Brexit trade deal clash: UK and EU spar over rules

[tebee]

9 minutes ago, vogie said:

I personally wouldn't describe democracy as totalitarianism, let's not forget, nor should we that Boris was more popular with the British public than any other leader of any other political party and his popularity grows by every day he is in office.

The problem is democracy is a delicate child - subtle changes can erode it easily. Things like voter ID and boundary changes  can be used to give one side an advantage. Removals of the checks and balances that are part of the democratic process can easily allow totalitarianism to flourish if left unchecked.  

 

Remember Hitler was democratically elected too  with massive support.  

[vogie]

6 minutes ago, tebee said:

The problem is democracy is a delicate child - subtle changes can erode it easily. Things like voter ID and boundary changes  can be used to give one side an advantage. Removals of the checks and balances that are part of the democratic process can easily allow totalitarianism to flourish if left unchecked.  

 

Remember Hitler was democratically elected too  with massive support.  

Even bringing down the voting age to 16, nobody below 30 should allowed to vote, that is close to an age when they can work out for themselves without the guidance of left wing teachers.????

 

In all fairness Hitler committed a lot of murders to get democratically elected, our Boris is not that bad.

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, bristolboy said:

Really, so your opinion is that Brexit will be economically harmful to the UK?

Also harmful to the UK, yes, especially short-term. Never said otherwise. Have I?

 

 

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, tebee said:

That sounds low to me  Round this  bit of rural France the bedsits seem to go from 170-250 a month. "Coincidentally" 250 is the max government rent support you'll get as a single person.   I've just let a small 2 bed house in a small town to a Romainian family for 350  per month - but we only paid 19,000 for it in the first place so it's a decent rate of return, unlike the 5 bed house my wife rents out in the BKK suburbs which is valued at 5 million baht, but only produces the equivalent of 400 euros per month. 

 

For the 3 flats I've just done I'm hoping to get 250 and 300 for the two 2 bed ones and 180 for the studio  - I prefer to offer slightly lower rents than normal and have tenants that don't want to move

 Tebee, you're a tycoon. Well done!  

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, tebee said:

But have you noticed how Boris is now trying to rebrand "no deal" as the "Australian deal" - hint Australia does not have a traded deal with the EU..

No, not really. He seems to favour an EU/Canada (+?) trade deal but I think the Australian reference was more to do with immigration (points based system).

[vogie]

6 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 Tebee, you're a tycoon. Well done!  

When you say tebee is a typhoon, do you mean he is full of wind.

[nauseus]

1 minute ago, vogie said:

When you say tebee is a typhoon, do you mean he is full of wind.

I was being nice (for a change). 

[nauseus]

37 minutes ago, vogie said:

Even bringing down the voting age to 16, nobody below 30 should allowed to vote, that is close to an age when they can work out for themselves without the guidance of left wing teachers.????

 

In all fairness Hitler committed a lot of murders to get democratically elected, our Boris is not that bad.

No not that bad. 

[izod10]

Easy to see how the negotiations play out, hopefully none from Boris.  French blockade roads,stop UK traffic,French police do nothing as expected , UK saying  no fishing in UK waters..... will play heavy on EU minds,Boris just say no no no,just let the rioting in western EU countries proceed ,any work connected to fishing ceases

 

   UK has trump card here Eire,blockade them off too,Eire has the power to bankrupt the EU with their demands and support,will eventually bankrupt the IMF too

 

  What a  dream hand Boris has  ,finish the EU off????

[talahtnut]

15 minutes ago, izod10 said:

Easy to see how the negotiations play out, hopefully none from Boris.  French blockade roads,stop UK traffic,French police do nothing as expected , UK saying  no fishing in UK waters..... will play heavy on EU minds,Boris just say no no no,just let the rioting in western EU countries proceed ,any work connected to fishing ceases

 

   UK has trump card here Eire,blockade them off too,Eire has the power to bankrupt the EU with their demands and support,will eventually bankrupt the IMF too

 

  What a  dream hand Boris has  ,finish the EU off????

Damn, thats almost an act of war with the EU,

which is also at war with itself.

Holy smoke, the EU belongs in an odditorium,

rather like the Ripleys, Believe it or not.

[tebee]

[izod10]

Of course,  the utter delights of having amongst others, the likes of Albania,Bosnia,Kosovo and yes not forgetting Turkey knocking on the door,the potential of unbridled wealth springs forth,what a wealth of new found talent awaits   Yes reverse the decision immediately

[talahtnut]

1 hour ago, tebee said:

Beware the domino effect. Your big boat is going down.

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[Jip99]

1 hour ago, tebee said:

 

Sadly, that is probably how you see things.

 

 

That big ship is not nearly as sea-worthy as you think..