UK PM hopeful Gove offers free passport to EU nationals in Brexit UK

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UK PM hopeful Gove offers free passport to EU nationals in Brexit UK

 

Britain's Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Michael Gove is seen outside the Cabinet Office in London, Britain May 14, 2019. REUTERS/Hannah Mckay

 

EDINBURGH (Reuters) - Britain's environment minister Michael Gove, a leading candidate to replace Theresa May as prime minister, will offer to waive a planned naturalisation fee for eligible European nationals as a goodwill gesture, a source close to him said on Monday.

 

"Michael Gove is ready to unite the country. Guaranteeing the rights of EU nationals here in the UK through a declaratory scheme, and making a generous offer of citizenship to those lawfully here at the time of the referendum, is a first step in that direction," said a source close to Gove, confirming a report by Sky News.

 

May said on Friday she was quitting over her failure to deliver Brexit, and a host of potential candidates to replace her in her Conservative Party have emerged.

 

They are likely to seek a more divisive split with the European Union and lead to confrontation with the bloc or a possible parliamentary election.

 

Under Gove's plan, a 1,330-pound ($1,6880) fee would be waived for the around three million EU citizens who may be eligible for naturalisation in 2021 because they resided in the United Kingdom when the referendum was held in June 2016, Sky reported.

 

"This is simply the right thing to do - honouring the promise of VoteLeave that EU nationals studying, working and living in the UK were welcome to stay. Michael Gove led that campaign and now he's ready to deliver Brexit," the source confirmed.

 

(Reporting by Elisabeth O'Leary; Editing by Sonya Hepinstall)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2019-05-28

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[BritManToo]

The whole point of Brexit is to get rid of them, not give them free citizenship.

[chowny77]

What a "Penis"! What's next, free housing, pensions and tax evading?

[brewsterbudgen]

13 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

The whole point of Brexit is to get rid of them, not give them free citizenship.

And I thought Brexiteers were not supposed to be bigoted nationalists!!

[geoffbezoz]

5 minutes ago, chowny77 said:

What a "Penis"! What's next, free housing, pensions and tax evading?

Tax evasion is already an indelible product of being a Tory. No the next thing will be proposing that Scotland is privatised and sold to the Trump organisation.

[dick dasterdly]

So that rules him out of the leadership election?

 

Somehow I doubt it.....

[dick dasterdly]

1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said:

And I thought Brexiteers were not supposed to be bigoted nationalists!!

Get over yourself....

 

There's nothing bigoted nationalist about being unhappy with Gove's statement.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

The whole point of Brexit is to get rid of them, not give them free citizenship.

I thought the whole point of Brexit was about sovereignty and governance?

 

Or are you finally admitting its about getting rid of people?

[Basil B]

5 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

So that rules him out of the leadership election?

 

Somehow I doubt it.....

Still think he has more chance of winning a gurning contest...

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

Get over yourself....

 

There's nothing bigoted nationalist about being unhappy with Gove's statement.

Well there is If the pint of your disagreement is your own bigoted nationalism.

 

[tebee]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

The whole point of Brexit is to get rid of them, not give them free citizenship.

So if the point of brexit as to get rid of them, should Spain use it to get rid of all the British retirees there ? 

[BritManToo]

9 minutes ago, tebee said:

So if the point of brexit as to get rid of them, should Spain use it to get rid of all the British retirees there ? 

Up to them.

But I would guess Spain wanting the money the Brits there provide, as it's almost broke.

That's not the same as saying to give them all Spanish citizenship and a passport though.

 

Poor people undercutting your nationals then sending money to their home countries is a net loss.

Rich people or pensioners spending their money in your country is a net gain.

 

It's a fallacious argument liberals always bring up in these situations, I can't imagine you're too stupid to understand, so it must be deliberate duplicitousness on your part. (a bit like saying voting for the same thing again and again is stupid, then asking for a second referendum as you previously did)

One of my major problems with Remainers, they seem to have no morals or sense of honour, it's do anything and say anything to get your way, which just isn't British.

Edited May 28, 2019 by BritManToo

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, BritManToo said:

Up to them.

But I would guess Spain wanting the money the Brits there provide, as it's almost broke.

That's not the same as saying to give them all Spanish citizenship and a passport though.

And why do you think Gove is proposing to offer EU citizens already in the UK citizenship and passports?

 

Maybe he realises the UK needs something from these people.

[ratcatcher]

1 hour ago, geoffbezoz said:

Tax evasion is already an indelible product of being a Tory. No the next thing will be proposing that Scotland is privatised and sold to the Trump organisation.

Well Trump already owns Turnberry golf course, but as a teetotaler has no interest in distilleries.

[geoffbezoz]

1 minute ago, ratcatcher said:

Well Trump already owns Turnberry golf course, but as a teetotaler has no interest in distilleries.

That's true but as a true total hypocrite himself the fact he does not drink will not stop him accepting the benefits of the profit from those distilleries

[Baerboxer]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

The whole point of Brexit is to get rid of them, not give them free citizenship.

 

Expel them eh? And then the Asians who rely on their ancestors rolling up here in the 70's for their citizenship? And the Afro-Caribbeans whose ancestors answered the call for workers in the 50's and 60's.

 

Does "get rid of them" mean kick them out or do you have other solutions too?

[Baerboxer]

1 hour ago, chowny77 said:

What a "Penis"! What's next, free housing, pensions and tax evading?

 

No - those are reserved perks for politicians!

[potless]

15 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

And why do you think Gove is proposing to offer EU citizens already in the UK citizenship and passports?

 

Maybe he realises the UK needs something from these people.

More likely that at some point in the future up to 3,000,000 votes in some shape or form. And in effect writing off up to 4 billion pounds in fees. No money to update ex-pats pensions though

[evadgib]

Gove voted three times for May's surrender document which to me renders him a busted flush.

[BritManToo]

18 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Expel them eh? And then the Asians who rely on their ancestors rolling up here in the 70's for their citizenship? And the Afro-Caribbeans whose ancestors answered the call for workers in the 50's and 60's.

 

Does "get rid of them" mean kick them out or do you have other solutions too?

My solution would be to allow them to stay until their next exit.

Then they would be required to fulfil the VISA conditions as required by the newly independent UK for citizens of their nationality if they wanted to return.

Edited May 28, 2019 by BritManToo

[welovesundaysatspace]

32 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I thought the whole point of Brexit was about sovereignty and governance?

Or free trade? Or angry old men looking for a scapegoat they can blame for their loser life?

[Chomper Higgot]

18 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Up to them.

But I would guess Spain wanting the money the Brits there provide, as it's almost broke.

That's not the same as saying to give them all Spanish citizenship and a passport though.

 

Poor people undercutting your nationals then sending money to their home countries is a net loss.

Rich people or pensioners spending their money in your country is a net gain.

 

It's a fallacious argument liberals always bring up in these situations, I can't imagine you're too stupid to understand, so it must be deliberate duplicitousness on your part. (a bit like saying voting for the same thing again and again is stupid, then asking for a second referendum as you previously did)

One of my major problems with Remainers, they seem to have no morals or sense of honour, it's do anything and say anything to get your way, which just isn't British.

Given your opening post in this thread I think I'll pass on your talk of morals and honour. 

 

As for 'do anything and say anything to get your way, which just isn't British' 

 

From someone who is now backing a no deal Brexit, a self harm option that was dreamt up precisely for Brexiteers to 'get their own way'.

 

[Baerboxer]

1 minute ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Or free trade? Or angry old men looking for a scapegoat they can blame for their loser life?

 

Take Farage as an example. Blames everything on the EU (which he's been fiddling) and Johnny Foreigner. Get out and get rid and all will be rosy. He spouts high level rhetoric - we'll be wonderful, we must believe in ourselves, we can simply leave on WTO rules - without going into any detail or explaining how and why such successes will be achieved. Once out he'll bugger off to the US or Germany and when the shit-hits-the fan, as it will big time, he'll blame those who are trying to pick the pieces up.

 

And all the Brexit numpties will continue clapping like sea lions at the circus!

[DoctorG]

Misleading headline. He is not offering free passports but to waive the naturalization fee.

[malagateddy]

Tax evasion is already an indelible product of being a Tory. No the next thing will be proposing that Scotland is privatised and sold to the Trump organisation.

As a Glasgow Brit..I think thats a great idea..The Donald would love that I think.
Try and push that idea on will you..Thanks

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[potless]

3 minutes ago, DoctorG said:

Misleading headline. He is not offering free passports but to waive the naturalization fee.

Headline says free passports at the top.

[BritManToo]

Anyways, if all the EU countries are going to be offering free passports, can I have a Spanish one please.

[geoffbezoz]

3 minutes ago, malagateddy said:

 

 

As a Glasgow Brit..I think thats a great idea..The Donald would love that I think.
Try and push that idea on will you..Thanks

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Done. Sent him an email suggesting "Kim jong-un is considering buying Scotland from the UK Tories, you interested in a counter bid ?"????

[stevenl]

7 minutes ago, DoctorG said:

Misleading headline. He is not offering free passports but to waive the naturalization fee.

 

3 minutes ago, potless said:

Headline says free passports at the top.

Yes, that's why the headline is misleading.

[potless]

7 minutes ago, malagateddy said:

As a Glasgow Brit..I think thats a great idea..The Donald would love that I think.
Try and push that idea on will you..Thanks

You may even get a modern version of Hadrians wall. Keep us scummy sassenachs out. ????