voted Labour and Tory MIGHT, have supported on the leave/ remain question, it is a matter of conjecture. It should however be blindingly obvious to anyone with a working brain, that exaggerated claims such as - they were all Leave or Remain voters are ridiculous. Where did the Brexit party get all their supporters, if they were swept up from the Big Parties then that might leave them with just remainers - but there again where did the Libs get all their voters? A conundrum indeed. If they were split anyway even near 50/50 then the Remain vote is still ahead. It is only if the large bulk of them were Leave supporters that this lead is threatened. Tracker polls going back months appear to have been confirmed. 

 

It has to be remembered that a lot of these voters in both parties, may want a soft Brexit. Britain appears determined though, to take part in an international version of the Darwin awards, and may well get first prize if we achieve a hard Brexit economic suicide.

[blazes]

Different people on this thread claim to be descendants of Einstein, but one glance at this nice coloured map will tell us that England & Wales are ready to Leave, and the Scots and Ulstermen can Remain in the EUSSR and thereby commit economic hara-kiri.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48403131

[Jip99]

8 hours ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

No, it doesn’t make sense. I could as well suggest there are Remainers in the Brexit party number just because they love Farage so much. 

 

Now you are being obtuse, several posters have answered your question.

 

If you can’t see it now, you never will.

[bristolboy]

7 hours ago, blazes said:

Different people on this thread claim to be descendants of Einstein, but one glance at this nice coloured map will tell us that England & Wales are ready to Leave, and the Scots and Ulstermen can Remain in the EUSSR and thereby commit economic hara-kiri.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48403131

There's are similar nice colored electoral maps that shows most of America geographically voting for Trump. But not so accurate when rendered in terms of the actual number of votes for each candidate. I haven't been able to find the actual vote numbers broken down by region in the MEP election.

[puipuitom]

On ‎5‎/‎27‎/‎2019 at 7:13 AM, bristolboy said:

If anything establishes the mathematical ineptitude of certain people, it's that they liked your post.  More than 60% of Labour voters voted for leave? Really? Let me see the referendum was 52-48 in favor of leave. Where did all those remain voters come from? The Lib-Dems? The SNP? Or were they bused in from France? 

https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/WP_SITEURL/blogs/peter-kellner/european-election-results-the-death-knell-for-britains-two-party-system  the conenction Labour - Tories - LiB Dem etc UK versus EU elections.

So, quite clear, there is NO IDEA which Brexit the British want: a no deal or a deal ( a Canadian - Norway/Swiss - May deal) or.. a remain.

Do you already know, where your borders, about you want to have control and in between sovereignty, should be ? ( N-S Ireland ? ) 

 

see  https://www.businessinsider.sg/european-election-results-uk-regrets-brexit-votes-remain-2019-5/