Red stamp with 1 prevoius setv in passport-vientaine?

[sanook 1]

Anyone hot the red stamp(bluemark) with a clean new passport with only 1 previous setv(not from vte..from europe). Looking at the chances or if anybody experienced this(with only 1 previous setv in passport from homecountry). Thanks! 

Edited August 27, 2019 by sanook 1

[Caldera]

I'm not even sure if they currently "red stamp" passports at all. From recent reports, they seem to reject an application outright if they think you've already had too many tourist visa.

[sanook 1]

2 hours ago, Caldera said:

I'm not even sure if they currently "red stamp" passports at all. From recent reports, they seem to reject an application outright if they think you've already had too many tourist visa.

Thanks, and i guess they only review your setv/s/history in the current passport? 

Edited August 27, 2019 by sanook 1

[PatOngo]

6 minutes ago, sanook 1 said:

Thanks, and i guess they only review your setv/s/history in the current passport? 

I think they review your history in their computer records.

[acenase]

Nope they do a visual check.  Anyone who goes with a clean passport will get a visa.  The only people who got denied was after they counted the number of Visas in the passport.

[sanook 1]

50 minutes ago, acenase said:

Nope they do a visual check.  Anyone who goes with a clean passport will get a visa.  The only people who got denied was after they counted the number of Visas in the passport.

My thought also.

[OffshoreMig]

Depends on how many trips you have had on you previous passport,  You old passport would be linked to your new passport (Name, country and date of birth) They go off the computer.  New system introduced with cameras  and finger print scan.

[BritTim]

3 hours ago, OffshoreMig said:

Depends on how many trips you have had on you previous passport,  You old passport would be linked to your new passport (Name, country and date of birth) They go off the computer.  New system introduced with cameras  and finger print scan.

It is important to appreciate that Immigration's system (which has a complete record of your visits to Thailand) and the systems used by Thai consulates are not directly linked. Those who profess inside knowledge say that a project to connect the two ministries' systems is under development, but consulates today cannot see a complete record of your visas in old passports.

[visarunner]

many people apply a new passport in Bangkok hence the Embassy/Consulate can see the transfer stamp from the Immigration and will ask for the old passport. If you get a new passport from home country than the Embassy/Consulate can not see your history, but Immigration can. 

 

[acenase]

This is why it is recommended not to enter through any airports both DMK and Suvarnabhumi.  There are no reports of anyone being denied entry at Land Borders at this time.

[Caldera]

5 hours ago, FredGallaher said:

Don't you think that it only a matter of time that land boarders will also have computers to check? Might be OK today but tomorrow might change.

They have computers, and have had for a long time. They just apply the rules differently or have other priorities.

[BritTim]

5 hours ago, FredGallaher said:

Exactly. That's why tourists with visas are sometimes denied at immigration even with a legit visa from a consulate in their passport. Immigration can see how long you have spent here and is denying those for staying too long. Some posters here have shared there frustration about inexact or lack of clear rules, but the IO has discretion.   

More accurately, immigration officials at some entry points are being allowed discretion which they are not supposed to have according to Thailand's Immigration Act. In practical terms, it does not matter what the law stipulates if a decision has been made not to enforce it. Thus, you are correct. At some entry points (so far not all) immigration officials have the power to create and enforce their own rules.

[BritTim]

5 hours ago, acenase said:

This is why it is recommended not to enter through any airports both DMK and Suvarnabhumi.  There are no reports of anyone being denied entry at Land Borders at this time.

Be careful! Actually, Poipet is notorious for denying entry, and trying to convince you to fly into Bangkok where you might get bounced back to home country. At Padang Besar, immigration does seem to follow the official rules, but applies them very strictly. Most land crossings are, indeed, fine.

[Max69xl]

22 hours ago, BritTim said:

It is important to appreciate that Immigration's system (which has a complete record of your visits to Thailand) and the systems used by Thai consulates are not directly linked. Those who profess inside knowledge say that a project to connect the two ministries' systems is under development, but consulates today cannot see a complete record of your visas in old passports.

Consulates/embassies can not see the complete record (yet) but Immigration at the airports can. 

[Max69xl]

On 8/27/2019 at 2:54 PM, acenase said:

Nope they do a visual check.  Anyone who goes with a clean passport will get a visa.  The only people who got denied was after they counted the number of Visas in the passport.

Embassies/consulates don't have same access as Immigration. If immigration at the airports want they can see your old passport,too. And they can deny entry even if you have a clean passport. Having a visa is not a guarantee to enter Thailand.