Effusive Trump promises Britain a "phenomenal" post-Brexit trade deal

[Sujo]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

But how long will it take for the sanity to arrive?

Not long ago people thought it can't get worse than George W.

What will come after Trump?

 

I was one of those that thought nothing could be worse than GWB. But then he was voted in again. Surely the people couldnt be so dumb ever again. 

 

Oh how I was so wrong.

[Emdog]

Anyone who still believes Trump's promises is a bloody fool. No ifs ands or buts.

[Basil B]

"Effusive Trump promises Britain a "phenomenal" post-Brexit trade deal"

 

Wonder how may are taken in by these words of a compulsive liar???

 

Of course it is in his and America's interest Uk leaving Europe, A no deal Brexit and he will have us over a barrel, he is looking desperately for a re-election ticket...

[alanrchase]

5 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Trump also stated that the NHS must be included in any trade deal.

 

Precisely as predicted all along by ’project fear’.

Don't worry, according to Piers Morgan's twitter he has already done a U-turn on the NHS. 

[rott]

I wonder what specifically all these additional things are that the USA will be supplying to the UK and vice versa.

[tomacht8]

Before any business negotiation, it is good to prepare for your negotiating partners.
As a basic reading, I recommend this phenomenal book:
 

[malagateddy]

England has nowhere else to go. They are the pariahs of Europe. They would be wise to take any deal with the USA, because as it stands we are their best friends and maybe their only friends.

Do you mean the UK not England?

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[malagateddy]

By England, I presume you are referring to the Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
 
It’s a curious place where, despite what Americans wish to believe, very many people do not regard the United States, let alone this President, a true friend.

And even more UK citizens DO regard the USA as a TRUE friend!!!

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[evadgib]

1 hour ago, alanrchase said:

Don't worry, according to Piers Morgan's twitter he has already done a U-turn on the NHS. 

It was obvious Trump had flummoxed the answer but the usual culprits have used it as a stick anyway.

Edited June 5, 2019 by evadgib

[Baerboxer]

7 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Trump also stated that the NHS must be included in any trade deal.

 

Precisely as predicted all along by ’project fear’.

 

Indeed. And has previously referenced many times by Farage.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, evadgib said:

It was obvious that he had flummoxed the answer but the usual culprits have used it as a stick to beat him with.

Prior to Trump arriving in the UK, the US Ambassador stated that he expected the US to require the NHS to be included an trade deal with the US. 

Trump arrives and states categorically that the NHS must be included in any trade deal with the US.

 

Away with you and your ready  excuses to coverup facts you don't like. 

[metisdead]

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[Becker]

47 minutes ago, malagateddy said:

Do you mean the UK not England?

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Well, pretty soon England will be on its own when the Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish have had enough. Hate to break it to you but Trump will make sure you get a rotten deal. Heck, even an imbecile like him will be able to get a deal that's immensely favorable to the US since he's holding ALL the cards.

 

PS. And don't be surprised if the Spanish kick all of you out of Malaga and all the other places that seem to be teeming with flag waving expats.

Edited June 5, 2019 by Becker

[bristolboy]

5 hours ago, jesimps said:

Tell that to the remainers holding us up and causing the pound to bomb, not the 17.4 million Brits who chose to exit.

Sure. What's keeping the pound down is investors scared that Brexit might not happen.

[JimmyTheMook]

6 hours ago, dcutman said:

At least Brits have a chance with the current president.

 

 

Couldn't Cameron have reached over with a proper placed back hand?

 

 

 

 

[dick dasterdly]

8 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Trump also stated that the NHS must be included in any trade deal.

 

Precisely as predicted all along by ’project fear’.

IMO, many politicians have been looking to privatise the NHS for a long time now ..... ☹️

 

So far, they've managed to move in a horde of administrators/appalling private contractor deals etc., but not privatisation - as they know this would go down like a lead weight with the majority of the electorate.

 

I don't see things changing on this front in the near future.

[evadgib]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Prior to Trump arriving in the UK, the US Ambassador stated that he expected the US to require the NHS to be included an trade deal with the US. 

Trump arrives and states categorically that the NHS must be included in any trade deal with the US.

 

Away with you and your ready  excuses to coverup facts you don't like. 

Trump didn't state it 'categorically' and since when has Andrew Marr or the BBC been part of any negotiations despite their own biased agenda?

 

Methinks it's time for another Guffaw... 

Edited June 5, 2019 by evadgib

[Chomper Higgot]

5 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

IMO, many politicians have been looking to privatise the NHS for a long time now ..... ☹️

 

So far, they've managed to move in a horde of administrators/appalling private contractor deals etc., but not privatisation - as they know this would go down like a lead weight with the majority of the electorate.

 

I don't see things changing on this front in the near future.

Apart from the fact that Trump has just categorically told you that the NHS shall be part of any trade deal between the UK and the US.

 

Post Brexit UK desperate for a trade deal with the US and before the nation gets to the negotiating table the US tells the UK to bring along the NHS.

 

As predicted by 'project fear'.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, evadgib said:

Trump didn't state it 'categorically' and since when have Andrew Marr or the BBC been part of any negotiations despite their own biased agenda?

 

Methinks it's time for another Guffaw... 

For the second time today you respond to what Trump says by claiming he didn't say it. 

 

Hey but don't let a recorded facts get in the way of your denial.

 

 

Refer 2minutes 35 seconds through 2 minutes 50 seconds in the attached.

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io_0-hqiRHs

 

[thaiguzzi]

9 hours ago, webfact said:

"As the UK makes preparations to exit the European Union, the United States is committed to a phenomenal trade deal between the US and the UK. There is tremendous potential in that trade deal - I say probably two and even three times of what we are doing right now."

Phenomenal.

Tremendous.

How about "bigly"?

Bigly Britain anyone?

[Nigel Garvie]

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Apart from the fact that Trump has just categorically told you that the NHS shall be part of any trade deal between the UK and the US.

 

Post Brexit UK desperate for a trade deal with the US and before the nation gets to the negotiating table the US tells the UK to bring along the NHS.

 

As predicted by 'project fear'.

 

 

Many people in the UK have no idea just HOW bad the US healthcare system actually is. US is twice as expensive as anywhere in the developed world, even including Switzerland. I was there some time ago and was told that if you were in an accident they would check your insurance before medics did anything to help you. The whole thing is a vast financial racket enriching big pharma, doctors, hospitals, and most of all insurance companies. No insurance for pre existing conditions - this is dark age stuff. 

 

So finally the greatest achievement of fools who believe what they read on a bus (Despite Farage already saying both before and after that he would happily make the NHS insurance based) could  be to make post Brexit healthcare too expensive for all those traditional working class heroes (So I've been told on this forum) who voted to leave. Irony is dead (As they said when war criminal Kissenger was given the Nobel Peace Prize). 

 

Chances of Brexiteers waking up and realizing the nightmare new world they are creating are sadly limited. I can hardly wait for the "It's all the EU's fault denials trotting out.

[evadgib]

10 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

For the second time today you respond to what Trump says by claiming he didn't say it. 

 

Hey but don't let a recorded facts get in the way of your denial.

 

 

Refer 2minutes 35 seconds through 2 minutes 50 seconds in the attached.

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io_0-hqiRHs

 

He's just produced a moment of comic genius by donning a Churchill hat courtesy of Piers Morgan in the war rooms & looking like Freddy "Parrot face" Davis & NO that isn't an ex Brexit secretary ????

 

 

[evadgib]

10 minutes ago, Nigel Garvie said:

Many people in the UK have no idea just HOW bad the US healthcare system actually is. US is twice as expensive as anywhere in the developed world, even including Switzerland. I was there some time ago and was told that if you were in an accident they would check your insurance before medics did anything to help you. The whole thing is a vast financial racket enriching big pharma, doctors, hospitals, and most of all insurance companies. No insurance for pre existing conditions - this is dark age stuff. 

 

So finally the greatest achievement of fools who believe what they read on a bus (Despite Farage already saying both before and after that he would happily make the NHS insurance based) could  be to make post Brexit healthcare too expensive for all those traditional working class heroes (So I've been told on this forum) who voted to leave. Irony is dead (As they said when war criminal Kissenger was given the Nobel Peace Prize). 

 

Chances of Brexiteers waking up and realizing the nightmare new world they are creating are sadly limited. I can hardly wait for the "It's all the EU's fault denials trotting out.

Many British expats on this forum have no access to the NHS anyway so what have they to lose?

 

(I do not believe the 'doom and gloom' you lot are peddling!)

Edited June 5, 2019 by evadgib

[overherebc]

7 hours ago, Thailand said:

News of this magnitude will see sterling over 70 to the baht later this week!

And those negotiators in the EU will be shaking in their boots and do a good deal with the UK for Brexit just to show Trump.

Edit.

Just checked. It leaped from 38.5 to 39.5 ( mid rate )

Edited June 5, 2019 by overherebc

[evadgib]

Farage met Trump yesterday

[dick dasterdly]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Apart from the fact that Trump has just categorically told you that the NHS shall be part of any trade deal between the UK and the US.

 

Post Brexit UK desperate for a trade deal with the US and before the nation gets to the negotiating table the US tells the UK to bring along the NHS.

 

As predicted by 'project fear'.

 

 

You seriously believe that even our uk politicians would sell off the NHS to the USA to privatise ????

 

Talk about suicide when it came to the next GE!

 

Yes, project fear at it's best.....

[Nigel Garvie]

1 hour ago, evadgib said:

Many British expats on this forum have no access to the NHS anyway so what have they to lose?

 

(I do not believe the 'doom and gloom' you lot are peddling!)

Good point, if you are an expat, don't use the NHS, and want Brexit, then why should you care if we sell it to the US. The people who will suffer in the UK will just be the poor. OK many of them voted leave, but why care about them once you have their votes. Farage himself said the claim that money would go to the NHS was false the morning after the result. So some people got fooled - tough.

[Nigel Garvie]

46 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

You seriously believe that even our uk politicians would sell off the NHS to the USA to privatise ????

 

Talk about suicide when it came to the next GE!

 

Yes, project fear at it's best.....

Well obviously they wouldn't do it openly, they are not that stupid, it would be death by a 1000 cuts. Indeed the process is already well underway. NO it would be project fear if remainers said it, but your own side said it - openly, blatantly, undeniably, clearly, out in the open for all to see. Farage, Trump, the US ambassador, all supported by an embarrassed silence of senior Tory Brexiteer politicians who did nothing to deny it. That's not fear, that's reality, work out the difference - take your time.

[welovesundaysatspace]

Is stopped reading after “Trump promises”

[thaiguzzi]

2 hours ago, Nigel Garvie said:

Many people in the UK have no idea just HOW bad the US healthcare system actually is. US is twice as expensive as anywhere in the developed world, even including Switzerland. I was there some time ago and was told that if you were in an accident they would check your insurance before medics did anything to help you. The whole thing is a vast financial racket enriching big pharma, doctors, hospitals, and most of all insurance companies. No insurance for pre existing conditions - this is dark age stuff. 

Yep, very sad for a first world culture and people.

2 hours ago, Nigel Garvie said:

The whole thing is a vast financial racket enriching big pharma,

Well that is America and corporate greed.

Try looking at the war industry,

the private prison system,

yada nada da bing.

The whole thing is old money and designed to keep the old money where it is.

Elites?

Hah!

Thailand has nothing on these guys.

Saw a fascinating documentary about Shaun Attwood on YouTube.

Check that guy out and what he has to say about the US penal system and US culture.