30 Extention On Expired Visa

[fhickson]

My final entry on my METV will need to be extended another 30 days after the visa validity has expired. Is this possible or will the extention be refused?

[fishtank]

The Visa validity is irrelevant .

It is your permision to stay that is important.

Apply before that runs out.

[fhickson]

28 minutes ago, fishtank said:

The Visa validity is irrelevant .

It is your permision to stay that is important.

Apply before that runs out.

i think 30 day extentions are still pretty standard, just unsure how the visa validity date effects this. the final last entry was done before the visa expired.

 

my flight home flies out of thailand, so i need that last 30 days, but i could change the flight out to earlier if i really had to.

 

Edited December 18, 2019 by fhickson

[steve187]

9 minutes ago, fhickson said:

i think 30 day extentions are still pretty standard, just unsure how the visa validity date effects this. the final last entry was done before the visa expired.

 

my flight home flies out of thailand, so i need that last 30 days, but i could change the flight out to earlier if i really had to.

 

as long as your permission to stay date has not expired then your ok for a 30 day extension

[jacko45k]

A single 30 day extension on a Tourist Visa permission to Stay (which is 60 days in itself) is permitted. The fact it is beyond the life of the original visa is not a factor. 

[fhickson]

2 hours ago, jacko45k said:

A single 30 day extension on a Tourist Visa permission to Stay (which is 60 days in itself) is permitted. The fact it is beyond the life of the original visa is not a factor. 

thanks jack.

 

im just going to vacate early. the plane change fee is only $100.

 

its not worth traveling to mae sai again to hop for another entry and then extending just to get another month or so over my current permission.

 

i forgot to watch the visa validity date and hopped in early from cambodia. so theres the lesson, mark the date in your calendar!

 

door hits me in <deleted> on way out ????

[eppic]

Thought I'd try a related question here rather than starting a new thread.

 

We are on an extension of stay (retirement) that expires on Feb 10.  We expect to do some traveling before then, so if we return, say early Feb, would we need to depart again by the 10th to avoid overstay? Or would we get 30 day visa waiver instead? 

 

We are leaving Thailand for the Philippines but will need to make some trips here to tie up some relocation loose ends.

 

So what happens when you enter just before expiry of extension of stay? (will start separate thread if necessary)

 

If a trip to the CW immigration hellhole is required, we will NOT do that, but just make sure to return after Feb 10th and enter on visa waiver.

 

Anybody?

Edited December 19, 2019 by eppic

[fhickson]

1 hour ago, eppic said:

Thought I'd try a related question here rather than starting a new thread.

 

We are on an extension of stay (retirement) that expires on Feb 10.  We expect to do some traveling before then, so if we return, say early Feb, would we need to depart again by the 10th to avoid overstay? Or would we get 30 day visa waiver instead? 

 

We are leaving Thailand for the Philippines but will need to make some trips here to tie up some relocation loose ends.

 

So what happens when you enter just before expiry of extension of stay? (will start separate thread if necessary)

 

If a trip to the CW immigration hellhole is required, we will NOT do that, but just make sure to return after Feb 10th and enter on visa waiver.

 

Anybody?

some people say you can ask the immigration officer at the airport to give a 30 day waiver if you are eligible, over any other visas or extentions you have in your passport. thus they would just stamp in a 30 day and leave the rest untouched.

 

that was a long time ago though, not sure how it would work now. never heard of it being offered as an option by the officer. i have never had the balls to ask as they always seem really rushed and the whole thing is stressful. they would likely just go for the visa entry or current extension of stay if you said nothing.

 

so the answer could be ask them nicely  at the counter if you can just get a 30 day exemption this time instead, ask before they stamp anything.

Edited December 19, 2019 by fhickson

[Peter Denis]

1 hour ago, eppic said:

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We are on an extension of stay (retirement) that expires on Feb 10.  We expect to do some traveling before then, so if we return, say early Feb, would we need to depart again by the 10th to avoid overstay? Or would we get 30 day visa waiver instead?

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When you are on extension of stay of a Non Imm Visa, and you exit Thailand without a re-entry permit your permission to stay will be voided.  And when returning without a Visa, you will be stamped in Visa exempt.

Note: If you DO have a re-entry permit that would keep your present permission to stay alive.  Since you do not want that, you could visit an IO and request to have that re-entry permit voided. 

[eppic]

We have multiple re-entry permit (and extreme aversion to Chaengwattana) so it sounds like the sensible thing would be to exit before extension expires and return after for 30-day waivers.  I am also not willing for status to be determined by the officer's whim at the airport, since we need to make follow-on travel plans in advance.  

 

Not ideal, but at least I can plan accordingly, thanks.

[Peter Denis]

11 hours ago, eppic said:

We have multiple re-entry permit (and extreme aversion to Chaengwattana) so it sounds like the sensible thing would be to exit before extension expires and return after for 30-day waivers. 

You can get the multiple re-entry permit voided at any other IO if you are averse of visiting CW.

Not sure, but it might even be possible at the Re-Entry permit desk of Suvarnabhumi or DMK just before leaving the country.

Would the re-entry permit be voided if you do it yourself by putting a big cross over it?  If so, that would even save you a trip to an IO.

@ubonjoe> is that possible?

 

[ubonjoe]

12 hours ago, eppic said:

We have multiple re-entry permit (and extreme aversion to Chaengwattana) so it sounds like the sensible thing would be to exit before extension expires and return after for 30-day waivers.  I am also not willing for status to be determined by the officer's whim at the airport, since we need to make follow-on travel plans in advance.  

Not ideal, but at least I can plan accordingly, thanks.

You should be able to get a 30 day visa exempt entry instead of the 10 days allowed by your re-entry permits.

Leave the visa line on the TM6 blank. That might be enough if the officer does not notice the re-entry permit. Or they may ask which one you want to use. Normally they will do the visa exempt entry if the re-entry permit allows a shorter stay than the visa exempt entry.

[Peter Denis]

9 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

You should be able to get a 30 day visa exempt entry instead of the 10 days allowed by your re-entry permits.

Leave the visa line on the TM6 blank. That might be enough if the officer does not notice the re-entry permit. Or they may ask which one you want to use. Normally they will do the visa exempt entry if the re-entry permit allows a shorter stay than the visa exempt entry.

Hi @ubonjoe,

From your response I understand that it is actually not necessary to have your re-entry permit voided, when it has less days left than what you would get when entering Thailand Visa exempt.

But is it possible to visit a local IO and request there to void your re-entry permit?

Or can you do it yourself by simply putting a cross over it?

[ubonjoe]

53 minutes ago, Peter Denis said:

From your response I understand that it is actually not necessary to have your re-entry permit voided, when it has less days left than what you would get when entering Thailand Visa exempt.

I am aware of cases where the officer asked if they wanted to use the re-entry permit or get a visa exempt entry when a person had less than 30s days remaining of the re-entry permit.

 

53 minutes ago, Peter Denis said:

But is it possible to visit a local IO and request there to void your re-entry permit?

Or can you do it yourself by simply putting a cross over it?

I am not aware of anybody being able to have re-entry permit canceled.

You cannot do it yourself.

[jacko45k]

13 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

I am aware of cases where the officer asked if they wanted to use the re-entry permit or get a visa exempt entry when a person had less than 30s days remaining of the re-entry permit.

Would the latter not effectively end the Extension? 

[ubonjoe]

19 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Would the latter not effectively end the Extension? 

Of course it would. But that is what the member that posted in #7 wanted to do.

If a person wanted to keep the extension valid they would ask that the re-entry permit be used.

[eppic]

On 12/20/2019 at 9:22 AM, ubonjoe said:

You should be able to get a 30 day visa exempt entry instead of the 10 days allowed by your re-entry permits.

Leave the visa line on the TM6 blank. That might be enough if the officer does not notice the re-entry permit. Or they may ask which one you want to use. Normally they will do the visa exempt entry if the re-entry permit allows a shorter stay than the visa exempt entry.

I just wanted to circle back just in case anyone else is leaving Thailand and has the same question. 

 

Bottom line, we put or trust in ubonjoe  and he was proved correct (hasn't steered me wrong yet).  We arrived on Feb 2nd with extensions expiring on Feb 10th.  We left the visa lines blank, the officer asked some incoherent questions (wearing a mask) and we were subsequently whisked off to to one of the tables for those in need of special processing (fines, etc.) where another officer voided our visas/REPs, gave us 30-day stamps, and escorted us through the immigration booths. Voila!  Done and done, so we are set for 30 days and I would assume we can just get a 30-day extension if we need a bit of extra time (to sell car and wrap up other issues before relocating).  Thanks to ubonjoe and others that replied.