stevenl Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 35 minutes ago, possum1931 said: There are no laws in Thailand as such, the law is what a policeman interpretates at the time. The only real law on Thailands roads is genuine common sense, and if you don't have that, then you may not survive. I think we all know that common sense is in short supply amongst Thais especially where road behaviour is concerned. There are laws, and the cameras are set to the laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 18 minutes ago, stevenl said: There are laws, and the cameras are set to the laws. Really! I would say he cameras are set to make money for the police tea money fund. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, possum1931 said: Really! I would say he cameras are set to make money for the police tea money fund. Of course you would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theonetrueaussie Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 21 hours ago, Vacuum said: Looking at the photo, all the oncoming traffic had already stopped before you entered the lights. Pay your fines and be prepared to stop at the yellow next time. also be prepare for a mass pileup when all those thai vehicles who obey the 30cm rule instead of the 3 second rule smashing into the back of you ???????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedhump Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 21 hours ago, Vacuum said: Looking at the photo, all the oncoming traffic had already stopped before you entered the lights. Pay your fines and be prepared to stop at the yellow next No. Lights here usually only allow one direction at a time. So the other light is probably about to change from red to green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 2 hours ago, alien365 said: How do you know they weren't on red? A lot of traffic lights operate one direction and right turns. With the queue in the opposite direction it looks like it could be the case here. I don't, and you could be right. Anyway, it looks as he was very late entering the intersection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 hour ago, transam said: You know how fast or slow he was going then....? Don't know about his speed, but I'll bet he floored it when he saw the lights turn yellow.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Vacuum said: Don't know about his speed, but I'll bet he floored it when he saw the lights turned yellow.... Well I usually doooo.....???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimn Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 I dont know where you got the ticket seems a bit unfair but yellow means stop. Not that any Thais stop at red. In Pattaya at most of the lights at junctions leading on to the Sukumvidt, the lights only change up to 5 seconds after they go red on the Sukumvidt. This allows all the red light jumpers to clear through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ54 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 This was.from 2012 Land Traffic Act Section 22 (1000B) [Meaning of traffic light: Green: the driver may drive the vehicle throughYellow: the driver shall prepare to stop the vehicle behind the stop line. If the driver has passed the stop line when the traffic light turns yellow, he may go through. Red: the driver shall stop the vehicle behind the stop line. Green Arrow: the driver shall drive according to the direction of the green arrow, but shall be careful to give way to crossing pedestrians or other vehicles. Blinking Red: the driver shall stop at the stop line and, when it is seen safe, may proceed with care. Blinking Yellow: the driver shall reduce the speed of the vehicle and proceed through the roadway carefully.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigz Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Just pay the fine. Don't do it again, don't be a penny focker and don't waste your and others time unless you're really bored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokenbone Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 9 hours ago, oobar said: I got a 500 baht ticket for getting caught halfway through on a yellow light. The picture showed only yellow, no red, and stated the fine was for yellow. So yellow apparently means no go. Paid the fine and learned a new lesson about Thai traffic laws. no, you just learned how that specific corrupt police interpret the law, in lack of knowledge or on purpose to make a buck on you. no way could this be law that if the light all of a sudden turns yellow, its a no go, its not possible to come from 90 km/h to full stop in less then a dm, which is what this law demand. it was always up to the driver to make the call on the yellow caution light. only the red is a no go, you must not cross the line once red is on, you already got the warning yellow light alerting you, theres no excuse or pardon for red light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAS21 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Sorry I haven't read all nine pages but at crossroads ... It is not illegal to go through an orange light BUT if you don't get through the lights on the other side of the crossroads before those lights change to red you are illegal ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oobar Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 hour ago, brokenbone said: 10 hours ago, oobar said: I got a 500 baht ticket for getting caught halfway through on a yellow light. The picture showed only yellow, no red, and stated the fine was for yellow. So yellow apparently means no go. Paid the fine and learned a new lesson about Thai traffic laws. no, you just learned how that specific corrupt police interpret the law, in lack of knowledge or on purpose to make a buck on you. no way could this be law that if the light all of a sudden turns yellow, its a no go, its not possible to come from 90 km/h to full stop in less then a dm, which is what this law demand. it was always up to the driver to make the call on the yellow caution light. only the red is a no go, you must not cross the line once red is on, you already got the warning yellow light alerting you, theres no excuse or pardon for red light Correct. Everything you say is old knowledge for me, as I am well into my fourth decade of living in Thailand. However, the automated yellow light flimflam was a new twist, one I can now add to the multi-page list of other LOS scams I usually avoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timewilltell Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 You really want all the hassle o argue a marginal case for 500 baht. I don5 think it’s worth your time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokenbone Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 6 hours ago, JAS21 said: Sorry I haven't read all nine pages but at crossroads ... It is not illegal to go through an orange light BUT if you don't get through the lights on the other side of the crossroads before those lights change to red you are illegal ... no, the other side got nothing to do with it, the yellow light is an alert that it will soon flip to no go crossing the line when red comes on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 On 8/16/2019 at 3:22 PM, HLover said: Invest in copious amounts of pain medicine to assist with your 'principle war' of futility. You may want to retake your eye color test, unless yellow is the new orange. What a mess. On doing the reaction/colour test for my license, i used the Thai language for the colors, orange NO, yellow NO The examiner then said AMBER to which i have not seen a thai translation yet. DOH ! just pay the fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike787 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Red, orange, or green...it doesn't matter in Thailand....nobody cares as long as we maintain the highest road kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 5 hours ago, brokenbone said: no, the other side got nothing to do with it, the yellow light is an alert that it will soon flip to no go crossing the line when red comes on No, it is not. The yellow light means stop, unless unsafe to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaiLai Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 No, it is not. The yellow light means stop, unless unsafe to do so.It means be ready to stop, it’s a warning before red.If it went straight from green to red you’d have people screeching to a halt.Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HLover Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 18 minutes ago, JaiLai said: It means be ready to stop, it’s a warning before red. If it went straight from green to red you’d have people screeching to a halt. Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Disagree.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eisfeld Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 hour ago, JaiLai said: It means be ready to stop, it’s a warning before red. If it went straight from green to red you’d have people screeching to a halt. The following sentence from the Act makes the waters a bit murky: Quote If the driver has passed the stop line when the traffic light turns yellow, he may go through. The question becomes if that means the opposite (crossing the stop line when the light turns yellow) is not allowed. 1. If that's the case then it would lead to situations where it's physically impossible to follow the law 2. If it's not the case then what is the point of the sentence? It would mean that it's also legal to cross the stop line after the light turned yellow So either way the wording of the law creates problems (surprise surprise) ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almer Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 minute ago, eisfeld said: The following sentence from the Act makes the waters a bit murky: The question becomes if that means the opposite (crossing the stop line when the light turns yellow) is not allowed. 1. If that's the case then it would lead to situations where it's physically impossible to follow the law 2. If it's not the case then what is the point of the sentence? It would mean that it's also legal to cross the stop line after the light turned yellow So either way the wording of the law creates problems (surprise surprise) ???? The amber/yellow light on the pole in the ground is to advise of an imminent change of direction, the problem with the , i can do as i wish attitude, is it is a quick trip to the future for somebody, in europe the sequence is the same but the common sense mode operates a lot better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokenbone Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 2 hours ago, eisfeld said: The following sentence from the Act makes the waters a bit murky: The question becomes if that means the opposite (crossing the stop line when the light turns yellow) is not allowed. 1. If that's the case then it would lead to situations where it's physically impossible to follow the law 2. If it's not the case then what is the point of the sentence? It would mean that it's also legal to cross the stop line after the light turned yellow So either way the wording of the law creates problems (surprise surprise) ???? my take on it: 1: the translation went to shit 2: the law maker lack ability to reflect over the ultimate outcome of what he just came up with, and the law has to be re-written to allow public the means to obey the law Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrasmussen Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 The yellow light means stop, unless unsafe to do so.Exactly! That is the only interpretation that makes any sense and is how it is applied in most (all?) other countries.Just because the Thai rules may be ambiguous (which unfortunately is not uncommon with English translations of Thai regulations), does not mean that common sense should not be used - and if in doubt, do as you where taught in driver's education in your home country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 48 minutes ago, nrasmussen said: Exactly! That is the only interpretation that makes any sense and is how it is applied in most (all?) other countries. Just because the Thai rules may be ambiguous (which unfortunately is not uncommon with English translations of Thai regulations), does not mean that common sense should not be used - and if in doubt, do as you where taught in driver's education in your home country. Scroll down to the forth light, see what it says.... https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/light-signals-controlling-traffic.html Now if the OP had a spurt on he would have been OK in the UK if his ride was over the line before it went red, these photos do not show that.... I was a professional driver for years, done millions of miles, been through thousands of amber's and never had a summons... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokenbone Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 " are so close to it that to pull up might cause an accident " this is the responsibility of the driver to make this call, i.e up 2 driver, the only hard code is that of red light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 4 hours ago, eisfeld said: The following sentence from the Act makes the waters a bit murky: The question becomes if that means the opposite (crossing the stop line when the light turns yellow) is not allowed. 1. If that's the case then it would lead to situations where it's physically impossible to follow the law 2. If it's not the case then what is the point of the sentence? It would mean that it's also legal to cross the stop line after the light turned yellow So either way the wording of the law creates problems (surprise surprise) ???? No, that is not the question. Crossing the stop line when the light turns yellow is not allowed, unless it would be unsafe to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
featography Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 The first picture shows you well enough back to be able to stop assuming you are doing the speed limit or less. 2nd pictures only shows you in the middle of the intersection. The 2 pictures are proof enough you could have stopped in time. Is it illegal to go thru an intersection on a yellow light? If you make it thru before the light turns red, you most likely would be left along, although my understanding is it is illegal, UNLESS you have an accident and there is a video showing the accident happened in that yellow light, then you are at fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrasmussen Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 There is actually one thing I like about driving in Thailand and that is the countdown timers used at some traffic lights. They make it very easy to begin slowing down early in order to stop safely for yellow - especially when someone is tailgating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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