The Pattaya Vlogger issue .... and remedies.

[Songkran18]

For starters, I don't frequent here much. I initially did when I started to research the opportunity I had to travel to Thailand for one whole month. I'm grateful I got good intel from some members on this site. If this opportunity came to me thirty years ago, my only reliance for information would be travel guides, magazines, Encyclopedia Britannica and word of mouth.   If we fast foward to today, we have this method we can ask here in this space: Who bakes best pizza pie in Pattaya. That's  going to generate current feedback from boots on the ground -  you guys !  And we all know how you love to offer opinions. We all do, and it's better than outdated printed material from back in the day.

 

Here at Thai Visa, it's now an ancient concept of message boarding - but useful. I'm still a fan of this communicative mean. 

 

When prepping for my first trip, utilizing YouTube was probably my biggest aid. It amped the game to a visual level. It helped me change a starter in a 07 Honda Element. It also helped me immensely in preparing for my first visit to Thailand. Just as you guys individually contribute to the cyber information stream, so do some 'Vloggers."  I used them again to prep for my second trip to Thailand, completed this past June. I benefited from great Vloggers out there, and noticed proletariat types marring the whole scheme. It happens in forums as well, as none here doubt.  

 

So what's the problem ? 

 

Vlogging is a level beyond the use of the keyboard. It's also in the possession of the most cretin of mankind, with a smart phone. Some graduate and obtain expensive gadgets. 

 

Pattaya with no doubt is extraordinary destination. I've now been there twice. Not for me, but easy bead and butter for the most decrepit manner of vlogging. These are mostly 30-40 yr types promoting a lifestyle and manhood not obtainable back home ... and post it on YouTube. The biggest issue is disrespecting the locals, at the glee of their immature viewers and monetary sponsors. 

 

Based on commentary on this site, you blokes hate vloggers. Now is the time to really do something about it. Comment to the management of you're favorite bar to not welcome these types. Help ban anyone who sets up a tripod at your bar. He's not a customer... he's setting up shop to live stream and beg for money. Anytime you see a guy with a gimbal and excessive use of gadgetry - get in there face and make them uncomfortable. In this manner you're defending the dignity of locals and being a good farang.  if any here reading this has good organizational skills and local contacts, please help rid these <deleted>. 

 

Many know about Chuck Wow and his viral <deleted> beating. He's only the tip of the iceberg.  Look into "Pattaya Street Cruiser", "BjornTV,"  "Steff's Thailand Travel" and "Barfines and Powerlines.' These people <deleted> where you live and only a representative few.

 

Instead of complaining  about a generic vlogger, help make these real <deleted> unwelcome. Get in their face when they set up their gear in the bar .... swipe a camera that has you in cross hairs... get in their face, and educate management at your fav bar develop policy against this intrusion. 

 

Be what it may, and for gals venture to Pattaya. They are not zoo animals to be targeted by a zoom lens, or silly exhibitions of frail men trying to prove otherwise. Gupta already has ....    It's time to expose the pricks/Vloggers behind the camera. 

 

I'm just opining with the hope people wake up and fight to protect their privacy, and that of others. Being that Pattaya is an easy target, I also hope those with skills, can organize with locals and rid this sickness. 

 

 

 

[champers]

Not watching them would be another; and non-confrontational; way of seeing the back of them. You seem to watch them a lot. Stop.

[Songkran18]

2 minutes ago, champers said:

Not watching them would be another; and non-confrontational; way of seeing the back of them. You seem to watch them a lot. Stop.

Champers: I'm studious and a observer. I prefer Greg, Barrow and Evo's podcasts from Bangkok, and I watch lakorn. Those are options I can turn off.  This motley bunch needs to be confronted for the sake of the embedded thaivisa rats. 

[IvorLott]

There are some reasonable, informative 'vlogs' out there, but the tedious likes of 'Cheap Charlie' and the like, bumbling their way around Thailand's red light areas 'on a budget' are pretty grim viewing.

I thought this 'digital nomad' thing was meant to be 'living the dream' stuff, but they all seem to have pretty grim lives with little or no regular income, dreadful living conditions, very shaky visa/immigration status, and little or no knowledge of the country they are in other than the best bars for cheap drinks.

If anyone relied on these types for genuine, useful 'information' about Thailand other than where to find the cheapest happy hour, best 99B breakfast, best place for a cheap big Leo etc. They'd soon find themselves in schtuck. 

[thaitero]

How one can tell if someone with mobiles, tripods etc is vlogger or just holidaymaker filming his/her holiday..?

This is a battle you can not win.. Besides cameras and related gadgets are going to be more powerful and smaller and smaller so very soon you do not even see if someone is livestreaming or filming..

 

Just behave yourself in public is the best policy here..

[Songkran18]

8 minutes ago, IvorLott said:

There are some reasonable, informative 'vlogs' out there, but the tedious likes of 'Cheap Charlie' and the like, bumbling their way around Thailand's red light areas 'on a budget' are pretty grim viewing.

I thought this 'digital nomad' thing was meant to be 'living the dream' stuff, but they all seem to have pretty grim lives with little or no regular income, dreadful living conditions, very shaky visa/immigration status, and little or no knowledge of the country they are in other than the best bars for cheap drinks.

If anyone relied on these types for genuine, useful 'information' about Thailand other than where to find the cheapest happy hour, best 99B breakfast, best place for a cheap big Leo etc. They'd soon find themselves in schtuck. 

Thanks for your input. 

 

A digital nomad is not the same as a blogger, nor is radiologist in Mumbai reading an off hour x-ray  with a patient in Miami. In most cases, they obey visa protocol and are as productive in Kathmandu,  

 

You can gloat about about a constant 99B breakfast., yet Algebra is another tale. 

 

I'm supposing it's survival mode in Pattaya for most. No energy to kick the <deleted> out  the other loser bracket - " Pattaya Vloggers." 

[IvorLott]

4 minutes ago, Songkran18 said:

Thanks for your input. 

 

A digital nomad is not the same as a blogger, nor is radiologist in Mumbai reading an off hour x-ray  with a patient in Miami. In most cases, they obey visa protocol and are as productive in Kathmandu,  

 

You can gloat about about a constant 99B breakfast., yet Algebra is another tale. 

 

I'm supposing it's survival mode in Pattaya for most. No energy to kick the <deleted> out  the other loser bracket - " Pattaya Vloggers." 

 

I'm not quite with you here old bean....

[NCC1701A]

1 hour ago, Songkran18 said:

They are not zoo animals to be targeted by a zoom lens, or silly exhibitions of frail men trying to prove otherwise.

most of the girls I know when they see my camera come out go into porn star mode and say "make sure you send video to me!"

 

i guess that is not the same as YouTube.

[Buc Ham Noi]

I agree wholeheartedly with the original post.  Many times I have had to approach one these vlogging e-beggars asking them not to film me or whoever I am with.  Fortunately there is a growing number of expats who are now highlighting the worst of these vloggers and the damage they are doing. One such YT channel is Creepy Chuck Wow Chronicles named after the vlogger featured on ThaiVisa.  Chuck Wow certainly got what was coming to him as many people here have stated. Sticking a cmara in someone`s face is incredibly rude and will lead to further confrontations.  I applaud anyone taking a stand against these e- beggars.

[emptypockets]

Whether they make money or not doesn't bother me. I do not want someone filming me and, my ahem, companion without my express knowledge and permission.