Phalang Pracharat still short on seats to form coalition

[webfact]

Phalang Pracharat still short on seats to form coalition

By Kas Chanwanpen 
The Nation 

 

 

Phalang Pracharat had yet to announce the establishment of a coalition as of Tuesday, saying its aim was to set up a stable government. 
 

Despite an earlier announcement on party leader Uttama Savanayana’s Facebook page that the five-party coalition would be announced on Tuesday, Uttama said Tuesday’s press conference was being held to merely to emphasise the parties’ intentions to collaborate. 

 

“We’re not setting up a minority government here,” Uttama said. “Our intentions remain unchanged, in that we want to form a government that is stable and capable of serving the people.” 

 

Five parties – Action Coalition for Thailand, Chat Pattana, Thai Local Power, People's Reform and Thai Forest Conservation – were at the press conference on Tuesday. If these parties were to combine their seats with those of Phalang Pracharat, there would be less than 200 seats, still far from the 251 needed to legitimise a coalition. 

 

Democrat and Bhumjaithai parties, which hold 103 seats together, were absent from the press conference. The Democrats have yet to decide on whether it will join the coalition, while Bhumjaithai is said to have made a pact with the Democrats to go in the same direction.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/politics/30370517

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2019-06-04

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[Reigntax]

The Demos and Bhums still trying to work out how to support Prayuth with appear to do so realising if they announce support they will be wiped out next time.

 

The eventual excuse will be interesting as positions in The trough will always beat ethics

[Creasy]

Farcical Thailand should be their tourism slogan

[Denim]

Thailand, Land of wiles.

[mfd101]

A whole room full of middle-aged men in dark suits.

 

An interesting way of representing the diversity and complexity of Thai peoples and their society. Good to see democracy at work. At last.

[GarryP]

7 minutes ago, Reigntax said:

The Demos and Bhums still trying to work out how to support Prayuth with appear to do so realising if they announce support they will be wiped out next time.

 

The eventual excuse will be interesting as positions in The trough will always beat ethics

Apparently Anutin is getting a good whipping on online forums and facebook by the very people that voted for his party, with threats of never voting for his party again if they join hands with Palang Prachrat, as the original position was that they could not support the junta or its lackeys. 

 

They have even gone so far as to threaten burning Buriram United soccer shirts and stop supporting the team, so it must be getting serious. ????

[madmitch]

So what happens if Prayuth is elected PM, the Dems and/or Bumjaithai decide not to join a PP coalition leaving the anti-junta bloc with the most MPs?

 

Serious question as I have no idea how this scenario would work.

[Chazar]

Surely  they can find some other people to disqualify somewhere??

[rkidlad]

Me thinks some of these undecided politicians need attitude adjustment. They need to understand who the 'good people' are. 

Edited June 4, 2019 by rkidlad

[Chazar]

46 minutes ago, webfact said:

set up a stable government

Yep, why not  call Shergar he's  better  than all of you and most likely  more  brains!

[DLock]

8 minutes ago, madmitch said:

So what happens if Prayuth is elected PM, the Dems and/or Bumjaithai decide not to join a PP coalition leaving the anti-junta bloc with the most MPs?

 

Serious question as I have no idea how this scenario would work.

I was wondering the same thing.

 

What happens if no coalition reaches the required seats?

 

Does Prayut stay in power? Do they get a do-over election? Do they keep stretching the deadline and keep negotiating to get the seats?

[bannork]

Come on Dems and Bhumjaithai. Join up with PT, FF, Seri Ruam Thai.

Chart Thai Pattaya will come running too. Show you can forget Thaksin for now. Think of the country. You can divide up the portfolios between you.

Let the senators vote for Prayuth and show the country how crazy that is when he can't form a government.

 

 

 

 

[mfd101]

If he uses his override power under section ? , he can do whatever he likes. The parliament is just an irritating sideshow as far as the government is concerned - windowdressing for foreigners.

 

Ministers are continuing to 'do their jobs' (including overseas trips) as though no election had taken place. There is no concept here - apparently - of a 'caretaker' government doing minimalist duties while awaiting finalization of the 'new' government.

[GarryP]

According to breaking news on Twitter 27 Democrats have said they will join hands with Phalang Pracharat. This is even before the Dems have their party vote on whether or not to join the coalition later today.

[Reigntax]

7 minutes ago, GarryP said:

According to breaking news on Twitter 27 Democrats have said they will join hands with Phalang Pracharat. This is even before the Dems have their party vote on whether or not to join the coalition later today.

A position they have taken throughout history disguised by smoke and mirrows

[Enoon]

1 hour ago, madmitch said:

So what happens if Prayuth is elected PM, the Dems and/or Bumjaithai decide not to join a PP coalition leaving the anti-junta bloc with the most MPs?

 

Serious question as I have no idea how this scenario would work.

 

Anti-junta equals, substantially, anti-senate.

 

Anyone who is not with them is against them (and their "noble" principles).

 

So (forgive me for repeating myself) :

 

"A puppet government is acceptable.

 

If it becomes impossible to form one then the regime carries on in its current form, with rule by decree.

 

Because the civilian, would be members of government, will have proven themselves:

 

"lacking in the devotion and commitment to unification, reconciliation and progress, and too selfish to sacrifice personal ambition for the greater good of the kingdom and its people".

 

Or something similar."

 

There is only one "correct" outcome as far as the regime is concerned.

 

There is only one way to change the nature of the regime, politics......and the future of Thailand.

 

 

Edited June 4, 2019 by Enoon

[pornprong]

If the intent was to indefinitely prolong military rule over Thailand, which has been in place since a coup in May 2014, then the five-time delayed March 2019 election was a success. It was a masterclass in how to steal an election at every level: by drafting a new constitution, disbanding parties, gerrymandering, censoring the opposition, handpicking a Senate, and creating post-facto electoral rules to allocate seats.

 

https://thediplomat.com/2019/05/thailands-stolen-election/

[Eric Loh]

25 minutes ago, GarryP said:

According to breaking news on Twitter 27 Democrats have said they will join hands with Phalang Pracharat. This is even before the Dems have their party vote on whether or not to join the coalition later today.

Party split looks inevitable. Party is torn apart by Ahbisit’s incompetence and weakness to stop the influence of Suthep’s faction and the rot has developed. Jurin do not have the incumbency to demand unity. I hope the 28 young MPs will break and join up with the FFP. 

[bannork]

Other breaking news- the 7 party coalition of PT, FF, etc will propose Thanathorn as PM tomorrow. Also FF will ask the Constitutional court to suspend 30 MPs, mostly PPRP for share holding violations.

[Artisi]

1 hour ago, madmitch said:

So what happens if Prayuth is elected PM, the Dems and/or Bumjaithai decide not to join a PP coalition leaving the anti-junta bloc with the most MPs?

 

Serious question as I have no idea how this scenario would work.

it will ham-string Prayuth and the junta and probably result in a major dummy-spit and all toys being ejected from the pram - and it can't happen soon enough - leaving the two major players to argue between themselves with the others keeping the bastards honest (as honest as is conceivable in LOS)    

[Ozman52]

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

Party split looks inevitable. Party is torn apart by Ahbisit’s incompetence and weakness to stop the influence of Suthep’s faction and the rot has developed. Jurin do not have the incumbency to demand unity. I hope the 28 young MPs will break and join up with the FFP. 

I believe Thais have a rather nasty name and very low opinion of MPs who change parties after the election. FYI Abhisit has resigned as party leader, and Suthep (who?) has left to form his own party (ACT with 5 seats) so doubt he has a faction. Who told you the Democrat MPs who have not pledged support for PPRP are "young"?

[Artisi]

1 hour ago, Enoon said:

 

Anti-junta equals, substantially, anti-senate.

 

Anyone who is not with them is against them (and their "noble" principles).

 

So (forgive me for repeating myself) :

 

"A puppet government is acceptable.

 

If it becomes impossible to form one then the regime carries on in its current form, with rule by decree.

 

Because the civilian, would be members of government, will have proven themselves:

 

"lacking in the devotion and commitment to unification, reconciliation and progress, and too selfish to sacrifice personal ambition for the greater good of the kingdom and its people".

 

Or something similar."

 

There is only one "correct" outcome as far as the regime is concerned.

 

There is only one way to change the nature of the regime, politics......and the future of Thailand.

 

 

May well be time for "someone" to step-in with the simple statement "enough is enough". 

[Eric Loh]

51 minutes ago, Ozman52 said:

I believe Thais have a rather nasty name and very low opinion of MPs who change parties after the election. FYI Abhisit has resigned as party leader, and Suthep (who?) has left to form his own party (ACT with 5 seats) so doubt he has a faction. Who told you the Democrat MPs who have not pledged support for PPRP are "young"?

They are called pro democracy and Thais have high regards for them. Nothing nasty about them going against a dic regime. All should be proud; maybe not you but who cares. 

[bannork]

The Democrats have voted overwhelmingly to join the coalition, only 16 were against.

 

[GarryP]

5 minutes ago, bannork said:

The Democrats have voted overwhelmingly to join the coalition, only 16 were against.

 

I hope they are totally wiped out come the next elections. Showing their true colors, green not blue.

[Ozman52]

15 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Party split looks inevitable. Party is torn apart by Ahbisit’s incompetence and weakness to stop the influence of Suthep’s faction and the rot has developed. Jurin do not have the incumbency to demand unity. I hope the 28 young MPs will break and join up with the FFP. 

Wishful thinking and bias rarely get it right.

[baboon]

9 minutes ago, Bipolar said:

New Name for the Democrats.....LIARS!   They ran on a party platform of making sure no return of power of the military regime.....those Democart MPs  won was because people voted for them based on that and now they have lied and are supporting the military regime. You can never never believe one word ever that any Democrat says. They are simply LIARS! Period. You can never trust a Democrat ever again. People should boo or spit on them whenever they say or talk anything. I voted for them and it was a stupid mistake. Simple plain losers who messed up the country so many times with mobs etc and it was they in the first place with the cockroach from Samui and the yellow pariahs that caused the army to come into power. I hate the red shirts and the thaksin party but I believe that everything should have been resolved in parliament or thru elections not mob rule which was started in Thailand by the Democrats actually and their yellow pariah cronies.

Sir, there was never really any question that they would side with the reactionaries.

"Simple plain losers who messed up the country so many times with mobs etc"

Then why in God's name did you put your faith in them?

[baboon]

17 hours ago, DLock said:

I was wondering the same thing.

 

What happens if no coalition reaches the required seats?

 

Does Prayut stay in power? Do they get a do-over election? Do they keep stretching the deadline and keep negotiating to get the seats?

The junta either continue as the junta or as Palang Pracharat. Simple as that. Any other questions are irrelevant.

[Ulic]

As is the case in Thailand, money talks, bulls--t walks. Whoever offers the most wins.