Hua Hin: Cancer sufferer still fighting for justice - so that others won't be conned

[rooster59]

Hua Hin: Cancer sufferer still fighting for justice - so that others won't be conned

 

 

A Dutch man in a long running saga over a series of medical bills from a hospital in Hua Hin in 2015 - 2016 is still pursuing the case so that other foreigners won't get conned. 

 

The health authorities already found in favor of Edwin Buse, now 50, after a hospital in Hua Hin charged him an extra 300 baht (or 15% more) per visit for treatment for colon cancer. 

 

The authorities ordered the hospital to return 12,746 baht to Mr Buse, a former train engineer who now tends goats in Klong Wan district of Prachuap Khiri Khan.

 

He said in January that this was still not enough after he made 14 visits and got other treatment. 

 

Mr Buse has refused to accept the payout. Yesterday he went to meet with Pol Lt-Col Chaiwiwat Janthorn of the Hua Hin police to make a formal complaint. 

 

Mr Buse said that he had been treated for an extra 50 baht a time though he didn't specify what hospital. That was fine.

 

He said that it was not about the money - that can be paid later - it was about the principle of a hospital overcharging a foreigner and doing what they please despite health department regulations. 

 

He intends to keep fighting so that others are not forced to pay irregular charges in this manner.

 

Source: Talk News Online

 

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[mercman24]

i got charged a 100 baht, for the nurse going down the escalator with me to the pharmacy. (well they done nothing else)

[NCC1701A]

keep up the good work. somebody who is standing up, not just whining on their keyboard. 

[aguy30]

Queen Sirakit Naval Hospital in Sattahip near Utapao charges foreigners 50% extra and will not allow them to buy any discount promo package.

[Andrew65]

Nothing will change.

 

Just accept the refund offered.

 

TIT

[aguy30]

Pattaya City Hospital has 2 prices. One for Thai and and a much higher one for foreigners.

[helloagain]

They are scum here for duel pricing 

[4MyEgo]

It's not just in the hospitals, it's everywhere, you need to have your wits about you because they will charge extra where they can.

 

The ones that do get away for it, fail to get return business from me.

[commie]

Promote medical tourism, my arse.

[hobz]

I have wp and social security and got screwed by public hospital in a different way.

I have a small amount of private insurance (coverage around 50000thb).

 

I had an accident and broke my arm.

 

Social security covered everything except a metal plate and private room .. 

Now here is the fun part.. 

The surgery was covered by social security. But they maxed my private insurance with it. And then they asked for cash for the metal plate.. after waiting around 12 hours to get this sorted when trying to "check out" from the hospital I just gave up..

And then the next day when I was home I tried to call the insurance company saying the hospital screwed them and me.. Insurance company kept giving me the run-around etc so I gave up..

 

Lesson learned:  don't sign anything u don't understand.. dont tell them u have private insurance until the very very end and then make sure that they put everything on social security first .. 

[BritManToo]

1 minute ago, hobz said:

had an accident and broke my arm.

Social security covered everything except a metal plate and private room .. 

Could have gone the normal route of plaster and no plate. Just as effective and 1/10 the price.

Surgery and metal plate is a scam, most breaks don't need it, and the plate may cause problems later.

[BritManToo]

3 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

keep up the good work. somebody who is standing up, not just whining on their keyboard. 

My misses just negotiated for an old Dutch guy in Chiang Mai with a broken hip.

Suan Dok aka Maharaj wanted a 30k cash deposit before he entered and estimated the total bill at around 300k (metal plates).

Nakorn Ping agreed to 30k total, paid direct by his Thai minimum m/c insurance (plaster cast).

[Medway]

I had cataract surgery at Bkk hospital Pattaya. On my follow ups with the surgeon I was charged 800 baht immediately I walked in the office....daylight robbery.

[Fairynuff]

Ripping foreigners off is bad enough but ripping off sick people is beyond disgusting 

Edit: For the sake of the “it’s just 100 baht” brigade. The size of the rip off is irrelevant to the fact it’s a rip off.

Edited July 20, 2019 by Fairynuff

[Nip]

56 minutes ago, helloagain said:

They are scum here for duel pricing 

Was that an intended spelling pun or accidental?

[easydoor]

Knowing the Dutchmen (Hollanders) very well they always complain when they have to pay something. Being 'overcharged', as he calls, for 12.700THB in 2 years, at 100THB per treatment, is a real very big attack on his financial capacities. He better could stay in Holland where 'everything' is for free. Poor man what even has to rise goats to come to an income for his living. Maby he also have to start a crowfunding, very popular this days.

[Greenhill]

4 hours ago, mercman24 said:

i got charged a 100 baht, for the nurse going down the escalator with me to the pharmacy. (well they done nothing else)

I would suggest that she was on a far more important mission and that was to make sure you got to the cashier, without disappearing!    You wouldn't get anything from the pharmacy without having paid the bill first!!

[dotpoom]

5 hours ago, rooster59 said:

charged him an extra 300 baht (or 15% more) per visit for treatment for colon cancer. 

That does not make sense on it's own...."Extra"....above what. Is it meant to be 15% more than a Thai person...if so...why not say that?

[justin case]

can I have the contacts of his thai lawyer? as mine is asking 130.000 baht for anything

[wgdanson]

1 hour ago, helloagain said:

They are scum here for duel pricing 

Will they be fighting over it?   LOL

[DxxD]

1 hour ago, easydoor said:

Knowing the Dutchmen (Hollanders) very well they always complain when they have to pay something. Being 'overcharged', as he calls, for 12.700THB in 2 years, at 100THB per treatment, is a real very big attack on his financial capacities. He better could stay in Holland where 'everything' is for free. Poor man what even has to rise goats to come to an income for his living. Maby he also have to start a crowfunding, very popular this days.

Yeahh you really know the dutch people.. Health insurance is about 3000 - 3800 baht each month for the rest of our lives + we have to pay our own risk insurance money first wich is between 13000 - 31000 baht depending on how much you pay each month, EVERY YEAR. So yeahh the first 55000 baht (at least) is on your own account in the netherlands. And even then not everything is 100% paid for you.. Only thing when it's almost 'free' is when you get money from the government for health insurance if your own income is not that good (between € 0 and € 29.500).

 

This guy is just doing it because of the discrimination (reading he was a train engineer, he probaly has a decent pension), wich is illegal by Thai law btw.. And must not be the first time this kind of 'scams' have happened to him.. At some point (even for me) it's getting more and more annoying.

 

Ohh yeahh, if we live for more then 6 months outside of the Netherlands, the health insurance company will stop helping you. So big chance he doesn't have health insurance anymore if he lives full time in Thailand.

 

I hope that whenever he doesn't have the money he will start a gofundme page just like al cheap charlies from england do.

Edited July 20, 2019 by DxxD

[WhyamIhere]

฿300 extra per visit doesn't seem like a big deal compared to what I'm experiencing with a MAJOR private hospital in Bangkok.  I need six eye injections of a VEGF drug called Avastin and the first question the hospital asked is: "Is the patient Thai or foreign?" My wife was quoted ฿16,000 per injection for Thais...she then asked what a foreigner would have to pay?  She was told ฿23,000.

[JimHuaHin]

I have been going to Hua Hin Hospital for 6 years, and I have no complaints.

 

I generally use the 'express' service, and I pay extra for the service, as do ALL the Thai patients.

 

At times I have used the after hours OPD specialist service, and pay extra for the service, as do ALL Thai patients, including my Thai partner who is a nurse in another governent hospital.

 

After Christmas last year I was admitted as a patient in a private room due to a severe UTI infection requiring IV antiobiotics for 4 days - I paid the same fees as a Thai patient would have.

 

Most of the medical staff at Hua Hin Hospital are excellent - many doctors have thier own private after hours clinics, and several also work part-time in one of the two Hua Hin private hospitals.

 

Hua Hin Hospital provides a great service to the community; the Hospital is also several million Baht in debt, as are many many other Thai government hospitals.

 

Personally, I do not mind paying a few hundred Baht extra per visit to Hua Hin Hospital, as it helps the Hospital continue is great work in our community.

 

On the other hand, I do not accept being ripped off by the local motor cycle taxi, taxi and tuk tuk marfia.

[bluesofa]

1 hour ago, Nip said:

2 hours ago, helloagain said:

They are scum here for duel pricing 

Was that an intended spelling pun or accidental?

Perhaps it's just dawning on him now.

[Plus Esse Quam Simultatur]

5 hours ago, aguy30 said:

Queen Sirakit Naval Hospital in Sattahip near Utapao charges foreigners 50% extra and will not allow them to buy any discount promo package.

At that hospital I got a hernia operation some years ago and paid 12.074 Baht total incl room food etc. 

3 months ago I went there again for same operation opposite side and they quoted me 100.000 Bath. 

Quite a different price for exactly same operation. 

Went to a local government hospital in Pattaya and was here quoted 50.000 Bath. They only wanted 30.000 paid in advance for the doctor. 

[metisdead]

Off topic posts, troll posts and the replies have been removed. 

[Thaifriends]

5 hours ago, mercman24 said:

i got charged a 100 baht, for the nurse going down the escalator with me to the pharmacy. (well they done nothing else)

Yes same at St Louis also. 

[Thaifriends]

Buse, good work. I wish you well. Its a matter of principal.

[Too young to be old]

2 hours ago, helloagain said:

They are scum here for duel pricing 

And its illegal, by their own constitution.

[Jonnapat]

5 hours ago, aguy30 said:

Queen Sirakit Naval Hospital in Sattahip near Utapao charges foreigners 50% extra and will not allow them to buy any discount promo package.

From April 2018 the government allowed public hospitals up to 50% 'Foreigner Surcharge'. This hospital has obviously chosen the maximum. 

At Siriraj hospital in Bangkok where I regularly need to attend the surchsrge is 25%.