brokenbone Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 is there any material that lend itself to be stuck underneath the nail to force it to grow straight, without constantly being squeezed out ? what can i do to keep whatever i shove in there to stay there ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) I solved this problem with both of my big toes years ago. I think I used pieces of cotton balls rolled up but I'm not sure about that. This article mentions waxed dental floss. You need to change the material often anyway. This process took me months to be sure it was really going to work. Make sure you cut all toenails with a STRAIGHT edged cutter. Soaking your feet in warm water with Epsom salt is helpful but good luck finding Epsom salt in Thailand. Pharmacies won't have it but some Chinese traditional medicine shops will. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/ingrown-toenails/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20355908 Edited August 9, 2019 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokenbone Posted August 9, 2019 Author Share Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Jingthing said: I solved this problem with both of my big toes years. I think I used pieces of cotton balls rolled up but I'm not sure about that. This article mentions waxed dental floss. You need to change the material often anyway. This process took me months to be sure it was really going to work. Make sure you cut all toenails with a STRAIGHT edged cutter. Soaking your feet in warm water with Epsom salt is helpful but good luck finding Epsom salt in Thailand. Pharmacies won't have it but some Chinese traditional medicine shops will. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/ingrown-toenails/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20355908 how did you make the material stay put under the nail ? i have unfortunately precious little patience with this shit. Edited August 9, 2019 by brokenbone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issannative Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 My mom had this problem was awful in the end she had both big toenails removed roots and all sais she wished she had done it years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, brokenbone said: how did you make the material stay put under the nail ? i have unfortunately precious little patience with this shit. Oh no. You need to be patient or you're going to be a patient. I recall I just pushed them in with a tool on my clippers. Depending on your case, it might not work. Another thing I do after I fixed this is never cut the nails very short. I think the general "surgical" treatment" here is to remove the entire nail. I don't know if they treat that bare skin to prevent new nails from growing back or not. Foot specialists almost don't exist here. I think the self treatment method is worth a try but I'm biased because it worked for me. BTW, I've mentioned this before and I will again. The REASON I developed that awful problem in the first place is because I was getting pedicures in Thailand. Maybe I was unlucky but they seem to favor cosmetics over health and the way they were cut on the side on the big toes definitely caused the problem. Edited August 9, 2019 by Jingthing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issannative Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 You are left with no nail but also no more pain. Upto you I guess what is more important to you nails or pain free feet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Issannative said: You are left with no nail but also no more pain. Upto you I guess what is more important to you nails or pain free feet So sandals are out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issannative Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Haha no my mom just paints the space where there was a nail normal unless you go down grovel as you have to to some ppl here you might notice but otherwise no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokenbone Posted August 9, 2019 Author Share Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Jingthing said: So sandals are out? alright, i bought dental floss, should i just wind it back and forth layer upon layer until suitable thickness and then saw it in ? do i take a scissor and cut off on the sides and then just hope the stuff stays there ? Edited August 9, 2019 by brokenbone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, brokenbone said: alright, i bought dental floss, should i just wind it back and forth layer upon layer until suitable thickness and then saw it in ? I don't know how to use floss for this. I know I didn't use floss. Maybe someone else can advise. Also you need to keep things clean, change whatever thing you're using often, and watch for infection. Edited August 9, 2019 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issannative Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 It's true if ppl have to grovel to you frequently then that maybe a problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issannative Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Really just take em off its not a big deal look into it will save you soo much trouble and pain going forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokenbone Posted August 9, 2019 Author Share Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Jingthing said: I don't know how to use floss for this. I know I didn't use floss. Maybe someone else can advise. Also you need to keep things clean, change whatever thing you're using often, and watch for infection. can you specify how many times a day and how many month to end this shit ? also i found straight clipper on aliexpress, i hope Edited August 9, 2019 by brokenbone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) Well my toenails aren't pretty because I keep them longer than most people so I have noticed people, especially Thais, are always staring down at my toes when I'm riding the baht buses. Maybe some are looking for a pedicure gig. In any case, it makes me feel like smacking them. I don't even know their names and they're inspecting a gross personal body part. Buy me a drink first! Stare into your PHONE like a normal person! Edited August 9, 2019 by Jingthing 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Just now, Issannative said: Really just take em off its not a big deal look into it will save you soo much trouble and pain going forward Why not explore a less radical option? I don't have pain now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issannative Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 I gave the best advice I can it's up to you to take it or not good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokenbone Posted August 9, 2019 Author Share Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Well my toenails aren't pretty because I keep them longer than most people so I have noticed people, especially Thais, are always staring down at my toes when I'm riding the baht buses. Maybe some are looking for a pedicure gig. In any case, it makes me feel like smacking them. I don't even know their names and they're inspecting a gross personal body part. Buy me a drink first! Stare into your PHONE like a normal person! ahem.. a friend of mine kept talking about the feet of the gogo girls for so many times and for so long time so now i have this warped habit myself when-ever i see a girl, any girl, any where Edited August 9, 2019 by brokenbone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, brokenbone said: can you specify how many times a day and how many month to end this shit ? also i found straight clipper on aliexpress, i hope It's been a really long time but things get wet in the shower, so do the math. As I said I'm not even sure I used cotton. It might have been rolled up index cards. The idea is to find something sturdy that does the job. You're going to need to change whatever it is often and I really do recommend the foot soaking too. I guess it took at least two months before I was pretty confident that the method was really working. You're basically retraining the nails to grow differently. I don't remember when I stopped putting in the material either. I don't think it was that much longer than realizing it was working. Edited August 9, 2019 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokenbone Posted August 9, 2019 Author Share Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Jingthing said: It's been a really long time but things get wet in the shower, so do the math. As I said I'm not even sure I used cotton. It might have been rolled up index cards. The idea is to find something sturdy that does the job. You're going to need to change whatever it is often and I really do recommend the foot soaking too. I guess it took at least two months before I was pretty confident that the method was really working. You're basically retraining the nails to grow differently. I don't remember when I stopped putting in the material either. I don't think it was that much longer than realizing it was working. alright, but i tried the foot bath and recognized i am not cut for that. i can do the shoving up stuff, for as long as it isnt 5+ times a day. thanks for specifying the time, when i tried i didnt last over 5 days. this dental floss seem to work nicely, easy to get in, no pain, and it hasnt been squeezed out yet at least Edited August 9, 2019 by brokenbone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) Sheryl can confirm this but I assume if do go to a Thai doctor they won't offer anything except nail removal. So I think these are your two options. Removal or self treatment. I don't know what you have to lose by self treatment. If it doesn't work, then get them removed. Of course watch for infections as the nails growing up can open in the skin, so that's a risk. Edited August 9, 2019 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Just now, brokenbone said: alright, but i tried the foot bath and recognized i am not cut for that. i can do the shoving up stuff, for as long as it isnt 5+ times a day I'm sure I didn't change it that often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokenbone Posted August 9, 2019 Author Share Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) i should mention this: i need to use a plyer and squeeze the nail straight before i shove in the fluss. unfortunately the nail is too short on one side each of both toes so i'm going to have to wait to treat them until the nail there is long enough Edited August 9, 2019 by brokenbone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 i should mention this: i need to use a plyer and squeeze the nail straight before i shove in the fluss. unfortunately the nail is too short on one side each of both toes so i'm going to have to wait to treat them until the nail there is long enoughInteresting. In any case I would start the training even when short. That's the idea to get things growing out better. Sent from my Lenovo A7020a48 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokenbone Posted August 9, 2019 Author Share Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Interesting. In any case I would start the training even when short. That's the idea to get things growing out better. Sent from my Lenovo A7020a48 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app i can not gain any momentum when its this short, i cant get started squeezing/sawing in anything, not a single mm Edited August 9, 2019 by brokenbone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outbackoz Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Normally in Oz the podiatrist will inject the toe to kill the edge of the nail so it grows straight on the nail plate. I was browsing through Lazada the other day and there were numerous solutions offered for sale. But not sure how successful they would be. https://www.lazada.co.th/catalog/?q=Ingrown+toenail&_keyori=ss&from=input&spm=a2o4m.product-not-exist-m.search.go.34db268docxvqk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Christmas13 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 13 minutes ago, Outbackoz said: Normally in Oz the podiatrist will inject the toe to kill the edge of the nail so it grows straight on the nail plate. I was browsing through Lazada the other day and there were numerous solutions offered for sale. But not sure how successful they would be. https://www.lazada.co.th/catalog/?q=Ingrown+toenail&_keyori=ss&from=input&spm=a2o4m.product-not-exist-m.search.go.34db268docxvqk Yes I had mine done the same method it lasted for a couple of years but now it is growing back in again but since it does not cost me anything I just go back and get it done again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokenbone Posted August 9, 2019 Author Share Posted August 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, White Christmas13 said: Yes I had mine done the same method it lasted for a couple of years but now it is growing back in again but since it does not cost me anything I just go back and get it done again i read if you cut it a v shape, that is, 180 degree reverse to the usual shape we cut them, it supports a straight growing nail. the recommendation is a small v in the middle, as deep as you can without getting into flesh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 i read if you cut it a v shape, that is, 180 degree reverse to the usual shape we cut them, it supports a straight growing nail. the recommendation is a small v in the middle, as deep as you can without getting into fleshMyth. Sent from my Lenovo A7020a48 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issannative Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Haha I notice all the remidies involve pain or repeat actions just take them off be done with it I don't understand when there is a complete solution to your problem you won't do itSent from my LDN-LX2 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokenbone Posted August 9, 2019 Author Share Posted August 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Myth. Sent from my Lenovo A7020a48 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app it makes sense to me, given the forces at play. imagine you would split the nail in half all the way down to the root, now there are no force that would want to bend the nail acting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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